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1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:
The sky is green.
Trump’s AG: The election was not riggedTrump’s Acting AG: The election was not rigged
Trump’s Acting Deputy AG: The election was not rigged.
Trump’s Office of Legal Counsel: The election was not rigged
Trump’s Campaign Head: The election was not rigged
Trump’s Campaign Lawyers: The election was not rigged
Trump’s White House Lawyers: The election was not rigged
Trump’s Daughter: The election was not rigged.
@DRsGhost: They are all anti-Trump. I’ll believe legal geniuses like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell instead and anyone who disagrees with me is a moron.
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14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
There is no difference.
I've explained this 1000x. It doesn't matter if they were active, devout, or practicing Christian.
Were they Buddhists?
Were their beliefs forged in Hindu India?
Were their ancestors born and raised in China?
No. They were of the Judeo-Christian World. Their philosophies on government cannot be separated from their faith - regardless if they went to Church or not.
They created a government that at its core understood that your rights come from God (whoever you think that is) and its the government's job to protect them.
Any coach praying before a football game is not imposing ANY religion on anyone. May some feel uncomfortable? Sure. Then fire the coach on grounds he makes kids uncomfortable. You shouldn't be fired for praying.
Logic:
If you teach or coach at a school where every single kid on the team wants to do it - the Coach included - can they not pray?
If you answered no then I cannot help you.
Firstly, please point to me in the Constitution where it indicates that this should be a nation built on Judeo-Christian beliefs.
Secondly, after repeatedly telling Kennedy to not pray publicly in while performing his duties as a state employee (while also trying to accommodate his religious need to pray), the District decided not to renew his contract after it expired because he would not adhere to school policy. Kennedy did not apply to be re-hired.
Here is a scenario to consider:
Biden hires a new White House Press Secretary who is a Muslim. Before the start of each press briefing, she rolls out a mat on the briefing room floor and prays to Mecca. While she does not explicitly say the journalists should join her, some do. Some because they are Muslim and they appreciate the opportunity to pray, others to fit in, and maybe some feel that they will have a better chance of getting their questions answered if they join in.
Do you think this would be ok? I certainly don't.
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5 minutes ago, Pokebball said:
How do you make a kid pray to a religion they don't agree with?
If they feel pressured to do it because they believe it might affect their playing time or negatively impact their relationships with other kids.
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1 hour ago, BillStime said:
Oh come on. I haven't even finished my notes on the last one and now they spring this on me?
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26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
No. There was ZERO proof of coercion
My kids are terrified to write on a topic the teacher doesn't agree with - can we sue the school district? They feel coerced.
You can freaking pray in public.
The Bible also has several passages that will tell you essentially why we find Virtue signaling of the dumbest kind to be ridiculous - you do not broadcast your "good deed" to the world.
Judeo-Christian Civilization. It's what this country was founded in and meant to endure under.
Kennedy v. Bremerton School District was not about the right to pray publicly, it was about an endorsement of religion by someone acting in their capacity as an employee of the government. That is why the District was fine with him praying on the 50-yard line after people had left, and they tried to accommodate him to pray in private during school functions / hours. At least one parent complained that their kid felt coerced to join in even though they were not of the same faith as the coach.
And if you can't see the difference between a kid not wanting to do an assignment and a kid not wanting to pray to a religion that they do not believe in, then I cannot help you.
As to America being founded as a Judeo-Christian country, that would be quite the surprise to many of the founders. Especially the Washington and Adams administrations that negotiated and signed a treaty stating: "...the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;..."
I guess maybe Washington and Adams weren't founders, so they wouldn't know...
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On 6/25/2022 at 12:43 PM, B-Man said:
If, after all of the evidence we have, the sworn testimony, the top of the DoJ and Trump's campaign all saying that the election was not rigged or stolen, you still believe in this crap, then you should throw your modem out the window and go touch some grass because you can't use the internet responsibly.
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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Leftist hysterics.
