ChiGoose
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16 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
Also, we need to recognize that in Biden's case he was the former VP. I expect the Presidential records act and other conditions, provisions, and protections that apply to the President do not extend to the Vice President or other former members of the executive branch.
I don’t think there are any rights for a Vice President or President to have government documents after they leave office.
Assigning the Biden case to a Trump-appointed US Attorney was the right call here.
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43 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Japan, while not in New Zealand’s class, mitigated the hell out of their Covid risk. The current numbers don’t seem like it’s paying off that well. Maybe Covid is just different that way. Or maybe it’s just that people don’t care enough.
Probably a combination of both. The current strain is much more infectious than the original. Some things that would have worked in the past aren’t as effective against this version-
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3 minutes ago, Doc said:
Nope, haven't wasted my time looking at it. And I have no doubt they're working on as many ways as they can. They'll still fail to get anything significant on him.
And obstruction isn't the problem for Joke. It's illegally possessing classified material. Just because he didn't obstruct it's return (which is false, or at least misleading), it doesn't mean he didn't commit a crime and shouldn't be punished. But again, there are backroom deals to be struck and I'm betting they will be.
As much as Trump could declassify his documents. You really want to make that argument?
Actually obstruction generally would be the biggest problem. Possessing the documents illegally is rarely prosecuted if people cooperate with authorities.-
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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Your contention is that continued masking (kn95 or better) and continued vaccination will bring covid to heel. Is that right? Follow the science?
wish-casting
It’s not. My contention is that mitigating risk mitigates risk.
It’s a revolutionary concept. I should write a book on it.
5 minutes ago, Chris farley said:IS that what you just did?
And just the ones you dont agree with, or the blue anon ones you have parroted?
WTF is blue anon?-
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3 minutes ago, wnyguy said:
Well, I mean, that was the whole point in releasing the virus, right?
This thread is a wild ride of conspiracies.Just waiting for someone to blame the lizard people or the Illuminati.
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4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Irrelevant. Comparatively successful does not equal success. Nations that are serious about masking and vax have not succeeded in defeating covid. That includes NZ.
Now go stock up on N95 and make sure your miracle vax (which I got the first two of my own free will) is up to date.
Are you defining success as no COVID at all? Because that went out the window a long time ago. Seems to me like preventing deaths is worthwhile, but I guess you disagree.
In any event, if enough people oppose mitigation, maybe the GOP won’t be able to win elections anymore because their voters will be dead…
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Just now, Gene Frenkle said:
So this is an anit-vaxxer thread now I guess.
Basically every thread here devolves into some BS crap that you can’t actually understand how people actually believe it. -
Just now, Pokebball said:
How do you know he actually hadn't?
Because the FBI found a bunch of documents at his place after he sent the letter. -
2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
I wonder if they are an obese population like us. You are good with the way a smallish island nation’s government handled their citizenry in the quest for safety. A quest that currently has them one of the world’s hot spots. It’s a success story!
You could just scroll through the numbers and see that the majority of countries had better success at preventing deaths than we did. -
1 minute ago, Pokebball said:
How do you know Trump lied to investigators?
He sent a letter to the DoJ saying he had returned all the documents when he actually hadn’t. -
9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
We define success differently. So be it. Hail New Zealand for their caring.
New Zealand deaths per capita: 49.65US deaths per capita: 333.15
Seems like they’re doing a lot better than we are
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5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Thank you. Since you feel that covid is still raging mostly because we don’t care about mitigation, can you direct me to a single success story where covid mitigation steps have proved successful and how success is defined? It certainly isn’t a highly vaxxed/masked country like Japan.
New Zealand-
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Just now, JDHillFan said:
Thank you. Your mask protects others even though I suspect you have been vaxxed repeatedly. But why only one? Dr Fauci recommends two.
I usually use a KN-95, which is fine by itself. Stopped using cloth masks long ago. -
Just now, JDHillFan said:
You obviously care deeply. Kudos to you. Do you wear one mask or two when you go out?
Do your part, stay six feet apart!
I do wear a mask when indoors in public spaces.-
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3 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:
I thought only Chigoose is allowed to make the "Republicans are evil, Democrats are only inept" argument?
Some Dems are bad.
In fact, the reason the Trump appointed US Attorney in Chicago is still employed and able to oversee the Biden investigation is because he’s also overseeing the Madigan investigation. Madigan is as corrupt as they come and the senators from Illinois wanted the US attorney to continue going after him so Biden didn’t ask for his resignation when he came into office.
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1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:
Just when I think they can't get any stupider...
There’s no bottom.-
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1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:
Has it, Tim?
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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:
LMAO. we all know Biden will never even respond to investigators. maybe a lawyer.
Adn the MSM will explain the reasoning as "orange man bad"
and then crickets.
But then again old Hillary has been working her old contacts and money big time. like she is planning something in 2024
Biden is already cooperating with investigators.
