Buffarukus

pretty simplistic but if we remain mostly vague and scratch the outer surface can we get a clearer picture? if we look at the factions each side considers extreme. optics alone. one side is dressed head to toe in american flags and red ballcaps. the other is dressed head to toe in black with masks and umbrellas to cover their identities. their only symbolism seems to be rainbow flags now that were switched from blm flags. with no other context, what does that say? it says to me one believes they are fighting for the country while the other is fighting for causes that change dep on changing cultural social trends. if we look at policies in states. one side is seeing a mass influx of people and economic growth while the other is seeing population fleeing and economic decay as major legacy chains are announcing mass closings across them? things can obviously be broken down a ton but from a birds eye view things like this are a indicator of what is going on. if we talk about fundamentals of party. one is fighting for what they always have (whats really changed?). but the other. well, they are flipping alot of their CORE beliefs 180 to fight AGAINST those who they agreed with just a decade ago. seeing people as skin color and not a individuals being a major one. freedom of speech regardless if its agreeable. only one side looks at anyone who still believes in its past longstanding principals as a extremist and part of the opposing side now. I may have blindspots but the change i see from the right is actually in a more progressive way. trump acknowledged same sex marriage. stance on censorship is far more laxed now that they have largely been targets of it. unquestionable allegiance to US power war/fbi/cia ect.ect. these were leftist positions my entire life and now determine i am far right.

it can. but i guess we learned it won't. who can blame anyone when its government and media approved destruction. i mean when rioters are murdering the very people they are screaming lives matter and don't skip a beat. when they are destroying the very neighborhoods they say need the most help and the narrative is how peaceful it is. yeah i think your dealing with nothing but state sanctioned lunatics that are destroying with zero accountability or regard of purpose. the only thing that can truly stop that is the people who truley believed in the causes condemning and removing the rioters who used them as cover. that did not happen on a large scale. so the aggressors were repeatedly defined as the victims and anyone who stood up, gun or not, was going to be villianized and prosecuted under the full weight of the law. not alot of people willing to put themselves in that position. duck and cover and hope you have no choice because you WILL be risking your life regardless if you survive. on the other hand one gun and one bullet stopped the jan 6th riot. not alot of talk about mostly peaceful or murder of a unarmed person in the news on that. throw in prosecutions of anyone even close to the building and its safe to say you wont be seeing that type of "protest" /"riot" again any time soon. armed population would be MUCH more emboldened to step in front of that type of chaos. they know there is a medal prob waiting for their actions. i guess narrative is really is the main thread that holds civilized society together in the end because the country has alot more useful idiots then i could have imagined.

lol shows your reading comprehension. "how that works" was done in my post a few replies back dummy. i dont need to be backed into a corner to do that. you know onr of the replys you edited half a sentance out to make a idiotic point and attribute it to me when i never even came close to suggesting it. but i do notice you suddenly recognize individuals and not a entire groups. funny how that happens. anyways no. i won't do guns next and point out the overwhelming disparity in democrat strongholds that ignore daily mass shootings. we already know you will blame law abiding gun owners and "the right cult" for it. not in the mood. i think i made you look foolish enough for now. go to the playground with your friends. i have adult things to do.

gee golly @BillStime you did it again. you accidently became a half functioning idiot in yet another reply. since we are just putting our own narratives into what people actually say ill just google a story like you. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-10/california-teacher-of-the-year-hit-with-14-charges-in-child-sexual-abuse-case there we go. a democrat teacher given awards by you guys is a child predator? multi counts on child porn found. why do you celebrate teachers who have sex with their students? has anyone documented you and your cults dark urges or should i call someone? explain yourself. wow. pretty easy to be you buddy. no thought required.

you wont believe this but you accidentally edited out my words, meaning, and all context in the reply in the future please be more careful. it makes your attempt to earn a bull sh/÷ political point using the death of children extra pathetic. thanks.

