Patrick Duffy

Yeah that's the thing though, I think he would accept that reduced price just to stay with Brady. Just my 2 cents of course.

While that's true, I think we can recall how much the Chiefs got away with in that game too. I guess I'm trying to say it was made clear that depending on which officials you have that game day, it's different how much you can get away with and what is let go or called/not called. In any event though with that being said, Bills OL was out played, but also some of it was do to a lot of holding Chiefs were constantly getting away with which in case forced Josh to hold the ball longer. Definitely not saying that was the sole reason. I mean there were quite a few times Bills OL just got blown by and was in Josh's face before you knew it. All in all Bills got outplayed, bottom line. Just wish these games were called similar and consistent. One week they let teams hold basically all day and only maybe 1 flag gets thrown. The next week they call holding with the slightest touch. It's frustrating and can make an impact on these games.

I guess anything is possible, but I really don't see him leaving Brady if he's playing again this season. I think he will play with Brady as long as Brady keeps playing and as long as Tampa wants to keep him. imo if Tampa parts ways he will retire again. Just seems like he and Brady will be together as long as possible

Yup agree. With Dallas and way they did that contract for Dak recently, it surely went up then lol. I remember reading a month or so ago that they were planning Josh's in the summer sometime. Don't know if it will go up much more between now and then though at this point with summer right around the corner. But definitely seem true that the longer it's put off the higher it goes.

Yeah I haven't seen anything about that. I really don't see that happening, like at all. If it does, I will be really surprised

I'm not familiar enough with him, but I'd definitely want a sure handed (for a large majority of the time) player receiving the PR and KR. I'm one of those that hopes to keep Roberts if possible. At least hope they make him an offer. Even though McK broke one for a TD last season, I just don't feel as confident in him as I do Roberts as far as fielding the P/KR, due to he hasn't done it as long as Roberts. Not saying he can't, just feel more comfortable in Roberts not putting the ball on the ground and/or muffing the catch. And yes I'm aware he fumbled one last season and made a couple head scratching returns when he should have taken the touch back. But he also gave them awesome field position a whole lot more times than bad, but it's very, very rare he fumbles and even more rare he muffs a return. Whatever they decide though it's likely either Roberts or McK will be the KR/PR.

I for one am very happy they managed to resign the same guys up front. Even though the run game did struggle, it's not all on them. I think with the continuity and hopefully with a little different scheme with the possibility of another RB coming in, I have confidence the running game will improve. All they really need is to show just some improvement, enough to show it is a solid threat and make teams respect it to some degree. If so, it will only make the passing game more dangerous than it already is. And Allen will always be a big threat to take off himself, although flip side of that is teams are well aware they have a fairly good chance he puts the ball on the ground.

He's joking. At least I think so. Sometimes you can't tell with that particular poster for sure. You'll see some posts where you feel for sure is a joke/sarcastic, then turns out he's absolutely serious. This one however, I'm pretty positive he's joking. Will give him the benefit of the doubt lol.

Meant I wouldn't think it would be too expensive to keep him assuming if it's similar to contract he had. That's the contract I meant.

Yup, I mean there's so very much that's unknown about the Oceans. So if only very little is known about something on our own planet, then...... you get where I'm going with this lol

I don't know the details with his contract, but I would imagine it couldn't be but so bad. Anyway I would definitely try to keep him if it's manageable..A serious threat on ST and very reliable catching P and KO and doesn't put the ball on the ground hardly ever.

Agreed, also always thought it was a no brainer, (and always thought it went without saying), unless you believe the stuff about the government having some of the "beings" and have been working/learning, reverse engineering some of the ships and all that. Which I would also say imo is possible. Anyway, the bold in your post is exactly what I would always say to him (along with other logical posters that attempted a discussion about this with him) , however, he always presents his beliefs, (which are obviously also just his opinion), he speaks as if what he says is 100% FACTS and there's no disputing it. As if he's the only one that knows what no other person on planet Earth knows for 100% certain. (Again, unless one believes the government rumors). In that case certain ones that are high level officials would obviously know something. Anyways with that being said, he wonders why I no longer want any part of discussion with him on this, even though I have told him that's why numerous times that is the reason, along with the one or two word "math/accept math" repeated replies. But anyways, some people are like that I guess, so is what it is.