From noted hysterical leftist, Clarence Thomas, in his concurrence in Dobbs:
Quotein future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell. Because any substantive due process decision is “demonstrably erroneous,” Ramos v. Louisiana, 590 U. S. ___, ___ (2020) (THOMAS, J., concurring in judgment) (slip op., at 7), we have a duty to “correct the error” established in those precedents, Gamble v. United States, 587 U. S. ___, ___ (2019) (THOMAS, J., concurring) (slip op., at 9). After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated.
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1 minute ago, muppy said:
I havent read the thread but just the overall gist of things gave me this crazy thought.
I used to scoff and laugh at the gun advocates when they in my verbage would " clutch their pearls" over what I considered a waaaaay overreaction to any talk of compromise and gun control laws meaning "they want our guns" "They're gonna come for our guns"
I pooo pooed it as ludicrous that couldn't possibly happen.
But here we ae. The SCOTUS has the audacity to overturn Roe vs Wade ...but if Im reading this correctly they re going to next go after contraception? Am I being punked right now? I Really REALLY hope so. I JUST made reference in a different thread how up until now that radicals had left that that ideology off the table for the most part. That would be a total game changer. You wanna know why? What's next?
SMH conception begins at *****. Register your testicles boys the "guvmint aka SCOTUS" is seemingly going to go after and YOU BE MADE ACCOUHNTABLE for every pregnancy ...its YOUR body they will want to go after next. Mandatory DNA test , Financial responsibiity for said babies. In and of itself not bad.
How's that feel MEN?
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We knew that Roe was in serious jeopardy last summer when the Court granted cert to Dobbs. The question was whether they would continue Roberts' preferred method of death by a thousand cuts, or just go whole hog and overturn it entirely. Roberts has lost control of the court.
The right to contraceptives, as well as the rights of not just gay marriage, but simply gay relationships, are squarely in the crosshairs right now.
Keep on eye on what cases SCOTUS grants cert to and that'll give you a heads up on when we may see movement on this front. Thankfully, they denied cert on a case to overturn Times v. Sullivan which means they aren't gutting defamation law yet, but I'm not totally up to speed on the other cases they might be considering.
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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Like Sebelius. Just the facts.
- Kennedy was not fire, he resigned
- The District had no objection to him returning to the field after everyone had left to pray
- Some students felt compelled to join in the prayers to stay connected to the team or ensure playing time
This isn't a case about someone trying to pray in private, it's about someone who only would pray in public when there would be plenty of people to watch and potentially join in.
This guy is basically the definition of the people Jesus called out in Matthew 6:5-6:
Quote“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
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10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Omg!!!!!! Noooooooooooooooo!!!
3 Justices continue to show what absolute trash they are.
At least those three justices understood what the facts of the case were instead of just making them up to get to their desired outcome...
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3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Done
Pretty much all of Chicago is done with her, to be honest.
I've never seen someone manage to alienate basically all groups. Cops hate her, but the anti-cop people also hate her; the teachers hate her but also I think CPS hates her.
She won 73% of the vote in 2019 and there's a good chance she doesn't even make the run-off next year.
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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
All I asked is for anyone supporting the idea the Constitution protects the "right" to an abortion is for them to identify which Article or Amendment grants that right. There are some 7 Articles and 27 Amendments. Pick one.
The 9th and the 14th amendments, generally.
When the Bill of Rights was being debated, some founders opposed the idea, thinking that listing out rights would imply that anything not on the list would not be a right. It would be impossible to come up with an exhaustive list of all rights people were entitled to, so any list would be inherently deficient. Such a list could also be used to curtail rights that were not enumerated in the document.
This is where the 9th amendment and unenumerated rights come from. Unenumerated rights are simply rights that are inferred from other rights or laws that are more explicitly spelled out.
The 9th Amendment, ratified with the Bill of Rights in 1789, reads:
QuoteThe enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
This is to combat the argument that the Bill of Rights is exhaustive of all rights and that any rights not appearing in any amendment are therefore not constitutional rights. The default position is that just because a right does not appear in the text does not mean it does not exist.
Section one of the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, reads (emphasis mine):
QuoteAll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This is where the Supreme Court finds a right to privacy for Americans and their right to make personal decisions about their family without intrusive government interference.