i really do appreciate you being somewhat rational. though you skipped my explanation ill reply to this. your so close but something is locking you out of full understanding of the issue. you have never had to worry when you drop your kid off at school some insane right wing teacher was going to secretly take your kid to catholic church every day and leave them with a priest. the schools policy is shhh dont tell dad. he will not understand. we are doing whats best for you. you dont want to burn in hell right kids? if that was going on. example after example was shown. what would you do? seriously? id hope you would march in there and demand answers. want the people responsible fired immediately. something is very wrong here. you want reading math science. noone asked or signed off for religion in public school. thats what the parents are doing and are being labled as bigots. now imagine the narrative was your against all religion for this. your a anti-semetic, islamaphobic ect for simply demanding parental rights. we can go further. what if the state you lived in said if your kid believes in only 2 genders and you MUST agree. you are harming your kids mental health with dilusions on spectrum genders that go against basic science. the child should be removed from your care to prevent further misinformation and mental stress. that is the insanity in california at this point and time right now. simply flip the narrative and you can see how crazy this is. imagine how a regular history teacher who is simply teaching the different beliefs in different parts of the world as they done their whole career. they will inevitably get swept in your viscous "attacks" on religion. thats why i say this ideology is actually creating hate and division on the gay community more then ever. why @ChiGoose penguin book he uses alot and many other innocent people and examples are now being swept in. parents are on full alert and rightfully so..because its flat out wrong no matter what is being forced on other peoples children. parents are becoming OVER protective because the left simply wont see the problem they are creating and end it with this agreement. a large movement on anti bullying without all the creepy sexual gender pornographic stuff would be far move effective and universally agreed on. but for some reason it has to be this divisive and controversial way. just like blm absolutley could not be all lives and include all people who wanted police violence/reform and acknowledge PEOPLE with diff skin and backgrounds have dealt with brutality as well. hmmm why does this keep happening. anyways. if you as a parent were confronted with this ideology. i would be on your side to fight against it just the same. wrong is wrong. i hope i made sense so we can be on the same side...to all parents regardless of politics.

well its good to finally hear someone say it outloud. i addressed your right is "cool with" fully in another topic but exact same reasoning. here it is again. nobody is cool with catholic priests as predators. im not sure why society as a whole hasnt obliterated the catholic church for their crimes of pushing predators around but the left wasnt ralling much either. they use it as a scapegoat for their CURRENT stance. the issue is you have predators everywhere! so my question is does a ideology put children in position to be abused or groomed and why is that ADVOCATED by the left? i dont see the right saying YOUR children should be taught things by priests in secrecy. that priests should expose them to sexual/ gender things they are not fully aware of. that anyone who does not want that is a bigot against all religions. that laws preventing those things are evil. thats the issue. if what you say was true. the left is against the examples then there would BE NO BOOGIEMAN. we would agree that $#it is sick and should not occur under any circumstance. period. the left is saying we dont care we will do what we want to children regardless how similar position it is with pedophiles. keep secrets. teach about sex positions. show them toys. change their clothes and pronouns when they walk into schools. Cali they will TAKE your child if you dont affirm and you think those who refuse to denounce the examples you do are the minority of left!!?? the examples are all recent and continuing to pile up because these deranged people have PERMISSION to take it to extremes by a entire party of gov who ignore them. some even considered HEROs of LGBT. saving lives! so empathetic and brave. encouraging it.

why is it when i give leftist a full description of the issues they either A) cherry pick the reasoning of their choosing and ignore the rest or B) ignore it all together or completely deflect? ill address this with i dont think this language should be viewed by little children either. you put a language alert yourself so that says something. so since this is your comparison then i guess we agree. now anything to say on the rest of my reply?

based on actual metrics and not just pigment? content of character not color of skin? this was the rational thinking liberals used to know and i think everyone agreed on...except for racists.

its in schools and parents are saying i dont want them alone or teaching these kids (many times in absolute secrecy) about this stuff. you all are freaking out about that parents are fighting against this behavior. your on the opposite side of your own argument. noone on the right is arguing preists coaches or anyone should supercede a parent let alone advocating it is presented without their permission and complete transparency. if they are doing it then everyone on the planet is for kicking their a$$ and putting thrm in a cell. as for the drag queens shaking their junk in little kids faces thats self explanatory. if you dont see a clear issue with that then something is wrong. its disgusting regardless of sexual preference. if it was straight guys jiggling their junk would you still be for it? that answer reveals everything. do you now get a clear picture of the issue?

