ChiGoose

Well, you’ve got it. Elected officials who take things that don’t belong to them but return them when asked don’t get prosecuted. Elected officials who take things that don’t belong to them but refuse to return them when asked to return them get prosecuted. Easy-peasy

I’m assuming that the people who still think Biden committed a crime with his possession of documents also agree that Trump committed way worse crimes in his documents case. I mean, given the facts of the cases, to believe that Biden committed crimes but Trump didn’t would require being completely divorced from reality…

Obvious ruling is obvious. She really should have handed the case off to a deputy the moment this issue arose.

A lot of the current iteration of the Right seems to be a combination of performative a-holery and projection with a mix of Dunning-Kruger.

Are you ok?

That logic makes about as much sense as saying that North Korea is a democracy because it's called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Where do you get your legal news and analysis from?

I don't watch MSNBC (or any news channel). If you're looking to understand legal issues, start with lawyers or people with a lot of experience reporting on the law. Some outlets to check: Lawfare Just Security SCOTUS Blog Election Law Blog Above The Law Some outlets have specific law beats (like Bloomberg Law), which I would prefer to their general journalists covering legal issues. Some of them have podcasts too, like Lawfare and Just Security. I also like the National Security Law Podcast as well as Rational Security. When looking for good sources on legal issues, check on who is providing the coverage. Are they lawyers? Bonus if they are law professors or have experience practicing in the issue they are discussing. As far as experts go, I generally follow the philosophy: don't ask the typical talking heads to explain legal things, don't ask your mechanic for medical advice, don't ask comedians for war strategy.

I feel like the focus on trying to ban TikTok for it's very real problems is because big moneyed interests like Meta, Alphabet, and the rest would prefer to have the government axe a competitor than enact an actual solution like the EU's General Data Protection Regulation. There's no real reason to have this rushed through other than to take advantage of a moment and avoid having real discussions that might result in a better outcome that is disliked by influential donors.

The folks in here trusting talking heads instead of actually reading primary sources (probably because they have big words) and/or listening to real experts with real knowledge (instead of random Twitter accounts that are regularly wrong) are the same voices who routinely demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge of the law, facts, and reality. They would rather be loudly wrong than actually learn anything. It's Dunning-Kruger personified.

I would strongly disagree with this take. There are significant differences in fact between Trump's cases and the actions of others that are often incorrectly conflated with him. Had Pence or Biden obstructed the investigations into their possession of government documents, they would face charges (though Biden would not be indicted until he's out of office). Claiming an election was decided improperly and suing to try to overturn the results are legal. Coordinating a multistate effort to have people falsely claim to be electors and attempt to transmit fake election results to Congress is fraud. Among the charges that Trump is facing are several counts of obstruction. All of those are the direct results of his own actions. Even if you believe that you are innocent, obstructing an investigation is going to land you in trouble. In fact, Trump should have been charged with obstruction of the Mueller investigation as soon as he left office. I don't know why Garland chose to let the statute of limitations run on that one. If there really was a grand conspiracy to convict Trump and keep him out of the 2024 election, they could have done that in 2021.

No, they do not. The modern conservative movement is built upon ignorance and laziness. They do not understand how the world works and anything that pierces their lack of understanding is just evidence that they were right all along.

You’re welcome. I am a big advocate of reading primary sources and a big critic of how the media covers legal things.

Here ya go: US v. Trump (DC Case) US v. Trump (Florida Case) The People of the State of New York v. Trump (Manhattan Case) The State of Georgia v. Donald Trump, Rudolph Giuliani, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, Kenneth Chesebro, Jeffrey Clark, Jenna Ellis, Ray Smith III, Robert Cheeley, Michael Roman, and David Shafer And also here's the ruling for the NY fraud case: People of the State of New York v. Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey McConney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holdings Managing Member, Trump Endeavor 12 LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC, Trump Old Post Office LLC, 40 Wall Street LLC, Seven Springs LLC

Because trials take time. More complicated trials take more time. And defendants have rights. Additionally, sorting out what activity was protected by virtue of him being president and what wasn't adds complication and leads to more lengthy appeals. Not to mention that there isn't a lot of precedent of former presidents committing crimes so the judges involved are likely to take more time to reach decisions as they'd want to carefully consider the facts and law since they cannot easily rely on case law. Trump has taken every effort to delay the prosecutions instead of trying to move it along quickly to get it resolved before the election. It's his right to do that, but appealing everything up and down the appellate levels pushes trials back and delays his acquittal or conviction.

There are serious national security concerns about a highly addictive app that vacuums data to send to the Chinese Communist Party but I am not sure outright banning an application like this is the best solution.

Wow. It’s almost as if the best way to end the war without the complete destruction of Ukraine is to give them the ability to push Russia back and force them to the table. Bad break for the Neville Chamberlin caucus who have played into Russia’s hands and ensured the war will rage on.

“Dems can’t stop bringing up Russia even though the evidence that the GOP is working to advance Russian aims is overwhelming. This is a serious position and I am a smart person” -Morons like Mr. Eyerolls here

Question for those who believe life begins at conception: If you were in a burning building and could only save either a baby or a tray of embryos, which would you save?

Ahhhhhh. You live in a fantasy world where you've isolated yourself away from reality. That makes sense. I was trying to understand how someone could believe that the FBI, an organization that has always leaned to the political Right, has basically always been headed by a Republican, and whose head in 2016 broke longstanding protocol to denigrate the Clinton campaign in the days leading up to the election (potentially sealing Trump's victory) was actually a tool of the Democrats. Is being gullible a requirement for being conservative these days, or does it just make things easier?

Do you honestly, truly believe that the *FBI* is in the tank for Democrats? Is that something people actually believe?

Already told you how it got out. This is all publicly known stuff. And there were many meetings between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. I don’t understand the willful ignorance. I guess people would rather be told they are right than actually be right. It’s really kinda sad.

Hillary paid Fusion GPS for oppo research. When they came up with the Steele dossier, the Clinton campaign attempted to bury it. That is obviously very different than people saying “hey, I work for the Russian government and I want to help you win the election” and the campaign responding with “sounds good!”

Man, you really will believe anything, won’t you? The dossier was trash oppo that fell apart the minute anybody looked into it. Steele thought he was some super spy getting all kinds of info because he was too dumb to realize that he was being fed lies. The pee tape story should have tipped him off.

Ah yes, unnamed sources to a Substack. That definitely beats investigations, real documents, and testimony. The Steele Dossier was unverified oppo research so unreliable that the Clinton Campaign buried it and got in trouble for doing so. Steele shopped it around but nobody would publish it because nothing in it could be independently verified. Then BuzzFeed did a very stupid thing and published it and we’ve all been worse off for it.

Is there some competition between the resistance Libs and MAGA to see who can misunderstand the Steele dossier the most? Hard to tell who’s winning, but reality is certainly losing.