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1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:
1:1 ish ratio of "kidnappers' : FBI informants in Michigan
Tinfoil hat conspiracy to suggest that the FBI is involved!!!
@ChiGoose @Jauronimo @LeGOATski
Silent.
Cmon guys keep relying on "right wing sources" to defend your idiocy.
Not sure why you tagged me here, I haven't been active in this thread. Also, I don't live on this board, I have a life. I've spent most of today prepping my home for sale, but now I'm being called out for not responding to whatever this is?
Fine.
I think what the FBI did in Michigan was stupid. I think there's a fine line between having an informant versus entrapment and the FBI crosses the line too often.
Not only did their actions blow up the case, but they also harmed Gov. Whitmer and her family.
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4 hours ago, Buffarukus said:
at this point in time there seem to be 2 kinds of people. this may be stereotyping at its finest but its what i believe, dont get offended.
those that consume and most importantly believe a unanimous opinion pushed out by the corporate press and those that are skeptical and independantly look for answers. i think you can easily look at the large amount of stories that democrats repeatedly jump on, some that they still believe, even though they have been throughly debunked. pretty clear evidence that democrats are easily controlled by corporate media. russia gate, EVERYTHING on covid, covington, smollett, hands up don't shoot, hunters laptop, jim crow 2.0 on and on and on. democrats took them all as fact INSTANTLY. a bit of time and just a second of independant research and you can get to the real story but fleeing to social media and labeling people the worst thing imaginable then moving on to the next lie shoveled in their direction is too enticing. im not saying repub are not in this camp but they dont have the media firepower to push the lies at the same scale and culturally have little power to make anything stick.sorry to say if you moved party strictly due to trump then i think it may have been due to the media onslaught on the administration and not the actual policy he made. maybe im wrong.
but this ties into alot of what your reply is about and blitz. for the most part you are basically saying. there are issues we are facing and the democrats are making good faith efforts to address them in new ways. some work and others dont. you cant get positive change if you don't try. oragon for example had a positive one to show. no one can really argue that point. but we need to look at the sheer amount of bad that's resulted and in that respect..
the cause i see is one of two things and can be nothing else.
one is incompetance. how much of the failures of the dems are we willing to attribute to them just being completely incompetent at their profession before we come to the conclusion, no..this is intentional. the "greatest minds" in these fields with a infinite amount of resources and money and yet we see repeated utter failure on every level for major issues we face. inflation was a issue ordinary people were concerned with. this directly after completely shutting down the world economy. so we could take a measured targeted approach monetarily. we have access to global advisors on supply chains ect ect ooor we can dump trillions on scale unseen of and go whoopsie!! if it leads towards economic suffering and possible collapse of the system...THEY ARE STILL DUMPING BILLIONS AT A CLIP!
covid, your telling me the WHO had no indication that the virus was easily transmutable in air? your telling me science still cant find the origin, your telling me the greatest scientists on the planet had no data that the vax did not stop the contraction or spread enough to at the very least stop the villianization of those that were skeptical. that ignoring florida and texas numbers YEARS into lib states lockdown, all while advocating the censorship and demonizing anyone EVEN MED PROFESSIONALS! was just another whoopsie!!?
withdraw from afganistan. listen to soldier who were there. boarder policy listen how bad ot is in boarder states. energy. CRIME! when it comes to crime we are talking less about trial and error as you speak. we are talking about dead bodies and families grieving. we are in a economic crisis. this is no time to have this abundance of empathy for criminals and perform new experiments to see what may suit their needs better. failure results in innocent people suffering, communities collapsing INSTANTLY. unlike all the other problems they are addressing such as crushing people slowly over time economically. maybe wait until we get back on our feet then run their little experiments. at this point use a iron fist to at least give law abiding people a bit of relief on their saftey after years of scaring the crap out of them with a virus and economic downturn. but that is too rational.
so how many whoopsies and at what level of incompetence are you willing to tolerate before you come to the conclusion that the democratic party is not incompetent..they are very good at the task at hand. intentionally destroying america. if you come to that conclusion, which is a logical one by what I've indicated. is it not? im not using absurd examples or outcomes. how is blitz even wrong? how exactly are you or anyone who is even vaguely aware of their surroundings not in complete opposition to what they are doing. even if you do believe its incompetence and not intentional. instead you (not you personally) will get up in arms by any little cultural issue to keep you directed firmly towards your neighbor and not THEM.
