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I never said Allen wasn’t at fault. I’m just pointing out the defense also had a huge hand in what happened today as well as in the past.

And you can’t blame Josh for the numerous 3rd and 4th down, long yardage conversions made by the Vikings. Or blame Josh for 13 seconds in KC last year. Or blame Josh for 12 seconds in KC this year. There is a pattern that is showing with Frazier/McDermott led defenses. Inexcusable lapses with games on the line. In situations that should not be difficult to close out games/half’s.

I thought the Bills ran the ball rather effectively, and not nearly enough, to the outside. They can’t run between the tackles to save their lives.

I’m almost positive Allen tried to push forward before securing the ball. Almost positive being the key words.

I don’t disagree with your take. I just disagree with the regression term. I mean, Josh will turn the ball over now until the time he retires that will piss us off and point to when he was young. Favre also did a lot of that. Regression to me is that he does not have what he has shown for the past two plus seasons. I all think we know he still has that. Heck, his first half showed that. He’s just in a funk and I know you are right about Dorsey and McDermott. Time for them to point out to Allen that he is hurting the team with these decisions. Time for some tough love. I have no doubt Allen will get back on track if that happens. He needs a blunt talking to that he doesn’t have to make an eye popping play every time he drops back.

Just todays performance or are we talking career to date? I’ll tell you this, Josh is in a funk right now and he needs Dorsey and McDermott to point out that taking the easy throw is sometimes the best decision. Tom Brady made a Hall of Fame career out of it. He doesn’t need to make an eye popping play every time he drops back. I get that he’s feeling pressure to carry the team but he just has to play a little smarter and we’ll be fine. The question is, do Dorsey and McDermott have what it takes to firmly point this out to Josh and be honest with him that he is hurting the team at times? I hope so. Josh is an animal. Sometimes animals need to be corralled.

You know, that is a good question. What is also a good question is how does White get into “game shape”? They certainly aren’t hitting at practice once training camp breaks. Will we have to wait until next summer?

Seriously, I can’t disagree with the OP, no matter how many threads are made about the subject. There are too many issues I can point to that come right down to the coaching staff spitting the bit today.

OK. Now I get it. If I took the loss with me for eternity I may leave as well. Nobody wants the pain to last for eternity.

I wonder what your new user name will be?

They’re capable of running the table for sure. But they were also capable of winning our last two games and they didn’t.

OK. They also beat the Ravens. The Bills are in a funk. The coaching staff needs to reel Josh in and ***** learn how to stop long yardage situations on defense.

They beat KC so, yes….they can win those games. But the Bills still need to get it together.

He hasn’t “regressed”. That’s stupid talk. You don’t regress from one week to the next. Did he look like he regressed in the first half of today’s game? What he has done is hit a rough patch and apparently doesn’t have the ***** coaching staff that will reign him in and let him know the easy pass is sometimes the best pass. He’s just been too reckless with the ball the last 10 plus quarters.

How many late game situations do we have to see this defense give up 3rd and 4th and forever? McDermott and Frazier are killing this team. At least Dorsey is in his 1st season at a coordinator position. He has room to grow. McDermott and Frazier are who they are.

He needs to take the 5 yard pass that’s continually open. Defenses are on to him.

I’m officially off the McDermott/Frazier bandwagon. Going back to the 13 second debacle in the playoffs to…. The 12 second debacle in KC this season to….. Today giving up so many 3rd and 4th and longs. Ridiculous yardage needed to convert. And the Vikings did. The Bills can’t stop crucial long yardage situations? Awful! And Dorsey? 4 field goals in our last 7 quarters after halftime. There is no excuse for this. The coaching staff is letting this team down. I don’t give a ***** who is injured.

Win, lose or draw….the coaching staff should be take to task HARD this week.

Not to mention McDermott and Frazier. I don’t care if they come back and win this game. Today, as well as other meltdowns, has shown me McDermott is not the answer.

Heads better roll after this COACHING FIASCO!

This team I’ll never win with McDermott and Frazier. I am totally convinced of that.

If our defensive coaching guru's can't stop this 4th and long they deserve to be fired. Especially after last year and the KC melt down.

Ken Dorsey is not up to task. The last 3 games show that.

We have 3 field goals in our last three 2nd half's. That is absolutely PATHETIC.

I think it started to come loose before his elbow hit.