BurpleBull

You are clearly the one trying to discredit what Peterman has added to himself through work and repetition. You're the one adding to quotes for the sake of subtraction. Not me. I merely stated a fact...and you apparently don't like it.

No matter how you want to spin it, it's an increase in velocity that wasn't present last season and acquired through putting in work.

The work he's put in to improve the velocity on his throws from last season, for one. The media guys attending training camp have acknowledged a legit increase in velocity behind his throws.

There's audio?

The drought lives! Do you even follow the reports? From most accounts John Miller has been very good. A poster who attended camp said that Wyatt Teller also looked very good as a run blocker especially. Ducasse is a vet who was solid last season; I haven't read anything about his play falling off, so I'd imagine he's being his usual self at LG.

Highlighting Peterman's off-season progress is just that, I don't think that's propping him up.

If the coaches are holding to a depth chart versus reps, I'd say he's second on the depth chart behind McCarron.

Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher. Not found in the quote, but I'm assuming they are mentioning the same play in all three reports despite the bottom quote having the session as 11-on-11. These are all reports from Day 2 and there was only one mention of Peterman throwing a deep pass to Cam Phillips in the end zone that day. In any case, you would have never accepted the notion that Peterman could drive the football 50 yards downfield a month ago.

And I'm sure you would've acknowledged Peterman as even being capable of completing a 50- yard pass, of any kind, on a rollout a month ago. I'm certain.

Wait a second, wasn't your point that he couldn't generate the same improved zip behind a pass, if his feet weren't set in the pocket, but rather on the move? I provide evidence that he can do it, because he has done it... Now your argument is that the completion used as evidence to support Peterman's development was made too far down the field to count.

I'm not there either, I'm just going off of what I see in the videos provided like most of us and you can see that the ball just comes out differently. I was commenting more so on Peterman's throwing mechanics not his poise or footwork in the pocket early on. I'm finding that playing experience covers a multitude of QB sins or at least the one pertaining to arm strength, because those who criticize Peterman's arm strength don't consistently do the same with McCarron, despite placing him and Peterman in the same class of Bills' QBs, who 'won't even think about making that throw' when comparing him against Josh Allen.

You've used that tweet once before, but since you've chosen to use it again, I'll refer to the post I used the first time in response again. from newyorkupstate.com Buffalo Bills training camp day 2: Nathan Peterman shows off arm (8 observations) Peterman shows off the arm Josh Allen gets all the big headlines when it comes to the deep ball, but Peterman showed he can sling it when he needs to get downfield. Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher. A rollout bomb to the end zone would count towards being able to execute the whole bunch of rollouts Daboll plans to incorporate I'm guessing?

Peterman looks like a different QB throwing-wise. I think he's gonna come on strong and make noise.

Props for the video descriptions, as appreciated as the videos themselves.

The two posts you respond to here gives you the city and state that you were going for.

Training camp overload?

Firebaugh...it's Firebaugh.

Mike Love starting to get some attention. I think he's retained, backs up Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson is traded if failing to perform up to the coaches' standards. I see ability in him to serve in the same capacity that Shaq Lawson has.

Though this competition isn't to determine the QB of the future---I don't think anybody is suggesting that it is---the future can become subject to change if Peterman consistently outperforms Allen in real-game action moving forward, never relinquishing his position of starting QB--- assuming he wins the current QB non-competition as you put it.

I agree that you just may be talking Zucchini. "Allen's flashed, but been inconsistent to this point". "No one's taken the bull by the horn...". Sounds very much like the opinion of a reporter who sees things from a different perspective and it sounds very much performance-based.

A different perspective... Peterman started Day 1 of camp as Buffalo’s first-team QB. After McCarron started Day 2 as QB1, Peterman went back to the top of the depth chart on Saturday. All three have rotated in-and-out of the first-team lineup. Allen’s flashed, but been inconsistent to this point. The same can be said for McCarron. No ones taking the bull by the horns… yet.

I'm pulling for Proehl too. Hands look solid and he's said to be quick and a good route runner. Malachi Dupre is the other guy I want to shine. His hands look solid too and I think he may have pretty good speed.

This is hilarious. I was just asked if we are the same person using two different user names and I swear Jeff Garcia was the other QB whose game I thought Peterman's could end up resembling based on physical ability. I wanted to be a bit modest though, because I think Garcia was a different breed of undersized QB's. Very underrated but extremely productive. Can't honestly put Peterman in Garcia's class because Garcia had a lot of backyard football in his game that I don't see in Peterman and I don't see the same moxie. I think Peterman could excel at making the quick reads consistently and getting the ball where it needs to be with accuracy. I'm really hoping Peterman sees these early training camp jitters as another obstacle he needs to get pass and quickly in order to take that next step in proving himself. Can't wait to see his new throwing mechanics at work for myself in preseason.

No and yes.

Funny you should mention Fitzpatrick, because of recent Bills' QB's I believe it's Fitzpatrick that Peterman has the chance of mimicking in terms decisiveness and controlling the offense. Fitzpatrick was drafted in round 7 while Bradshaw was drafted 1st overall and threw almost as many interceptions as he did TD's almost every season. Fitzpatrick has made the most of himself considering his limitations. Quietly passed for near 4,000 yards along with 30 TDs as a NYJet and is 3rd all-time in TDs as a Bill despite only playing three full seasons. The coaching staff praises Peterman for his grasp of the offense and I think it's this grasp that could put him over the top. The test clearly doesn't determine a player's career, but there could be something to it.