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Let's not go crazy and cherry pick or eliminate games from a sample size so it fits your point better.
And you're someone who constantly criticizes all the rumors and speculation you hear in the media and now you're citing them? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth my friend.
And I don't think getting rid of at least the last Jets game is remotely unreasonable.
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Let's not go crazy and cherry pick or eliminate games from a sample size so it fits your point better.
And you're someone who constantly criticizes all the rumors and speculation you hear in the media and now you're citing them? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth my friend.
Blah blah blah.
Do I actually need to explain why, in hindsight, those media reports appear credible?
It's not an all or nothing thing. Why do people here succumb so easily to extremes? You seem like a smart person... I'm sure you actually understand how naive it is to restrict anyone to your own absolute and rigidly defined ideologies. You should stop doing it. Just trying to be helpful.
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Okay, but the Patriots also had the #1 scoring Defense in the NFL and were #8 in yards... also quite relevant to this discussionwhy would you use a stat from a superbowl winning team vs a 7-9 team? I mean, does it really matter if the bills had a better 3 and out % then the patsies last season?
Wow!
Transplant exposed bigtime on this one...
Why? I didn't remotely respond to what Rodak even said because I didn't read it, so if I'm "exposed" because I chose to not read or respond to an issue brought up by a writer I generally don't like, then I guess you're right, but maybe this would be a more congenial place if more posters took that approach
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It goes both ways. Don't you think the defense would also benefit from the offense sustaining more drives and cutting down on the 3 and outs?
You are overstating the notion that the defense was constantly letting teams march down the length of the field. They were 18th in yards per drive.
The defense needs to be better. I don't pretend otherwise.
Aside from the last Jets game and the 1st 2 games after which Buffalo decided to get rid of Roman, who they were reportedly considering cutting ties with after 2015, the Bills were middle of the league in TOP and 3 & out %.
In fact, Buffalo lost 6 games in that 13 game stretch and in 4 of those 6 losses Buffalo won TOP and in 3 of those 6 games Buffalo had a better 3rd down %, including 1 individual 200 yard rusher and giving up an 18 point lead and allowed 29 points to be scored in a game.
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IIRC, the Bills' offense had the fewest turnovers in the league last year (by far), which obviously helps a defense's PPG considerably.
Really excellent point.
Wouldn't Buffalo have set some kind of record for fewest turnovers if not for the Manuel/Jones debacle?
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beyond that ... is he wrong?
I don't know. I didn't read what he wrote because he's a douche and I don't want to click the link and contribute to his living.
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So, interpolated over 16 games with Tyrod, Watkins would "average" about 1200 yards on 17.5 YPC? Those don't look like career-killing numbers to me. Sort of undermines the "Watkins wants out of Buffalo because Tyrod is trash" narrative, doesn't it?
And how many of the games Sammy's played with Taylor has he been fully healthy?
And still amassing that production...?
Honestly, I just can't believe people are acting like it's Sammy getting the short end of the stick here.
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Im my opinion no there are NOT a lot of qbs that could lead this team into the playoffs with a healthy Sammy and a top 10 defense
There are about 15
And they are all playing for other teams
So you think that if Sammy plays a full 16 games healthy and the Bills have a top 10 defense with Taylor they're likely to miss the playoffs...?
Hell they almost made the playoffs under that exact scenario with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton at the helm.
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It could be argued that a lot of QBs could lead this team deep in the playoffs every year with a healthy Sammy Watkins and a top 10 defense.
Sure, it could be argued that way, true.
But it's not like Sammy Watkins was some well-established vet in the NFL who's proven he can be an Elite WR. I love the guy's talent, but he's been massively underwhelming in the NFL based on expectations.
Still, it's notable that Sammy has split time almost exactly evenly between Taylor and the combo of Orton/Jones/Manuel with 19 games under Taylor (1 of those being a 1 catch 1st quarter injury in Miami in 2015 and out) and 18 under those other guys.
1398 yards, 73.6 yards per game, 17.5 yards per catch
1061 yards, 58.9 yards per game, 14.5 yards per catch
And sure, you could argue EJ and Jones really skew those numbers, and they do because Sammy did better with Orton. But he still only averaged 65 yards per game... 8 yards less than Taylor.
The point is not that Taylor is great or those guys are great measures. They point is you talk about Sammy as though he's some well established superstar... as though Sammy obviously was much more critical to Taylor's success than vice versa and I think it's awfully presumptuous to say that.