Do you actually look anything up before posting or do you prefer to just be wrong all the time?
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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:
So we will see search warrants to confirm their isn't any more hidden docs?
Only if Biden decides to obstruct and lie to investigators.-
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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:
Who is “they”?
Most Americans.
Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing.
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10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
But you didn’t steal something from me. Well, my time maybe with silly ‘what if you stole donuts from my kitchen’ questions, but I can forgive you for that. I can see you’re struggling to back me into a corner that doesn’t exist.
Trump stole from the government and retained the stolen goods for 8 months after being told to return them.
I find it really hard to believe you would oppose the execution of a search warrant in that scenario if it wasn’t Trump.
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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
No, that’s not necessary when we can focus on the facts as they happened.
Assuming Garland was negotiating for return over items in Trump’s possession for 6 or 8 months, there’s no reason to believe additional administrative/court action could not be undertaken. It also implies to me that rumors of Trump betraying the country are quite unlikely to be true.
Once Garland pulled the trigger on the raid, I’d think the process would take place with the utmost professionalism to avoid the obvious political ramifications that come with the AG appointed by one party sending investigators to another. I don’t believe that happened.
I am uncomfortable painting the individuals carrying out the search (people do have responsibility and orders to follow), but when you control the premises for multiple hours, have specific data you are looking for, I would think great care would be taken to limit your search to that which you are there to take however long it takes. Instead, we end up with leaks, inferences, photo shoots and the like and the DOJ rejecting the judges rather benign assignment of an independent party to render an opinion on items that apparently should not have been taken.
Again, I get they can do all that. I just don’t know that they should have.
Anyway, this about Biden, and thankfully some folks not beholden to team Biden are going to look into it:
He seems to be blaming his attorneys for grabbing the documents. Interesting spin.
So if I stole something from you and you knew where I was keeping your stuff, you would oppose the police taking your things back from me?10 minutes ago, Chris farley said:The irony is deep.
If the Same DOJ that ordered a raid on Trumps place, doesn't investigate Biden. it proves its not justice, but political.
It is investigating Biden. It even assigned a Trump-appointed US attorney to oversee the investigation.
But facts are hard for Trumpers
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3 hours ago, Doc said:
No, the left doesn't care to show the truth about the number of deaths because Joke won and it's inconvenient for him to have more deaths under his watch than Trump, who was totally responsible for Wuhan virus.
Then I have to assume that Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and all the other right wing “news” outlets have COVID death counters on every broadcast, right?-
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21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
This deep state stuff makes you sound a little bit off your rocker, Chi. If you can’t have a reasonable conversation about actions undertaken by the DOJ you’re wasting your time.
While Trump is most certainly a victim of political persecution—AG Barr and common sense tell us as much, it’s important to differentiate between events that clearly were malicious and problems that are potentially self-inflicted. Perhaps a separate post could be dedicated to his state of mind and psychological trauma as a result of the persecution and how it may have impacted him here, but let’s put that aside.
I have previously stated he created the problem with classified material, that’s obvious to me. Clearly he’s not a victim in that regard. I think your argument that Merrick Garland had no middle ground between resolving differences with Trump and and the swat team approach and what followed is both silly and preposterous. There’s always middle ground, but Garland chose the aggressive route to send the message he wanted to send. He had the legal right to pursue as such, so it is what it is. I should add this here—if Trump was selling or giving away intelligence, I’ll happily retroactively applaud AG Garland for his actions.
Likewise, Biden is no victim. The matter needs to be addressed, and given that the issues run the gamut from his time in the WH to time as private citizen, to his now quite hilarious declaration about playing fast and loses with top secret material, the most logical resolution is an independent party looking over what he knew, when he knew it, and why he was holding onto top secret material over a 6 or 7 year period. I see a number of politicians expressing grave concerns over Biden’s actions, that concerns me.
You should want this too, Chi, and I am surprised to see you defend the indefensible even though it’s your guy with his hand in the cookie jar.
Ok, let’s try a different tact here.
Let’s say you’re a member of law enforcement. You know John Doe has stolen property. He has been notified that he needs to return it. For more than half a year, he refuses to return it. At one point, he then says he’s returning it but your sources tell you that he’s lying and still has much of the stolen property.
At what point do you seek a search warrant? 6 months? 8? Never?
Because I think the DoJ was being more than reasonable waiting as long as it did for someone who clearly was never going to comply.
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Taking care of big money. Houses first act.
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by ChiGoose
Basically every GOP policy falls into one of three buckets:
1. Transfer the nation’s wealth into the hands of the wealthy
2. Gain and/or maintain control at all costs to facilitate #1
3. Create emotional reactions (usually anger) in the base so they come out and vote to accomplish #2, which facilitates #1.
Its also why basically every policy fails a simple root cause evaluation
The idea that supporting the GOP helps the average American is a fantasy.