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A different perspective... Peterman started Day 1 of camp as Buffalo’s first-team QB. After McCarron started Day 2 as QB1, Peterman went back to the top of the depth chart on Saturday. All three have rotated in-and-out of the first-team lineup. Allen’s flashed, but been inconsistent to this point. The same can be said for McCarron. No ones taking the bull by the horns… yet.

I'm pulling for Proehl too. Hands look solid and he's said to be quick and a good route runner. Malachi Dupre is the other guy I want to shine. His hands look solid too and I think he may have pretty good speed.

This is hilarious. I was just asked if we are the same person using two different user names and I swear Jeff Garcia was the other QB whose game I thought Peterman's could end up resembling based on physical ability. I wanted to be a bit modest though, because I think Garcia was a different breed of undersized QB's. Very underrated but extremely productive. Can't honestly put Peterman in Garcia's class because Garcia had a lot of backyard football in his game that I don't see in Peterman and I don't see the same moxie. I think Peterman could excel at making the quick reads consistently and getting the ball where it needs to be with accuracy. I'm really hoping Peterman sees these early training camp jitters as another obstacle he needs to get pass and quickly in order to take that next step in proving himself. Can't wait to see his new throwing mechanics at work for myself in preseason.

No and yes.

Funny you should mention Fitzpatrick, because of recent Bills' QB's I believe it's Fitzpatrick that Peterman has the chance of mimicking in terms decisiveness and controlling the offense. Fitzpatrick was drafted in round 7 while Bradshaw was drafted 1st overall and threw almost as many interceptions as he did TD's almost every season. Fitzpatrick has made the most of himself considering his limitations. Quietly passed for near 4,000 yards along with 30 TDs as a NYJet and is 3rd all-time in TDs as a Bill despite only playing three full seasons. The coaching staff praises Peterman for his grasp of the offense and I think it's this grasp that could put him over the top. The test clearly doesn't determine a player's career, but there could be something to it.

Peterman's "buzz" has died down, so it's pretty much the reverse of how things began. The expectations for Josh Allen were heightened entering minicamp, but it was Peterman who came on strong and at minicamp's end it was him making headlines. The expectations from taking an increased amount of 1st team reps in minicamp has heightened the expectations of Peterman entering training camp and he hasn't met those expectations early on. Keep in mind though that Peterman found his rhythm as minicamp progressed, this is just Day 3 of training camp. Just because Peterman may seem to be losing favor at the moment doesn't mean Peterman's story is at its end. Furthermore, it's been my belief that Peterman makes his strongest impression in preseason when things get a bit more real. This is where I believe an improved Peterman who shows the ability to keep the offense on the field and moving shines through. I still do.

from newyorkupstate.com Buffalo Bills training camp day 2: Nathan Peterman shows off arm (8 observations) Peterman shows off the arm Josh Allen gets all the big headlines when it comes to the deep ball, but Peterman showed he can sling it when he needs to get downfield. Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher.

Exactly, it was only day one, so that pass isn't necessarily a precursor of things to come. Matthew Fairburn (@MatthewFairburn) Tweeted: Nathan Peterman created some fireworks during 7on7. Two deep completions, one to Andre Holmes and another to Cam Phillips. https://twitter.com/MatthewFairburn/status/1022927569027588097?s=17

Kind of low snap, good zip, bad ball placement, is what I saw. I'm sure his new-found throwing mechanics are still a work in progress and that he will continue to work at it against more intense team competition until it becomes second nature. Has Peterman thrown an interception so far in training camp?

Probably fair to say that A.J. McCarron quietly had the better day of the group.

I have absolutely no clue. Ducasse seems like a decent addition whatever the case.

Lol. I'm glad I'm seeing the velocity talked about all off-season...the reporters made mention of it too. Day one.

I meant to ask you about this earlier in the day but didnt get the chance to, what do you mean when you say you aren't buying the Ducasse thing anymore?

Ball needed to be more to the outside. But... I see the zip!

With a stronger arm the Bills essentially have a brand new QB in Nathan Peterman, but it's the bolded parts in the last two paragraphs especially, that I've long held, as to what would likely put Peterman over the top in the competition. from Democrat and Chronicle “I think he’s a very confident young man and he’s resilient,” said Beane, who was impressed by how Peterman handled the adversity. “You saw a guy who got knocked down hard. Not all on him, either, but the greatest thing about what Nathan did was he never pointed a finger and that says a lot, because it’s hard.” Rather than spend the time between the wild-card game and the start of the Bills’ offseason program sulking, he got right back to work. He went out to California and spent time at 3DQB, which is a biomechanics training facility that helps quarterbacks, as well as baseball pitchers, hone their mechanics and throwing motion. Tom House, the former major-league pitcher who through the years has counted among his NFL quarterback clients future Hall of Famers Tom Brady and Drew Brees, worked with Peterman, and if the Bills’ spring practices were any indication, Peterman has come back a better player. Beyond the mechanical adjustments Peterman made, what Beane really likes is his grasp of the game, particularly the Bills’ new offense under Brian Daboll. “He’s super smart,” said Beane. “He’s not going to tell you how good he is or how smart he is. He’s just Steady Eddie every day and you love how he approaches the game. I know Sean’s been there more than me, but even I’ve stopped in there a couple times when Daboll’s had those guys in (the meeting room) and they’re writing stuff on the board. He’s playing Jeopardy! with them. He’s trying to just see what they know, and Nathan is really, really smart.”

