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5 hours ago, mushypeaches said:
He’s got to at least get to a SB. No QB since Warren Moon has made it without that criteria
No he doesn't. We're all going to be disgusted if Josh doesn't win a Super Bowl, let alone win one. However, I think 2 more years of the typical seasons he's had for the last 5 years makes him a shoe-in 1st ballot HOFer... Super Bowl or not.
And truthfully, I think if his career ended tomorrow (God forbid!!!) he'd still get in, but maybe not 1st ballot.
My argument?
Find a QB in NFL history who even comes close to the 5 consecutive year stretch Josh just had.
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I like this idea. One difficult thing to me is separating QB from situation. Are we ranking these guys in a vacuum? Tua in a Bruce Arians style offense might be bottom of the league while I think Allen would genuinely be able to operate at an excellent to Elite level in any offense.
I'm going to do my ranking in a vacuum, which I think is more interesting:
I'm also not doing 32. I'm not going to do rookies or 1st year players. Where would RG3 have ranked after 2012 vs where he ended up overall? So I guess I'm trying to treat this more holistically vs just last year.
1. Allen (I think he's been the best NFL QB for a few years now)
2. Mahomes
3. Stafford (this one's biased. 2022 version I feel better)
4. Baker (He balls at every stop no matter the situation)
5. Herbert
6. Lamar
7. Burrow (openly hates being under Center... he's scheme specific)
8 Goff
9. Dak (probably underrated and should be higher)
10. Hurts
11. Darnold
12. Stroud (overrated)
13. Purdy
14. Geno.
15. Fields (I really kinda want to put him higher)
16. Tua
17. Lawrence (so overrated)
18. Richardson/Dimes
19. Young
20. Flacco
21. Rodgers
22. Russell Wilson
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No they aren't. Prior to Keon's injury he was on pace for 800 yards and looked like a promising rookie. I think Joe Marino did a podcast recently outlining Coleman's pre injury stats compared with all the other rookies and he was top 3-5 by almost all metrics.
Nothing wrong with high expectations for him.
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Number needs to go at least 6 digits for me.
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Fred Jackson. I only have 2 jerseys in my wardrobe: Fred Jackson and Josh Allen.
I would swap James Cook with prime Fred Jackson in a heartbeat to play with Josh and this Bills team.
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Dude just got married in California. One would think he'd be forgiven for missing a week of voluntary workouts.
I think he's there but maybe just not tomorrow and they're saving the honeymoon for after mandatory minicamp.
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Legitimately happy for Josh. It's weird to feel so personally happy for someone I'll never meet or talk to, but somehow he's earned it.
As a tangent, The Ringer (I think that's the one) did a podcast on our (Bills fans) love affair with JA17. It's called "There’s Something About Josh Allen." Go listen to it if you haven't. It's hilariously true.
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4 hours ago, Virgil said:
As much as I’ve loved the last few years, it hurts a little to see that he’s already 29. It’s tough to feel like we haven’t wasted so many good years with him.
Happy Birthday king
I agree to an extent. In the end we haven't won the Super Bowl.
But let's be honest about something here... Josh Allen is already a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. He's earned that status with what I bet will be looked back on as maybe the best 5 consecutive years a QB has ever played individually.
No matter what happens in terms of team success for the Bills, we're incredibly lucky to have a generational talent who also happens to be an incredible person as the Face of our Franchise and the guy who largely is responsible for our new stadium being built.
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Way to go Dion!
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I will watch it and love it while I'm watching.
I also hate this.
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On 5/9/2025 at 2:35 PM, LEBills said:
Bills Bengals SNF Week 1 is my guess
The Buffalo Plus folks said this was the rumor today. Sounded like they had sources.
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On 5/9/2025 at 5:15 PM, Blank Stare said:
I hope he plays like Max Crosby, but, from a looks perspective, I can’t decide on who Landon Jackson reminds me of most - Xerxes from 300, Styr from Game of Thrones, Agent 47 from the Hitman video game, other? Just can’t put my finger on it.
I'm guessing you've never watched Barry.
He's NoHo Hank and I'll never be able to get it out of my head when I see him.
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Ummm... he's #31 though
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God.... I wish you guys would not post these threads. Go hop in @Royale with Cheese 's thread.
I want a Super Bowl so bad.
1st and 2nd rule of Bills winning a Super Bowl....
Don't talk about Bills winning a Super Bowl!!!
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1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said:
you are not gaining 2025 with the extension! He’s under contract.
You are talking about “what really matters” but you were previously talking about how these extensions affect the cap. I just demonstrated that it doesn’t matter how you spin it, you are getting these players at their 2025 value regardless and then their cap implications is exactly what it says on the tin.
