Patrick Duffy

Fully agree. This is pretty much best way to describe it

I will take a guess there's more that didn't remember or didn't know than there is that did remember/knew lol

Ah ok, I got ya. Yeah Bills definitely aren't going to rush him. No reason to anyway being start of season. Anyones guess if he is ready week 1 or not, however I'd guess my odds would be higher than yours. According to what I understand, wasn't long ago (month or 2 maybe) I saw that his recovery has/is been fast and with how much hard work he's putting in it along with Bills top notch facility that he could be ready by then. Anyway, it's just one of those wait an see deals...

Where you see those odds again? Maybe a typo, but you said "d put the odds of Tre ready opening day at 5%".... Who is this "d" you speak of that came up with those odds? Not at all trying to be an ass or anything, seriously curious because I haven't heard anything like that.

Yeah me too. The comments I've came across have all been positive, even from a couple Fins fans and few Pats. 9 times out of 10 it's either , "Allen is amazing!!", "took long time but you finally got a QB worth that wait", and "he's 100% going to get Bills a SB win, more than 1" Lol, Fins fan only said, "I'd appreciate it if for just 1 time Josh Allen would stop beating our ass" lol

Not sure he starts out like Tre did back then, but I can honestly say this is the team that gives him the best chance to have a start like that if he's going to do it. This staff has definitely proved they know they're ***** when it's comes to CBs. I don't carry the slightest bit of concern they won't get the best out of this kid.

I get what you're saying, but is there really much else left to discuss about this topic? I mean Bills didn't get him, he got picked in 2nd round like most predicted and seems everything else has been discussed that one can think of lol? I'm curious what is left? Just predictions on how he does on the Jets? Not much left to know until he gets some action on the field.

Yeah have to do better especially when in those crucial situations.... As for statement I put in bold, I'm optimistic they can because he has been more aggressive than in the past. Wasn't long ago many complained he wasn't aggressive in certain situations, for example many times on 4th down he kicked it away and should have went for it. Now recently he doesn't hesitate and keeps the Offense on the field much more. So guess I'm just saying that at least he has improved in being aggressive so hopefully better decisions are made going forward,

Wow! This thread still going lol

Whaaa? Bass is clutch and has been. That's an unusual choice

Yeah, usually is more than one thing to place blame upon. As for Tre, I don't know if he will be ready for 1st game or not, but I do think he comes back earlier than some may predict.

Well regardless of how that plays out in resigning or not, I'm just saying if he ends up having a "break out" type season.

Probably, but I assumed OP was meaning like if after his time with Bills eventually landing with a different team and not drafted by a different team? Idk, either way if it had played out differently and he was drafted by Pats etc, I feel he wouldn't be hated like Brady lol.

While I do agree with you regarding the DL in general, I would also add Edmunds. If Edmunds can get that break out season that would also be a big factor

Probably, but no way to know with the Jets. They may have had Darnold a little higher than Baker.... But anyway, he was asking in a scenario in which Baker ended up still on the board at 7 would Beane have picked him.

I guess. I always thought that was his real name but lol,anyway..... Still when you hear Boomer a Bills fan thinks Berman.

I don't know but I bet not as big as Bills over paid him.

It's like some seem to believe he will never be able to grasp such a thing. Like it's some type of brain ***** that's nearly impossible to do. It's something fairly easy to get good at doing in a short period of time. Not sure why some are making it more than it is

No way man...can't do that. That's trademarked and belongs to Chris Berman

I sometimes wonder that too. I didn't believe it was close as the media kinda made it out to be. I think Browns knew all along with no doubt they were taking Baker.

As expected....difficult to find evidence when the team mostly having only 3-5 or so wins year after year for so long. Hard to know if they were tanking or not because they sucked hardcore (throat goat type extreme sucking) all that time. Lol

Yeah I wouldn't say "feared" either, but I guarantee they will be respected more this season. While they were respected for most part last season, teams knew and felt confident they could run on Bills D.

Of course he would have. Along with any other team in need of a QB. If Baker was still on the board at 7th pick any team would have picked him. Remember he was ranked the best QB that year by a lot of ppl. So no question any team picking at #7 or 8 or whatever needing a QB would have been tripping over everyone to send the pick in if Baker was still available in that scenario

Well as for the part about if Beane moves up in draft it's because he really loves that player. Something about Elam made Beane feel some kind of way

I think it's a good chance they will be better in 2 stats, pressuring the QB/more sacks. 2nd is run defense and hopefully won't give up as many big time runs. Agree, me either. I had my mind on better pass rush and run defense. Not so much rankings in general