BurpleBull

Care to explain?

You probably haven't gotten a response to your question because it's clear that you will disregard whatever is said that is in favor of Peterman. You and others are anti-Peterman. While those who support Peterman are still able to be Pro-McCarron and Allen.

I'm just not a big fan of players who have to 'get the message' before they commit to turning the corner.

I will say this, if Peterman's 49% regular season comp. percentage were attached to each post of yours for accuracy, it would be a fair indicator of your validity as a poster. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aKduBp70kJg Keep working on your half truths...only a percent away.

That's not me reaching. I didn't use words like "superb" or "magnificent" when describing Peterman's preseason performance, I simply pointed out why so many came away impressed with Peterman. He showed poise and that he could move the offense...that doesn't necessarily show when you present a 54% completion percentage as proof.

He did show good accuracy, not with every pass, but he did show accuracy that I feel can be built on. There's a difference between having good accuracy, posting 54% and 49% comp. percentages for various reasons and being an errant, erratic passer. Peterman's not an errant or erratic passer. He wasn't in college and in the pros you can really only point to one out of five games that he appeared in, if you wanted to make the argument that he is. He was praised for being accurate when throwing from a clean pocket, it's when he's been under duress early on that his numbers tended to dip, but with more acclimation to the pro game, I would expect more comfort operating within the pocket and better production.

But Tom Brady... I won't even go there. How about Marc Bulger in the 6th? A pick was actually used on Peterman, what about those who weren't even drafted that went on to have solid careers? Kurt Warner, Tony Romo,... Peterman has his shot.

It's not always about numbers. If Peterman builds on last season, the numbers are sure to follow. Peterman showed passing willingness that Taylor just didn't a lot of times, along with good accuracy. He can build on that.

I'm pretty sure as you witnessed Taylor's performance you were able to dismiss it and not view it as a reminder of previous struggles due to him finishing two full seasons as a starting QB. I was watching to see progression as a QB from the last season and a firm grasp of the new offense under Dennison from Taylor, although I'm certain you weren't.

I base Peterman's potential off of his college play and what he showed in his first action of pre-season and regular season play, and yes I'm aware of him throwing five interceptions. That's not empty.

I'm with you, I feel it's preseason football where everything becomes clearer and the big decision will be made, although I feel I read or heard somewhere that Daboll/McDermott will know who they're rolling with at some point during training camp. I think some are willing to discount all the other variables that they know go in to making a QB starter quality, if it means placing Allen in the driver seat, ready to take the wheel or not.

Good that you mention that... Peterman was sacked exactly once in 49 pass attempts during the regular season. Peterman was sacked four times in 79 pass attempts (54% comp.), to Tyrod Taylor's four in 29 pass attempts (48%) during last year's preseason. Taylor was the veteran, Peterman the rookie. Peterman showed he could lead an offense. Thank you for playing.

Okay. Ryan Leaf had talent, not saying Josh Allen is Ryan Leaf, but he had talent too. Just pointing out one's upside doesn't give credence to a claim like that.

Do you realize that Peterman as a rookie in preseason led the Bills on its only TD drive, prior to him being inserted into action with the first team offense against the Ravens? Tyrod Taylor couldn't generate a TD drive up to that point working with the 1st team and I believe he completed only 49% of his passes. Peterman threw a pretty TD pass in the Vikings game, and set the Bills up for points in both the Eagles and Lions finale. Your attempt to discredit Peterman is a very empty one, that doesn't tell the whole story.

This response doesn't answer the question. I asked what you've seen from Allen other than throwing the football very hard that allows you to say that showing that he's better than both Peterman and McCarron shouldn't be difficult a task? Arm strength and sound of football whizzing through the air aside, what have you even just heard from reports that leads you to believe that Allen showing that he's better than Peterman and McCarron "shouldn't be too difficult" even at this stage of his development? I'm just curious.

I'm not trying to be a prick, so don't take it that way, but what have you seen Allen do, other than throw the ball harder than the other guys, that allows you to so confidently say that it "shouldn't be too difficult" for him to show that he's better at this stage in his career than both Peterman and McCarron?

That's all I needed to read to know that all of this is just the offering of an amateur writer with an opinion. If not that, then this, which you conveniently omitted. "Yes, Peterman did register the best passing statistics of his quarterback competition at camp, and did so mostly against the Bills first-team defense. I, for one, am taking this as nothing more than fool’s gold". BuffaLowDown.com has seemingly been on a biased, anti-Peterman crusade for a long time, so it makes sense that you would go there for support in your stance against him.

'Shows anything' meaning what?

And what's more is that the same who are calling for Allen to be named starter early on as you pointed out, just as Peterman was tried out early in the Chargers game with negative results, didn't even want this Josh to be the one chosen in the draft if the Bills were going to go with a Josh. But now they are so adamant that he starts out over Peterman for no other reason than him having more upside. They're essentially being the little kid in the sandbox who snatches his ball and goes "You can't plaaay!" to the other kid that just entered the sandbox. They don't care how well Peterman plays...they don't want him in the conversation...they just don't want him to play.

It's funny, they sound exactly like some in here. Especially the shorter guy...same sentiments.

Alright...what username do you two post under in here? P.S., You don't have to pretend to be a Vikings fan...it's not that serious.

Sure.

Been meaning to get back to this post. The part of most substance that I was highlighting is the part about Peterman being noted for making solid reads and showing accuracy consistently on that day. I think that's big. I don't think it can be dismissed just because it's occurring during training camp and not against an actual opponent. I think Peterman's ability to go through his progressions is the single trait that could put him over the top in the race for the starting QB job. It's this trait that I felt was the night and day difference between Peterman and Taylor, the ability to figure out what the defense is trying to do, and then counter it through the air. I understand that Buscaglia's take on Peterman outplaying McCarron may just be mere opinion, but the part about him making the right reads and displaying accuracy are both objective realities that I think is cause for legit optimism moving forward.

Its cool.

from newyorkupstate.com Nathan Peterman enters "The silver lining of Taylor going down was the Bills getting a chance to see. rookie quarterback Nathan Peterman with the first-team offense. It was an uneven night for Peterman. His protection was not great, and the offensive line took a few costly penalties that negated big gains. Still, Peterman weathered the storm and looked confident in the pocket. He got the ball out on time and didn’t let the moment overwhelm him. He finished his time with Buffalo’s first-team defense 11-for-23 passing for 93 yards. He led the first-team offense to the only touchdown it has scored all preseason. An argument can be made Peterman looked more comfortable Saturday than Taylor has this preseason, and Peterman’s preseason performance has created an interesting conversation". Peterman was impressive against other rookies and players trying to make the cut and was respectable against the Ravens first team defense. I'm just pointing out how your claims about Peterman not putting together an impressive rookie preseason, might not ring true to others who watched. If Peterman can improve on last year's solid preseason, then the likelihood of him being named regular season starting QB increases. Rookies improve from one season to the next, so your assessment based on the Chargers game, regardless of how accurate you feel it was, isn't some final verdict on Peterman's potential. It's cool though.