now the topic is states getting control of abortion. FORGET that dems have a majority and could get passage of a reasonable abortion legislation. but they dont want that. that would solve a problem they can use to divide, and use in elections. i guess we can just chalk up abortion legislation as more incompetance...from both sides.
my stance on blitz is we can avoid a civil war if both sides wake up and unite to stop this distruction instead of pointing at each other. thats why im here. to have reasonable debates. its a very small contribution to the cause but a attempt none the less. screaming and namecalling only exacerbates what blitz thinks is inevitable, and sadly its looking more and more he's right. the first step is to know who the enemy is. at this point who is doing the most damage? id say the experimentation with life or death issues and clasping on to virtue signaling and empathy above everything regardless of obvious outcome is the #1 problem imo. ill focus on republicans when they have any actual power afterwards.
1. Two types of people: those that believe the unanimous opinion and those that are skeptical.
I honestly very much disagree with this take. I think the overwhelming majority of Americans do not spend their time thinking about politics. They are thinking about their family, their jobs, bills, (and The Bills for most on this board), etc. What news they consume is what is most convenient or what makes them feel the best. They are not especially well tuned in to the discourse and if you asked average people about Smollett or Covington, I would wager most would have no idea what you're talking about or have completely forgotten.
I also do not believe that Democrats are inherently more susceptible to falsehoods than Republicans. For all of your examples, there are countless examples of Republicans believing ludicrous claims like JFK Jr. is still alive or Barack Obama is secretly still controlling the presidency. There was a very interesting story from Planet Money a while back about finding the source of some of the viral fake news on Facebook. They interviewed a guy behind a lot of it and he mentioned that he originally targeted both liberals and conservatives but the liberals didn't engage while the conservatives completely took the bait. I don't think it means that conservatives are inherently more susceptible either, but Democrats certainly do not have a monopoly on getting hoodwinked.
I am also very wary of people doing "research" on the internet. Most of us are not trained to do research. When I am trying to figure out the efficacy of a particular COVID test, I cannot run clinical studies. I don't know how to interpret the p-value of a particular study. I just don't have that background and neither do the vast majority of us. I am not saying this of you in particular because I do not know you, but generally when I see someone saying "do your own research" on the internet, they are advocating a position that is demonstrably false.
2. Media Criticism in General
I generally try not to engage in media criticism, but I'll dip my toe in for a moment. I think CNN is one of the main root causes of why everything in our politics is awful and I think Fox News is a truly, truly evil company. I do not watch television news because it is just empty infotainment designed to create an emotional reaction in the viewer that keeps them glued through the commercial break.
I find that so many posts on PPP devolve into how the media covers things instead of the thing itself. While it is fair to criticize the way things are covered, it generally just ends up derailing the conversation. It also routinely ends up into straw man arguments where people end up arguing about what some outlet said instead of what actually happened.
That being said, I do not believe the "mainstream media" is as much a monolith as you claim. Media outlets, especially television ones, are incentivized for revenue and will present what gets the most engagement. MSNBC targets people on the left, Fox Targets people on the Right, CNN targets shooting itself in the dick every day.
Generally, I try to avoid looking at what the media says and instead look to what the principle actors are saying and doing. I care far less about what a media outlet says Richard Donoghue testified at the hearing than taking the time to read or listen to his actual words.
3. Democratic Party intentionally destroying America
I have worked on a campaign or two, I have friends working in the government. And from that small experience, I can say that getting things done in the government is incredibly hard and complicated. Government is complex and it is chock full of rules and bureaucracy. People cannot generally snap their fingers and get something done. It often takes quite a bit of time and work to get something meaningful done, if you ever get it done at all.
When Trump came into office and tried to institute the ban on travelers from Muslim countries, it failed twice before he finally got it done. Why? Because his advisors did not understand the rules nor the process. They were incredibly inept at administrative law, which resulted in them running into hurdles they could have avoided with better experience or knowledge.
