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It's not always about numbers. If Peterman builds on last season, the numbers are sure to follow. Peterman showed passing willingness that Taylor just didn't a lot of times, along with good accuracy. He can build on that.

I'm pretty sure as you witnessed Taylor's performance you were able to dismiss it and not view it as a reminder of previous struggles due to him finishing two full seasons as a starting QB. I was watching to see progression as a QB from the last season and a firm grasp of the new offense under Dennison from Taylor, although I'm certain you weren't.

I base Peterman's potential off of his college play and what he showed in his first action of pre-season and regular season play, and yes I'm aware of him throwing five interceptions. That's not empty.

I'm with you, I feel it's preseason football where everything becomes clearer and the big decision will be made, although I feel I read or heard somewhere that Daboll/McDermott will know who they're rolling with at some point during training camp. I think some are willing to discount all the other variables that they know go in to making a QB starter quality, if it means placing Allen in the driver seat, ready to take the wheel or not.

Good that you mention that... Peterman was sacked exactly once in 49 pass attempts during the regular season. Peterman was sacked four times in 79 pass attempts (54% comp.), to Tyrod Taylor's four in 29 pass attempts (48%) during last year's preseason. Taylor was the veteran, Peterman the rookie. Peterman showed he could lead an offense. Thank you for playing.

Okay. Ryan Leaf had talent, not saying Josh Allen is Ryan Leaf, but he had talent too. Just pointing out one's upside doesn't give credence to a claim like that.

Do you realize that Peterman as a rookie in preseason led the Bills on its only TD drive, prior to him being inserted into action with the first team offense against the Ravens? Tyrod Taylor couldn't generate a TD drive up to that point working with the 1st team and I believe he completed only 49% of his passes. Peterman threw a pretty TD pass in the Vikings game, and set the Bills up for points in both the Eagles and Lions finale. Your attempt to discredit Peterman is a very empty one, that doesn't tell the whole story.

This response doesn't answer the question. I asked what you've seen from Allen other than throwing the football very hard that allows you to say that showing that he's better than both Peterman and McCarron shouldn't be difficult a task? Arm strength and sound of football whizzing through the air aside, what have you even just heard from reports that leads you to believe that Allen showing that he's better than Peterman and McCarron "shouldn't be too difficult" even at this stage of his development? I'm just curious.

I'm not trying to be a prick, so don't take it that way, but what have you seen Allen do, other than throw the ball harder than the other guys, that allows you to so confidently say that it "shouldn't be too difficult" for him to show that he's better at this stage in his career than both Peterman and McCarron?

That's all I needed to read to know that all of this is just the offering of an amateur writer with an opinion. If not that, then this, which you conveniently omitted. "Yes, Peterman did register the best passing statistics of his quarterback competition at camp, and did so mostly against the Bills first-team defense. I, for one, am taking this as nothing more than fool’s gold". BuffaLowDown.com has seemingly been on a biased, anti-Peterman crusade for a long time, so it makes sense that you would go there for support in your stance against him.

'Shows anything' meaning what?

And what's more is that the same who are calling for Allen to be named starter early on as you pointed out, just as Peterman was tried out early in the Chargers game with negative results, didn't even want this Josh to be the one chosen in the draft if the Bills were going to go with a Josh. But now they are so adamant that he starts out over Peterman for no other reason than him having more upside. They're essentially being the little kid in the sandbox who snatches his ball and goes "You can't plaaay!" to the other kid that just entered the sandbox. They don't care how well Peterman plays...they don't want him in the conversation...they just don't want him to play.

It's funny, they sound exactly like some in here. Especially the shorter guy...same sentiments.

Alright...what username do you two post under in here? P.S., You don't have to pretend to be a Vikings fan...it's not that serious.

Sure.