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It's a regular crusade by him, his name should be in the title with how many posts and words he has put into his work in this thread. SMH
I agree with many, Tyrod is just not good enough and needs to be replaced if we are ever going to be a playoff team.
Why are you being such a baby?
I've limited my Tyrod discussion mainly to this thread alone, which is one of 2 threads I've started on the subject of Tyrod.
You literally post all the same types of posts all the time that are full of complete hot air opinion. I'm fine with your position on the subject, but why do you jump into discussion if you don't even try to have a reasonable, intelligent discussion?
One cannot survive w/o the other it seems
http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills
Which players on each team have the most to prove in 2017?
Inconsistency has afflicted Tyrod Taylor as a passer, while Sammy Watkins needs to stay healthy, Mike Rodak writes.
Mike Rodak's a douche...
just putting that out there
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I'm sure Watkins has been pissed that his QB can't get him the ball more and utilize him beyond simple sideline routes and deep balls.
This guy will absolutely explode with a real passer throwing the football...it's a shame it will most likely be in another uniform.
Sammy played 19 total games with Taylor... and he was injured for a good number of them.
Despite that, in those 19 games, Sammy racked up 1400 yards despite leaving after his very first catch in the 1st Miami game last year and playing nearly half his other games injured.
If Sammy is traded, it's because we can get something for him and he's an injury waiting to happen or not even fully healed.
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are you flirting with me?
Flirting... aww shucks, and here I thought we were already an item...
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It could be, sure.all well and good.
however to express that you don't think it could be an expression of doubt of Taylor is.... (to be kind) nearsighted. the problem with shutting oneself off from possibilities is that chances are, you are going to be wrong.
thank you for the all worldly opinion, signed the middle schooler.
But you make it seem like it obviously is when it isn't.
All those explanations you replied to are reasonable.
Dude, just think of how much our last regime invested in a guy who's missed this many games in his first 3 years in the NFL?
You're acting like this all clearly goes back to Tyrod and calling other people nearsighted for not seeing that... kinda ridiculous.
Has no bearing is different from what they think of him in this case I think.so, if we are not being delusional,and if Watkins gets traded, it has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on Tyrod, says absolutely nothing about what they think of him. gotcha.
carry on wit your bad worldly self, nothing to see here in middle school land...
It's going to impact Taylor
BUT
That doesn't mean Taylor would be part of that decision, which seems like it's going to be much more of a business decision than Football decision.
Sammy isn't getting traded this year so I don't understand the point of the discussion
And if that's the case, Foxx is saying that demonstrates faith in Tyrod...
strange days a comin...
thanks.
i really don't mean anything derogatory with my curt responses. at times, i just don't have the time for a better thought out response and yet still on other occasions, i am just tired of the back and forth. besides, i think you know me well enough to know that generally, once i have stated something i may state it once or twice thereafter but that is pretty much it. i don't see a whole lot of sense in repeating the same tired refrains over and over again. even though all refrains are essentially the same when you boil them down i suppose.
:shrug:
I got it. I don't really care. I don't think you're malicious in your posting the way some posters are, which is why I put up with you
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If
Taylor + Watkins = success
Or if
Taylor - Watkins = no success
If this trade were true.... What message does it send?
I dunno... maybe they're saying we really want a certain level of QB who doesn't need a great WR to be successful so Tyrod, you think you're that guy and we think you might be but aren't spending more than this year to decide that, so here's your chance to prove it.
That's not me saying I think that's the level of QB Taylor is.
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you think a reasonable question on what the Bills must think of Tyrod if they trade away his best receiver is out in right field (is right field better than left field?) you may say that my thought is not well formed or expounded upon very well but not reasonable?? i think only if you consider Tyrod the heir apparent to Kelly that the thought must be threatening and therefore unreasonable. perhaps i am wrong?? whatever, i don't know if the rumor is true or not but i think it a reasonable question to ponder.
i think if they trade away Tyrod's best receiver it says that they really don't think much of his abilities. it prolly says something like, 'we know you need to be surrounded with the best players available in order to somewhat succeed. however, here's the thing ..., we don't want to just somewhat succeed, so we are going to make moves for the future when we will be drafting who we think will help us really succeed. at that point we will surround him with the best receivers we can obtain'. or something like that.
conversely, if they keep him, knowing that they may lose him with no compensation, whatsoever. that may say that they believe in Tyrod or at the very least are willing to roll the dice to see what Rico can get out of him in a new scheme. as you know, i don't think it much matters but, stranger things have happened.
this new staff we have seems like they have a plan so i don't think they are rolling the die here. it could be that they have plan A and plan B. if Tyrod fails to give them what they're looking for, they have plan B which involves two first round draft picks and a qb next year.