Look at Biden's whole Build Back Better debacle. You had the far left arguing for an incredibly expansive program while moderates were pushing for a much smaller package. They spent months arguing about it in private and public before it actually tanked. They blew up most of the administration's political capitol for absolutely no gain.
At the federal level, the filibuster sets a very high bar to get most anything meaningful done. Even when Obama came into office with 60 votes, it was a mess for him to get the ACA across the line, and the effort cost them that power in the midterms. This stuff is really hard even for people who are good at it. The Dems are not good at it.
For example, your claim that the Dems could pass a common sense abortion bill. That would require them getting rid of the filibuster, which they do not have enough votes for. You could argue that they could try to get GOP votes, but why in the world would the GOP senators do anything that would make the Dems look good? They would either propose poison pills or just not come to the negotiating table at all. In a two-party system with an election coming down the line, delivering a win for the other party just doesn't make sense.
Finally, I have a hard time understanding what the point of the Dems destroying America through incompetence would be. Why wouldn't they just do it competently?
4. Pointing at each other and civil war
I really wish we could break out of this "us vs them" mentality, but I am skeptical it can happen in a two party system in a world with social media and 24/7 news outlets. The easiest way to get someone to support you is to tell them that some "other" is bad and they will save you from them. In a two-party system, it devolves into anything the other team does is bad, therefore if they do something, it must be bad.
But this is not exclusive to the Left. I have never heard anyone say "own the Cons" unironically but "own the Libs" is a common discourse from the Right. Even on this board, I frequently see people seemingly celebrating that Dems are not happy, as if their follow Americans are their enemies.
This is why I try to avoid language that points at voters. I try to use "GOP" or "Republican officials" to make it clear I'm talking about party officials and electeds, not voters (though I am not perfect and probably have missed that at times). People vote the way they do for a variety of reasons and neither side is a monolith.
While I do not think we're actually headed to a civil war (partly because the geographic breakdown would be more urban vs rural than a clean break of states), I think the best way to turn down the heat is to change our political incentives through electoral reform. We currently have a system that incentivizes candidates to move to the extremes of their parties to get elected. The Dems electeds are getting more liberal (look at the backlash to Pelosi endorsing Cueller) and the Republican electeds are getting more conservative (look at Elise Stefanik's ongoing shift from moderate to the extreme). There are a raft of electoral reforms I would like to enact that might solve this, but even something as small as outlawing gerrymandering nationwide would dramatically change the type of people being sent to Congress.
Maybe if we changed the kinds of people going to Congress (on both sides), and incentivized them to actually *do* something instead of pandering for media, we could make some beneficial changes.
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
Do you think the Supreme Court will rule a federal abortion ban constitutional?
This one? Probably. Originalism is the jurisprudence of doing whatever the hell you want and then finding a reason to justify it.-
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6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
So ... all that "limited federal powers" stuff Alito crowed about for 70 pages or whatever? Yeah, it's ok to ignore that now and to call for a federal law banning abortions in all states.
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
I already said I support legal abortion in lifesaving scenarios. But thanks for playing.
Without Roe and Casey, those exceptions are no longer required
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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I get a vote bay bee.
Sorry you can’t kill as many kids. Must be a hard day for you.
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7 minutes ago, Irv said:
Did I say that? You must have *****-for-brains. There should be a mandatory IQ test on this board before mouth breathers like this clown can post. What a mess.
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2 minutes ago, 716er said:
Lots of peaceful protests so far this weekend.
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In America, we protect the right for a kid to be born and then killed in a school shooting.
It’s the American way!