Been meaning to get back to this post. The part of most substance that I was highlighting is the part about Peterman being noted for making solid reads and showing accuracy consistently on that day. I think that's big. I don't think it can be dismissed just because it's occurring during training camp and not against an actual opponent. I think Peterman's ability to go through his progressions is the single trait that could put him over the top in the race for the starting QB job. It's this trait that I felt was the night and day difference between Peterman and Taylor, the ability to figure out what the defense is trying to do, and then counter it through the air. I understand that Buscaglia's take on Peterman outplaying McCarron may just be mere opinion, but the part about him making the right reads and displaying accuracy are both objective realities that I think is cause for legit optimism moving forward.

Its cool.

from newyorkupstate.com Nathan Peterman enters "The silver lining of Taylor going down was the Bills getting a chance to see. rookie quarterback Nathan Peterman with the first-team offense. It was an uneven night for Peterman. His protection was not great, and the offensive line took a few costly penalties that negated big gains. Still, Peterman weathered the storm and looked confident in the pocket. He got the ball out on time and didn’t let the moment overwhelm him. He finished his time with Buffalo’s first-team defense 11-for-23 passing for 93 yards. He led the first-team offense to the only touchdown it has scored all preseason. An argument can be made Peterman looked more comfortable Saturday than Taylor has this preseason, and Peterman’s preseason performance has created an interesting conversation". Peterman was impressive against other rookies and players trying to make the cut and was respectable against the Ravens first team defense. I'm just pointing out how your claims about Peterman not putting together an impressive rookie preseason, might not ring true to others who watched. If Peterman can improve on last year's solid preseason, then the likelihood of him being named regular season starting QB increases. Rookies improve from one season to the next, so your assessment based on the Chargers game, regardless of how accurate you feel it was, isn't some final verdict on Peterman's potential. It's cool though.

I guess it's your opinion over everyone else who witnessed Peterman with their own eyes and came away impressed. That just isn't true, Peterman showed ability to go through his progressions, find open targets, and scramble to pick up yards when necessary in last year's preseason. Led a two-minute drive just before halftime that I believe led to points in the Eagles game, threw a pretty, over the shoulder TD pass in the corner of the end zone in the Vikings game and finished the preseason 9-11 for 81 yds. So this just isn't true.

Who are you to declare that he impressed none? Maybe you have your own understanding of what it means to impress, perhaps you're expressing a biased view because you don't feel he's the Bills best option to start, but he did impress a lot of people in last year's preseason. Showed poise and ability to lead an offense.

Can Nathan Peterman win the Bills' starting quarterback job? Some buzz is building By Sean Wagner-McGough 1h ago • 2 min read The Buffalo Bills signed AJ McCarron in free agency and traded up to draft Josh Allen in the first round after getting rid of long-time starter Tyrod Taylor in March. Yet there's a chance that their opening-day starter will be a quarterback who is actually entering his second season with the team. That quarterback? Nathan Peterman, the same quarterback who threw five interceptions in his first half of regular-season football last season. It turns out, some serious buzz supporting Peterman's candidacy is beginning to mount. On Friday, ESPN's Bills reporter, Mike Rodak, called Peterman the team's surprise offseason camp standout. Rodak noted that Peterman is splitting first-team reps with McCarron and then wrote that "Peterman should be considered a serious contender for the starting job in Buffalo Here's Rodak's entire blurb for ESPN: But here's why Peterman could win the job: His competition is very beatable. There's McCarron, another former fifth-round pick who spent the first four years of his career backing up and filling in for Andy Dalton in Cincinnati. With the Bengals, McCarron seldom saw the field and he never wowed anyone when he did get the chance to play. Then there's Allen, who features an arm as pure as Lannister gold, but is viewed more as more of a developmental prospect. He's not expected to start immediately, which is why he's third on the depth chart. None of this means that Peterman should suddenly be considered the favorite to win the job, but it's probably time for us to consider him a factor in the race, which won't heat up until training camp and the preseason.

Oddly enough, I thought it was Josh Allen whose QB comparison was Jake Delhomme. This is based off both QB's exuberance playing the game, never-say-die gameplay, and accuracy limitations. Though I believe Allen will prove to be a more accurate passer than Delhomme. For the record Jake Delhomme and Steve McNair are two of my all-time favorite QBs.

