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ChiGoose

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  1. 22 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

    Is it that hard to admit he was on the left and condemn the violence? 

    The violence was abhorrent and will only lead to bad outcomes. 
     

    But you’re gonna have to come up with more evidence than the fact that Kirk was a Republican and an anonymous quote that is later retracted. 
     

    Definitely open to this guy being a lefty, but it’s pretty much all conjecture at this point. 

  2. Lots of people sharing a quote from a single anonymous source that the outlet has already walked back:

     

    ”Editor’s note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove summarized quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship.”

     

    Guardian article about Robinson being liberal

     

    Everyone looking to jump to conclusions to fit their own narrative instead of waiting for more hard facts to come out. 

  3. 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

    Yes- American citizens 

     

    Incorrect! The Constitution applies to both citizens, and non-citizens alike. The Framers were very careful to be clear about which parts applied to citizens, and which were for all people within the United States. 

     

    You can read the text for yourself. They mention citizens about a dozen times, and "person" over 20 times. 

     

    "No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States."

     

    Sections that pertain to persons are for all people within the country while sections pertaining to citizens are just for citizens.

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  4. 12 minutes ago, Logic said:

    I know the media and local law enforcement bodies are not well equipped to understand this type of nuance, but....Robinson sure looks more like a Groyper than a leftist.

    I highly recommend reading through both of these threads (of note, slide 9 in the first thread states a factual inaccuracy, but it doesn't invalidate the rest of it). The second thread (about Groypers) is quite informative, for those who don't know what they're all about.

    Realistically, I know most of you won't read either of them because your opinions are already formed, but...just thought I'd offer something to counter the frothy-mouthed, leftist blaming ragegasm happening in here right now.
     


     



     


    Thanks for sharing this, it’s very well done. 
     

    I don’t think most people are ready for how many violent meme cultures and communities like groypers and TCC are out there and how they don’t map onto convenient political narratives. 

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  5. 23 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

    You what doesn't help crime in your area?

     

     

    Every democratic leader you continue to elect.

     

    I don't care what you think. You play a part in your cities failings.

     

    Kinda telling that according to you, the Dem party is pro-crime and yet the GOP cannot win an election in a city that is apparently a hellhole of crime.

     

    If you were right, should be pretty easy for a Republican tough-on-crime candidate to get elected here. Of course, that would require you being correct...

  6. 7 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

    For now.

     

    Enjoy your crime.

    You should probably worry about the joke of a mayor you have and less time about Trump.

     

    Dudes failed most of the citizens of Chicago.

     

    If you still think the National Guard deployments are to provide a solution for crime, I don't think I can help you. Sky is green or whatever you want to believe.

     

    I doubt Johnson gets re-elected.

  7. 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

    And that's what's key: if he was truly "acting on his own" (even if inspired by some online haters), well, then it's sadly what we see all the time.

    Acting with he actual assistance of someone or someones else? That's a big deal.

     

    Nihilism is pretty common with some of these groups, especially with Gen Zers. 

     

    Personally, if someone was part of a community that promoted violence, encouraged its members to commit violence, and celebrated them when they did, I wouldn't call the violent acts those of a "lone wolf" even if technically nobody else was legally complicit in the planning or perpetration of the violence.

     

    This stuff doesn't fit simple political narratives though. Hard to bludgeon the other side with it.

     

    Doesn't mean Kirk's shooter belonged to such a group, but I wouldn't be surprised.

  8. 2 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

    Has this come out yet? I haven't seen anything on this.

     

    Nothing for sure, but the phrases written on the cases are very similar to ones commonly used in some online communities.

     

    So while we wait for more info, I'd remain open to the possibility that he belonged to some fringe online community and not necessarily acting on his own.

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  9. 7 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

    Not part of some "movement". 

     

    I would not necessarily agree with this at this point. 

     

    A lot of the people who end up being described as "lone wolves" belonged to fringe online communities. They often talked about their plans to do violence, or were even encouraged to do those acts. We just write them off as lone wolves because things like True Crime Community, Zizians, groypers, or 8chaners don't fit popular narratives. 

  10. 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    I'm going to believe that Charlie Kirk wasn't killed by a video game addict.  I'm going to believe since he was a Right Wing Political Activist, he was politically assassinated and that it relates to the ANTIFA phrase.  That seems obvious to me and I think it does to you too.  Which would the dots connect to?

     

    Groypers hated Charlie too. Doesn't mean they did it, doesn't mean it wasn't someone on the left, but the people who disliked him were not confined to the left. Also could just be a local nutjob taking advantage of a prominent person coming to their town (wouldn't be the first time).

     

    Best to avoid jumping to conclusions until we learn more.

  11. It continues to remain a good time to avoid jumping to conclusions.

     

    "According to a preliminary internal report circulated inside the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, federal and local officials recovered ammunition with the rifle that appeared to be engraved with statements “expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.”

     

    "But a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that report had not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence, and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted. In fast-moving investigations, such status reports are not made public because they often contain a mixture of accurate and inaccurate information."

     

    (Source)

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  12. 6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

     

     

     

    While I'm sure there are random a-holes making jokes about this, Dem electeds and leaders have by and large been condemning the violence. Which is a pretty marked distinctions from all of the jokes about the attack on Pelosi's husband from MAGA electeds and leaders. 

     

    6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

     

    No, believe it or not our FEARLESS AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED FBI director has completely botched this investigation so far. 

     

    Best thing to do in these scenarios is to keep quiet and not speculate until there are hard facts. But that doesn't feed the media machine.

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