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2 hours ago, Buffarukus said:
that was a time those idiots swore inflation was not a concern. people with fancy economics degrees from harvard and such "didnt see this coming". sure is alot of ineptitude going on in this administration, i dont buy it.
manchin might have saved this country as liberals/ media slammed him. thank god 1 democrat had a bit of sense on insane spending.
i have one question in regards to how democrat decisions are purposfully destroying society.
id love a explanation why you all became so pro criminal now? scream about guns when it comes to legal purchase but literally have a revolving door for felons with violent histories to get wrist slapped for illegaly carry and MORE violent crime. they have no issue with theft and buisness leaving. they don't allow cops to foot chase criminals IN CHICAGO if it isn't a "felony"! no cash bail to watch them go out and commit more crime. on and on and on.
please explain the mentality that comes along with (criminals have become the victims) and how exactly any of this soft on crime is approved by anyone as crime and murder is ESCALATING. the very same people screamed black lives matter are kicking back eating popcorn while they are getting slaughtered in the street.
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A) dems have lost their god d#$n minds
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B) the leadership is purposefully trying to destabilize society as we know it.
this is just one of the things that has me believe blitz is absolutely right. there is no compromise here because there is no rationality behind it other then pure empathy for people that dont give a $#/+ about you and will be more then happy to take everything you have and kill afterwards. all this in a time where inflation is making law abiding people desperate. a time right after police were villianized by the same people they are suppose to protect. its a recipe for destruction and they are concerned more with what the proud boys are doing.
a toddler could tell us this is not going to end well for innocent people. yet we see more action by the "apalled" from a court who handed abortion back to the states then any of this insanity. every liberal DA should be fired and many think they are heroes.
every liberal i talk to can't seem to respond because i dont think there is one. maybe your up to the task.
I'm going to answer this to the best of my knowledge and in good faith, but before I do so, I want to make a quick(ish) point.
The current Democratic Party is far more heterogenous than the modern Republican Party. While there is common ground that accounts for a significant percentage of the GOP, the Democratic Party is very decentralized. From a political science perspective, it does not make sense that people like AOC and Bernie Sanders are in the same party as Joe Manchin and John Tester.
In a society with a political media that can best be described as terrible, that means that one can take a statement from one person and try to ascribe it to everyone in the same party, regardless of the truth of the exercise. I state this not to try to wiggle out of answering your questions but more to underscore that just because some people in the party espouse a view does not mean that is the view of the party as a whole.
Anyway, to your questions:
1. Inflation
Traditionally, the Fed targets an inflation rate of around 2%. However, for years we were well below that despite the Fed's best efforts. It had been understood that there was a relationship between inflation and unemployment, but that uncoupled in the recovery from the great recession. Unemployment kept dropping but inflation stayed low and was still unable to meet the 2% target.
During the pandemic, we passed several stimulus bills to keep the economy afloat and inflation still stayed below target. So it seemed to many like a good time to invest in our infrastructure and economy. No matter how much we spent over the past several decades, we couldn't even get inflation as high as we wanted, so why not?
This is where the transitory idea came from. They pumped money into an economy that seemed very receptive to it, but they unwittingly passed the threshold. While we were coming out of COVID, the economy hadn't righted itself yet. We were still spending disproportionately on goods instead of services. And unlike services, goods relied on the supply chain. So now we have more money coming in for goods into a supply chain that is broken, China has a new COVID outbreak and shuts down major cities, the supply chain hasn't fixed itself yet, and then the war in Ukraine starts. What, to some, seemed like a transitory problem quickly became recognized as a real problem. Janet Yellen recently owned up to this, saying she was wrong.
2. Crime
There has recently been a recognition that our rate of incarceration is abhorrent. We have, I believe, the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Unless you think that Americans are inherently criminals (which I do not), that would seem at odds with our view of American greatness and freedom. There has been really good work on how to intervene to prevent crime and arrests in different cities that show real progress. The CAHOOTS program in Oregon routed certain types of calls to social workers instead of police for certain calls and it's been a success.
Generally, what you see are different attempts at trying to weigh the reactions to certain crimes. Is it justified to end someone's life over a property crime? At what point does chasing a criminal actually pose more risk to the public than letting them go for the moment?
If a kid does something stupid like shoplifting a couple of things, do they need to enter the judicial system and all that entails, or could they be diverted in a way that reduces the chances of future incarceration?