if you won them. they can never be lost. 1936 37 frontier lane champion is yours forever old timer.

pretty easy. stop scapegoating. stop exadurating. stop being such a ideological zombie and when a someone brings up sh!t the left is doing, if its fact then dont react with nothing but defensive deflections as if your earning a trophy. you can still rail against the right. theres plenty there.

here the "more training" leftists were screaming about as they tossed molotovs and ambushed officers. https://time.com/6260567/atlanta-cop-city-protests/ oh right they got into a gun fight with the cops that were building a training facility. on and on and on. but right wing ideology is dangerous to cops is the example you really went with. perfectly reasonable. lol.

are you serious? police deaths is your example? how many police assassinations during and after blm!!. leftist cheer on their murders all the time!! Protesters outside hospital shouted 'We hope they die' about deputies ... https://abc13.com/los-angeles-deputies-ambushed-compton-la-shot-protests/6422147/ forget it red. i asked you a question about direct grooming in another thread and the hate it produces that can easily be stopped. and as expected you as all other leftist ignore it. now your seriously comparing police deaths to ideology. your just gone. theres no reasonable discussion to be had.

ok that goes in two directions. i highly doubt a god loving "bible thumper" is deciding ahh the lust for a man is more important then thal shall not kill. but rhetoric wise. but political violence wise. you all point to jan 6 repeatedly where one of THEM were killed. its all you really got to point at. left wing on the other hand. plenty of examples including what i laid out... all ignored.

why? ideology killing innocents is the same regardless what is used. or is it because if you take what i said then the margin of victims is completely skewed towards liberal ideology. but ok. ill leave this fractional example as you see it. it makes no sense to debate such a specific thing when talking about dangerous beliefs that bring about destruction in society but certainly can find many more like the nyc train shooter if i look.

i dont think alot of people are keeping up. but im getting your overall argument now. well there have been several incidents involving left wing rhetoric that have caused mass killings...or are we talking specifically shootings. the left is constantly saying white people are racist. anyone who is not a democrat wants to see the annihilation of people of color and gay folks. so several incidents based on that ideology i can recall. mass shooting of christians by trans person...already brought up. mass shooting on the NYC subway train by a black supremist. the incident where the man drove a truck through a xmas parade killing kids and any white person in the path. should i go on. this was to fight against the "racist" they believe they were surrounded by. not only that but democratic ideology DOES factor into black on black mass shootings. hell today democrats give every excuse under the sun to ignore and mitigate black crime in general because that just what oppressed people are FORCED to do. dont blame them. its white peoples fault this is happening. lets not forget the ideology that now has police disregard black neighborhoods for fear of "over policing" or having a confrontation that results in loss of job and freedom and its totality. dems disregard the crime, prevention and apprehension. but its not based on politics? plays no factor?

bible thumpers are taking over the streets of democratic cities where most mass shooting occur every day? strange.

as interesting as it is, you decided to edit out the point. the direct correlation of pedophile tactics that relate to what the left is doing to other peoples children. you don't acknowledge it because your biased and would love to focus just on your ideological enemies psychology. "we are coming for your children" is based off love and understanding or something? i didnt know telling people who are concerned about the lefts infatuation with advocating identicle tactics groomers use to "f off" we are going to do it regardless was based on peace, love and understanding of parents who see extremely serious and dangerous tactics used on little kids. it literally means either they/you have sheltered yourselves from the sick proof that these things are going on or that your fully aware and approve of it. those are the only two options and there are so many examples at this point its really hard to force myself to believe the former. if its the latter then every fragment of hatred gotten is well deserved. there are plenty of posts in this forum showing examples of disgusting behavior construed by leftist as inclusion and understanding. are you unaware of it all.