Oh yeah, forgot about that. He did post other day Thanking them for 2 years. Thought something didn't quite add up. So obviously he knew then. Kinda weird he would say he didn't get a heads up then. Oh well, whatever, enjoyed it while he was here.

I mentioned that too, although if I'm not mistaken I thought it said he expected it, instead of actually knowing. But as I also mentioned, many fans also expected it so doesn't account for much.

I wouldn't jump to conclusion though. May be a reason it just so happened that it ended up being a spur of the moment type thing. Anyway with that said, there's been nothing but praise from many about Bills FO and the way everyone respects one another. Something just doesn't quite add up.

Yeah, I wonder why he wasn't given a heads up or whatever. He says he was expecting it, but so did many of us so that don't mean much. Maybe they weren't sure what they were going to do exactly until the last minute. I don't know, but I wouldn't go as far to say it was a dick move by FO. It does happen that way a lot, and sometimes players do get advanced notice. But anyway...

Just a work of art. Lol @ toast on Gilmore

Is that what you got out of my post? Conform or be cast out? You're a sensitive one......I'm simply curious to know if anyone agrees with everything you have bought to the table in this thread (which isn't much and mostly the so often repeated "math" or "accept math" . What I'm saying is I have had conversations with some who don't believe and that's fine. I can get it to a certain extent. However every single one of them also admitted that it was their opinion that other life doesn't exist, and also admitted that with so much that is unknown, that anything is possible. Speaking for myself, I believe there is more chance that there is than it isn't. And also, I'm willing to admit that it is also only my opinion and just my myself, an average person that's not important (which is what most of us are) have no clue for absolute certain. There may be or there may not be. That is a reasonable conversation to have. You however are not capable of that. Again I tried long ago discussing it with you and it was pointless as with many others that have also tried with you. Why a lot of the time people just ignore your comments, in this particular thread anyways.

yeah, think most of us expected this, but silver lining is when he was out all those games the offense didn't seem to drop all that much, if any .

Ah sucks...Enjoyed watching him play in a Bills uni. Thanks smoke for the hard work and effort, also a big factor in the constant improvement of Josh Allen. Played a major role, arguably the biggest role in the 2019 season that helped Allen start to show what he could do.

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone that is familiar and or has posted in this thread that 100% agrees with 4mer? Like really agree with everything he post about this subject? In other words, anyone else that can honestly say that with so much that's unknown in space, and with so many new galaxies and planets being discovered here and there yet also the millions and more that has not been discovered and so much that will never be discovered...... With that being said, can anyone honestly say that there isn't even the slightest possibility that some other intelligent life may be some where in the cosmos out there? Just curious because I have not seen 1 person that really agrees with 4mer to that extent. The people that I have ever came across that really doesn't think aliens exist have always at least admitted that nobody can be 100% absolutely certain due to the obvious facts stated above about so much that is unknown and so much that will ALWAYS be unknown it's unimaginable. Just wondering, thanks.

I'm gona keep this short as I can because I've already wasted too much of my time with you, at my own fault due to quoting you in the 1st place. Anyway the 1st bold....The telescopes can't see into every single galaxy (assumed that was a no brainer). Even top astronomers has make it clear there's no way of knowing what could be out there, at least no now. Hence why they are always searching. 2nd bold....yes, it's 100% true. Lastly 3rd bold.....Have attempted to have reasonable discussion with you long ago and as I stated above, it's impossible and a waste of time. So no need to quote me again. You will be the one wasting time this time around.

I think it's quite obvious to myself and many others that has posted in this particular thread that it's simply a waste of time to attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you on the subject. You just keep repeating the same thing over and over, also you get snarky at times and you act like a smartass towards others. Also I can honestly say I have not seen one person that agrees with you 100%. If so I definitely missed it and was likely only 1 person, but I doubt it.So guess we're all as you say, "loons" right? I'm willing to go as far as to say that those who do doubt (well a large majority anyways) are at least willing to admit the simple FACT that it anything is possible due to the FACT that there is no way of knowing what is/could be out there. But not you, noooooo, all you provide in nearly every post is "the math" from 19 whatever the f. So therefore it's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you. With that being said, I'm out.

I'm laughing at you. Yeah the point of my original post went over you. All you do is post "math this, math that and call people loons.It's the same things with you. If it gets to you so much, why keep coming to the thread? It obviously bothers you that some people believe and you won't change anyones mind. So why keep the same ol stuff up?

Lol, Repeat, repeat, repeat......