There's the man I know and love
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right, according to so many Tyrod supporters here, him missing was the reason why Taylor stunk last year. and if the rumor is true ... what does that say what they think about Tyrod.
What do you think it says?
You're really going into right field with this anti-Tyrod stuff... kinda strange considering the level-headed poster you typically are...
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Lynne's offense was still Roman's offense. The same offense he ran when he had a good season in 2015.
True... but play calling sure can make a world of difference...
Throwing a high percentage 3 yard pass on 3rd and 2 rather than a 30 yard pass you might also feel confident in is the biggest difference between Lynn and Roman...
PS: Hello
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and the defense was middle of the league in ppg.
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Weren't we bottom of the barrel in three and outs?
Not when Taylor was running Lynn's offense for 13. In those 13 games the Bills were middle of the league in both TOP and 3 & out %
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I'm very late to this discussion, and I admit I didn't read every response. So apologies in advance, if this has already been covered. 27 pages in, I expect this topic is probably been beaten to death by now, anyway.
The study by Fahey is a type of Content Analysis. But for a Content Analysis to be taken seriously as an evaluative tool, there needs to be more than one coder looking at the same content. The comparison of the coder's evaluations on the various data points, are then compared, to check for bias, mistakes and quite frankly, simply disagreements. The comparison is known as Intercoder Reliability. If the different coders disagree on the evaluation of too many data points, the study has a low intercoder reliability, and can be said to have limited value. I would argue, but some might disagree, if the intercoder reliability is 100% (or very close), the data probably wasn't very interesting to examine to begin with, or the coders shared a specific bias. Without the check of multiple coders, it's simply one guy looking at content variables, and giving his/her opinion.
With that said, I'd prefer an analysis by someone who carefully looks at data and has a very good record at evaluating the specific phenomenon, than someone who says "I know it when I see it", with no record in this area.
Yes. A system like that (almost exactly what PFF operates) would be better, but as imperfect as it is, it's not to be completely dismissed...
and it's also notable that PFF's system, much like the one you just mentioned, graded Taylor out as a pretty good QB, too.
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It's not an ironic post unless Peterman becomes something in the NFL the way Taylor did. Taylor is one of the very few exceptions, not the rule...I have to agree with this. calling out a 48 page thread for a 5th rounder. what round was taylor drafted again...?
that's right, 6th round. I'm by no means dogging taylor but it was just the irony of that post that caught my attention.
as for peterman, another one to cling to for those who think he'll be the next savior.
he doesn't impress me
And I love that someone will inevitably think that I just called Taylor a great QB or something when I said nothing of the sort.
Amazing is that you are practically calling NP a failure already.
Nope. Not what I'm saying.
Amazing that you got that from what I said...
and sad...
mostly sad...
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Creepy stalking based on a handful of times I've replied to you? Don't flatter yourself. If anything you should be thankful I find my way into your threads
And your obsession is not misconstrued.
Handful of times...?
Bruh... how many fingers you got on those hands.
And guaranteed both the strength and nature of my feelings about Taylor have been misconstrued.
If you don't believe me, tell me what you think everyone thinks and I'll tell you if you're right
oh, he'll make the team. he already see the field better than our current starter,
his ceiling might just be extremely high to boot!
Glad you found the next Great White Hope...
Watch out... Jones sounds like he's coming on...
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You shouldn't be the one to throw shade at a thread like this given your history of Tyrod threads being complete rubbish for dozens upon dozens of pages
May I ask why you bother?
Your creepy stalking criticism of any of my commentary and effort to tie it back to a misconstrued obsession with Taylor you think I have is just as sad as the misconstrued obsession you think I have.
Besides, truth doesn't change based on who says it...
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48 pages and counting for a 5th round draft pick who has his work cut out just to make the team...
amazing...
QB comparative data for Tyrod from Cian Fahey to discuss
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Nah. Not something I'll do right now. Completely understand the methodology, the point largely was the impact of the game on the team's average and how it was out of the general norm.
But 15 other teams had starters miss games (or be benched) in 2016, so if you look up NE, IND, ARI, PIT, OAK, MIN, DEN, Chicago, CAR, MIA, TEN, CLEV, LA, NYJ, and SF, you'll have your answer quickly