those nazis you saw on the trail. oh um yea, just some white folk that are tired of being called racists. thats all. they are sick of being accused of racism so they went out and bought full ss uniforms to take the "power from those accusations" all nazis are these people. just people becoming what you keep saying they are. stop calling them nazis and they wont BE them. make sense? great. everyone can go back to being normal white people once you stop victimizing them. red. that is some really REALLY stupid reasoning. you see now that its flipped right? i laid out the REASONS the left and lgbt are being labled groomers. isolating kids with issues. recommending they go to strangers in secret. introducing disturbing sexual topics. making anyone who suggests they are far to young including parents out to be the enemy. not a single leftist refutes or condemns THESE behaviors. but sure are quick to decide "we are coming for your children" is perfectly normal and the fault of everyone else but the ones actually chanting it with context of whats going on.

what we see. what he see.

i clicked it. i feel the hatred coarsing in my bloodstream now. im indoctrinated!! there's no turning back for me. long live the reincarnation of hitl..oh wait they look like a bunch of soccer moms. these ladies looks very pleasant. no ominous eye patches or anything. @BillStime am i being misinformationed again? hurry up and pull some twitter facts before i end up at a bakesale then next thing i know im conquering europe to expand the master race. fresh sugar cookies with fudgy centers will rule the world!!!!

we have talked about this. you will never see or call out genuinely creepy behavior so don't be surprised when mundane things get swept in the tide of pushback. the left are the ones crossing the line and i have yet to hear why its ok for strangers to teach small children things that are clearly disturbing. then you stroll up and cherry pick the topics/examples and act as if that's ALL people have issues with. if your side would just call out what is genuinely wrong then the pushback wouldn't include anything resembling it like penguin books because we are in agreement..for once, but never that. so you keep looking past middle age twerkers and keep plucking the most innocent examples you need to defend it ALL. its disingenuous and a poor way to try to obfuscate what the real problem is.

what in the world? chi your on a tangent man. the issue i see with you on the topic in general is that you isolate yourself from the real world examples that are piled up and then pretend that the right is just hyping up and making up terrable things anything non "cis". did you even warch the OP. its ANOTHER example of many that i have seen posted to you in direct quotes. you either purposefully ignored or legitimately think are benign. you have a 50/60 year old man waving his butt in his crusty tighty whiteys with his junk just hanging around in direct view of little children acting as if he is displaying some great talent. please hold your applause kids for the encore of him rolling around and splitting his legs wide open and tip your waitress. i mean seriously. not a thought, hey there are alot of kids. maybe i should put on cloths or i dunno not gyrate in there faces. nothing like that crossing his or your heads especially with whats going on with all the right wing "they are eliminating us!!" rhetoric. a voice that says hmmm no i dont think i will represent who they say we are today. this is perpetuating a horrible stereotype that is hurting my community. nothing? the right is not imagining this is "two men holding hands" but you are ignoring it and trying to compare it to innocent behavior of two people in a relationship. heres a secret chi. dont let this get out but ALOT of parents dont want STRAIGHT people waving their junk in their kids faces like this guy is. straight guys prancing around in their underwear in the street in front of kids *looks both ways* psst yeah they get the cops called on them 100% of the time. even worse outcome once prisoners learn what put him in there. its looked at almost a universally by society. almost. they are def not a main attraction in a parade dedicated to their sexual preference. but.. you know...marginalized.

dont say gay is going to erase strangers employed by the state who think its their right to teach other peoples kids, VERY YOUNG KIDS, about gender and sexuality without full transparency to the parents. it should also be called "don't say straight" as it makes no mention of type of sex/gender that can be in a currriculum. just that its wrong and should not be pushed to meet a political leftist trend that aligns with a pedophiles playbook. but you know all this. it sounds rational unless you manifest a delusional lie about the evil transphobic parents and govenor who are out to eliminate those who are different from speaking. ahh now you can get a call to action to protect victims who do not exist. well scratch that.. protect "victims" who just happen to have a insatiable need to teach little kids about sex. very heroic. but you know all this. your on here alot and certainly have read the bill that you find so abhorrent. how many political brownie points have you earned pushing the narrative that you guys have created on here? its has to be a pretty decent hall the environment is parents willing to stand up agaisnt the insanity the left is pushing. if you think anything is "inevitable" that has to go through parents who have a biological instinct to protect their children regardless of cost to themselves your side can keep hurling insults and grouping them as bigots all you want. lol and im not bright? sure pal.