Police are inherently reactionary and not proactive. So there is a movement for earlier intervention to prevent the need for police in certain situations. Unfortunately, some people who may be more well read on policy and study than the average American decided that "defund the police" was the right slogan for this. They focus on the end result instead of spending more time on root causes. Obviously, most people who spend most of their focus on their family and their career, would be absolutely befuddled by that idea. And it certainly doesn't help that these sorts of changes would take a generation to show a return and in the meantime their advocates would be (rightly) ridiculed.
This anti-cop attitude, in combination with instances of awful actions by some police, has driven a big divide about cops that should not exist. Ideally, we would establish many of the reforms that reduce violence and make things easier for cops, but do so in a way that doesn't create an "Us vs. Them" mentality between the cops and the public. But the slogans matter to a very vocal minority, which throws a wrench in real, meaningful reform.
3. Democratic Leadership
I don't think I've ever seen an organization so starved of leadership than the modern Democratic Party. I spent most of my life dismissing the Dems and supporting the GOP. During the late Bush years and then the Obama administration, I was a proponent of serious GOP reform (i.e. I did not understand why a small government party would have a problem with gays being married). But I finally left the party during the Trump administration, realizing that the party I wanted to be a part of would never exist.
I use that as a preface to say that joining the Democratic Party SUCKS. They spend most of their time infighting and blaming each other for everything and very little time on how to get power and then do something with it. Every Democrat I know wishes we had a version of Mitch McConnell: a ruthless leader who keeps everyone in line and drives the party towards power.
Instead, we have senate leader Chuck Schumer, who spent months publicly feuding with Joe Manchin before it was revealed he was sitting on Manchin's list of requirements. I've never been a big Nancy Pelosi fan, but I recognize her skill during the Obama administration in navigation legislation. But why in the world is an 82 year old leading the party?
Unlike the GOP, which has a decent crop of younger politicians, the Dems set their rank almost solely on seniority. Which is why they are far older, and act as a gerontocracy that is totally unable to meet the moment. I have a hard time in believing theories that there is some grand plan they are pushing because they lost to a failed businessman in 2016 and continue to get destroyed in elections across the country. They are completely incompetent and not up to the moment.
4. Blitz
I haven't been on the board very long, but I have yet to see Blitz post anything that even closely approximates a rational thought, so going forward, dismissing their posts is generally a good idea.
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27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Nice try ChiGoose
The Party wants one thing…power. They couldn’t give a damn about their ‘supporters’ singing.
It doesn’t matter what they want, they’re too incompetent to get it.
They couldn’t organize a pizza party if they tried, nonetheless secure power.
They spent months negotiating privately and in public with Manchin over Biden’s signature legislation only for it to turn out that Manchin had given his list of wants to Schumer months ago but Schumer failed to mention that.
They are in way over their heads and the idea that they are going to do somehow take over everything is laughable.
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14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Every institution in America that matters is compromised - its been true that many leaned left or supported Ds. But what I see post Covid is something much more sinister at work - the objective isn't just cheerleaders Ds anymore. It's to silence, ignore, or "cancel" ANYTHING right of center. Anything and anyone straight out of Mao's playbook.
And they used to hide it.
Threads like this show you exactly how far they've fallen.
Just winning elections isn't going to be enough.
The Dems have had:13 months since SCOTUS granted cert to Dobbs.
6 months since oral arguments
1 month since the opinion was leaked, confirming their worst fears
Most of a week knowing the most likely day the opinion would come out.
And their best plan was to… sing on the Capitol steps, fundraise, and say they will get around to doing something about this.These ideas that the Dems are behind the scenes doing sinister conspiracies with the deep state and the FBI and the media and colleges and reverse vampires or whatever, is completely undercut by the fact that the Democratic Party is probably the most incompetent organization on the planet.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by ChiGoose
Please go talk to an OB. Or any expert in the field.
A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. That’s what it is, that’s what it’s called.
The treatment for most miscarriages is an abortion to remove the tissue and prevent illness.
Any law that governs abortions also governs miscarriages and they are no longer required to differentiate between the two.
I have been living this nightmare for four years, believe me, I know what I am talking about.
Seriously, just please either consult an OB or read any of the hundreds of examples that are easily available of women whose lives were endangered by a miscarriage because abortion laws interfered with their treatment.