I feel like I read on more than one occasion that the staff would like to have reached a decision on their QB some time during training camp. I thought some point during preseason made the most sense, but I'm just rolling with what's been suggested.

Yes. But I think Mills is very serviceable and gets overlooked a lot as being such, because he was thrust into the lineup after first being thought of only as depth. He's had games where he's struggled and I think people choose to hold on to those memories when judging him instead of making themselves aware of his positives. He struggles in space sometimes against the run and speed rushers can give him problems at times too but he definitely understands technique as a pass protector and is more sound as a pass blocker than people give him credit for.

I had no idea LG was Miller's natural spot. That would be interesting to see. But then you have to factor in Ducasse. After Incognito, he had the highest grade of any linemen. This is why I have a feeling that the Bills have better depth on the O-line and are better off then people think right now. Don't forget about Wyatt Teller at G. Really want to see what he looks likes in game action.

Alright man, we're entering the championship rounds. Time to see if anyone is declared winner.

Ahh, man I don't know. I feel Bodine might be better suited at G than Groy. Bodine looks really short at C somehow, I think it could be his short arms and lack of reach that does that; defenders seem to get into his body quickly and push him back because of it, but he did bench press 225lbs. 40 times and he can make blocks upfield. Groy on the other hand has the length and although he doesn't seem to be superior at any one thing, does seem like he would be better at stabilizing the interior of the line; Groy also looks slower and not very athletic. But let's see how things play out.

2. DALLAS COWBOYS PROJECTED STARTING LINEUP: Left Tackle: Tyron Smith, 79.7 overall grade Left Guard: Connor Williams, 85.7* (2017 college grade) Center: Travis Frederick, 90.8 Right Guard: Zack Martin, 92.2 *Right Tackle: La’el Collins, 50.7 Jordan Mills (65.7) was much better than La'el Collins in 2017, despite Collins playing alongside all-pro talent in Dallas; Collins graded out as 67.3 in 2015 and 42.1 in 2016. There's no evidence that suggests he would have been an upgrade to the Bills' offensive line, if life wasn't made easier for him playing alongside elite talent on Dallas' offensive line, yet you still feel better about him than the entire Bills O-line situation. Mills' grade of 65.7 may have been his best yet playing alongside Ducasse since signing with Buffalo; Ducasse's 75.5 rating was better than Dawkins' 74.5 and his was better than Wood's 67.9. Who's to say that the coaching doesn't simply, genuinely feel confident that this fairly new O-line can grow together and take another step entering another year together vs. this notion that coaches and the front office elected to ignore the offensive side of the ball? Keep in mind that Wyatt Teller was drafted and by all accounts he seems to be a real find in the fifth round; 98.8 pass-blocking rate and 89.1 run-blocking rate in 2016 at Va. Tech. I don't think this current Bills' regime is anything like past ones. But as you stated, preseason is nearing and it will give us all a better picture of where the team may stand entering the new season and how far along in progression certain players are.

They passed nothing to you, because like many in here, you have already set your mind to thinking poorly of the unit. You started off giving the Jags D-line props for having sacked Taylor a whopping two times with their star-studded lineup, then after I point out how certain mishaps that you were crediting their line for creating wasn't directly due to a dominating Jags defensive line, you search for and find a new way to discredit the Bills O-line performance. It's now masterful defensive gameplanning that was responsible for their All-Pro lineup only mustering two sacks, nothing that Jordan Mills, Vlad Ducasse, or Dion Dawkins had anything to do with. True enough the Jags set out to stop the bootleg, but you're fooling yourself if you think a unit that had 50+ sacks during the reg. season, sat back as spies the majority of the game to ensure Taylor never broke the pocket. The play of the guys entering a new season had everything to do with slowing their pass rush. You are just unwilling to give the team you root for any credit for it. The Bills didn't put up more points largely because of Taylor's safe style of Qb'ing and missing big throws when opportunity presented itself.

You left DE Mike Love off the list. I think he's red with the chance of falling in the blue category. Same with Austin Proehl as a slot receiver.

Thanks man.

The Bills returning O-linemen played admirably against the Jaguars D-line in the playoffs, where the intensity is ratcheted up another level. They all passed the test and against an O-line that comprised of all Pro-Bowlers and one former. It was both Wood and Incognito whose struggles really stood out on certain plays. But all and all the Bills O-line held its own collectively. The Bills put together the longest single drive versus the Jags all season in that game, so it's not as though the Jags defense kicked the Bills around the field all game long. The Bills only scored 3 because Tyrod Taylor missed what should have been a TD toss to O'Leary in the end zone and because of a questionable play call at the goal line. Neither interception was due to pressure. Taylor's was due to a tipped pass and Peterman's from not driving into his throw and putting much behind his pass. The tackle that knocked Taylor out of game was Dante Fowler's only tackle of the game, and it was a dirty play if you ask me. Almost every bad play that stood out protection-wise, came at the hands of Eric Wood, meanwhile Jordan Mills did a good job at neutralizing Yannick Ngakoue for a good portion of the game.