I acknowledged that the post was flawed and I addressed the errors, but Peterman didn't strike me as tentative in that game. He wasn't hesitant, he knew where he wanted to go with the ball. There were instances where lack of pass protection affected his throws, there were instances that appeared to be miscommunication between QB and WR and then you had a bad decision or a pass that was a tad late getting to where it needed to be from Peterman. When I think of indecisiveness, I think back to the second Bills-Jets game, the game that I feel kicked off McDermott's waning confidence in Taylor.

Not terrible, or even bad, but inaccurate in areas...I have no problem admitting that. That was the first post in this thread where I've really gone stat-chasing. Did so last minute to bring out a few points to address the poster before having to step out for work...hence the very late response. Missed a few things like Zay's first TD and the Saints game that preceded the benching. However, I still greatly believe that losing to the Jets was the real catalyst for McDermott's decision; Rivalry game, chance to make some noise in the standings, and the Bills lose to a struggling Jets team, with Tyrod Taylor being bottled up by its defense which tallied 7 sacks in the process. The Saints performance sealed Taylor's fate heading into the following week I think. As for Zay Jones, he had his best receiving yards game versus the Chargers, showing his big-play potential, with a somewhat more aggressive Taylor entering that game late and Taylor seemed to make a concerted effort to get Jones the ball targeting him a season-high 10 times the next game, one going for his 2nd TD of the season. Don't know how I forgot about the Saints game beatdown, but if the Bills don't get "thwapped and kapowed" in consecutive games then I'm not sure the defense says "something's gotta give". If the Bills don't get walloped by the Chargers in embarrassing fashion, but instead hold them to twenty-three points, do they have the same laser focus to shut down the high-powered Kansas City Chiefs offense or do they get complacent and get rolled over by a much scarier Chiefs offense? Who knows. I'm just saying good seemed to follow a dreadful game on defensive side of the ball and the momentum seemed to carry on as the season went on. McDermott made his decision, stood by it, and admitted it didn't play out as hoped. Peterman had his moment of infamy in which many feel he was thrown to the wolves too early and he's shining thus far in the off-season. I too am entitled to at least one, wildly inaccurate, stat-filled, rush-job of a post. Lol

You'd be asking one to speculate by asking that question. No one knows if things play out the exact same way in that Chargers game if Tyrod Taylor plays the whole way through, so it's really not that fair a question to ask. All that can be spoken on is what actually happened, what seemingly changed due to Taylor being benched. We all gotta remember why Taylor was benched in the first place and for the record I was very much in favor of the benching for Nathan Peterman as starter. Do you remember the game against Oakland? I don't think many people thought the Bills would roll into Oakland and totally shut them down despite what the records showed, but the Bills did. Fast forward to the next week's game vs. NYJ, a team stumbling around trying to fight its footing, no one expected the Bills to lose that game to a 3-5 team, division rival or not, based on what they did to the Raiders the previous week, but they did. Instead of improving to 6-2 and moving up the standings against a 3-5 division rival, they dropped the ball, and a highly indecisive Taylor was sacked a season-high 7 times. Hence the decision to give Peterman the nod at QB the following week. I really never understood why so many seemed baffled by the move, unless those confused by the move were outsiders who didn't actually follow the Bills, since the coaches and fans had grown tired of the passive, passing attack led by Taylor. Things didn't work out for Peterman in his first start against a scary Chargers pass-rush as hoped for obviously, but still enough good seemed to come out that very bad game. 1. Bills' fans found out that they had a young, decisive QB in Peterman, willing to put the ball in the air to make a play for the offense. 2. The defense buckled down to shut down a high-powered Kansas City Chiefs offense on the road for a win, after the 54-point romping and never allowed twenty points in 4 of the final 6 games after allowing 88 points in the span of two weeks, 34 coming by way of the hapless, Jets offense. I don't know if anything changes if Tyrod Taylor is never benched and Nathan Peterman never starts, but I know things didn't remain the same after he was. Zay Jones even messed around and caught his first NFL TD. How about that.