Huh? What are you even arguing dude?
The Bills can sign him to an extension and actually lower his 2025 CAP. In fact, that would inevitably be the result and one of the primary motivating factors.
If you don't understand that, please Google some combination of "NFL Contracts" and "CAP" and "signing bonus prorated."
1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said:Saying James Cook is signed for 4 for 12.5M AAV is total optics.
The reality is that not extending Cook means he has a cap hit of $5M in 2025.
Extending Cook at 3 for $45M means that he still has a cap hit of $5M in 2025 and then $45M spread out over the next 3 years (unless void years are used).
Including his existing 2025 cap number to make his contract seem less than what it truly is, is probably the best example of “optics” possible.
We have seen this the other way too. Jeudy had a massive guarantee number on his reported extension with Cleveland because they included his fifth year option guarantee of $13M that was present regardless. It made his agent look good. It was irrelevant to the reality.
Annnnnnnd it's clear you understand the CAP even less than I do. I'm no expert, but so much of what you say demonstrates you haven't even tried to understand the CAP.
Cook's $5m CAP hit in 2025 would be lowered with an extension because that $5m would go away with the signing bonus and then his 2025 CAP hit would change to base salary (almost certainly vet minimum) plus signing bonus divided by 5.
If you don't understand that, look it up.
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9 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:
Giving them signing bonus money is not equivalent to their cap hit.
Bernard signed a deal reported for 4 for $42M.
His cap hit for 2026, 2027, 2028 and 2029 equals….. $41.6M. With a void year worth $1.3M in 2030.
So his cap hit over his 4 year extension, not including 2025, is exactly what his deal was signed for.
There’s a reason why your mirage doesn’t work and no one says that. It isn’t a 5 year deal. He’s under contract in 2025 regardless.
No one says DK Metcalf really signed a lesser deal because he was technically under contract for 1 year left.
He signed a 4 year extension for $42M with 1 year left on his deal. He didn’t sign a 5 year deal for $42M.
You're right, but an by its very definition an extension just creates a new contract including what's left with the old one, correct? So DK Metcalf now has 5 years remaining on his contract. The extension is literally just taking what's left of the old contract and extending it.
Your DK example in your last sentence would have been accurate if you adjusted the numbers for this year.
Or is it the signing part some of you are up in arms about?
James Cook might sign a $15mAAV extension for 3 years at $45m, but his actual contract would be 4 years at $50m for $12.5m AAV.
The 1st number is more optics. The 2nd number is probably what really matters
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15 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:
I think you have the mirage part backwards.
the extension doesn’t factor in this season because they are already under contract. You aren’t getting an extra year, they are already here.
There’s a reason this isn’t done by anybody, including agents and that’s a good thing.
Do you want Cook’s agent to say, “well, technically a 3 for $45M is really like 4 for $50M so we want an extension at 3 years for $55M?”
Did we give Bernard and Shakir signing bonus money already or not? If we didn't and no money towards the new contract is allocated towards the player until next year then your line of thinking makes sense. However, we both know that's not the case and the contract actually starts in many ways this season, which would include any CAP savings we get from it. Oh, and extending Cook would give us more CAP savings this season than any of our other extensions.
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55 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
He is, period.
Plus, while we speak in averages, it wont be $15M every year. If anything, it will help our cap situation over the next couple of years.
Even Barkley's big $20M/yr deal has him with only a $6M hit in 2025. Funny enough, Henry who everyone references at "$8M/yr" will hit closer to $13M this year and have the Ravens at the biggest spenders on RB in 2025.
Here are the top spenders on RBs, all the teams I could grab in one screenshot. Buffalo is currently at 18th. If we want to continue to have a top Offense, we will have to come up from that and keep the top talent we have.
With the rest of the guys on the roster, we could pay Cook and still stay in that top 3-6 range. Not having to take the top spot and biggest spend.
Cook is scheduled to make $5m this year because of the 4th year rookie performance bonus.
Just like the Bernard and Shakir contracts, any extension signed will be partially a mirage because it doesn't factor in this coming season.
If we sign Cook to a 3 year $45m extension like he wants, it will actually be a 4 year $50m contract.
That's $12.5m AAV.
He's worth that and I actually think the fact we did nothing to the RB room indicates we're heading towards an extension.
And as Greg Tompsett always likes to point out, there will be an out midway through the deal if we want to move on.
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Isn't he injured? Can a player be released when rehabbing from an injury without a settlement?
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17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I think it's because I have more faith in Josh Allen than EJ Manuel.
I'm guaranteeing this will be bumped several times if I'm wrong. But I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
We all want you to be right.
Note last season was my first year biting my tongue on the Allen MVP conversation and look what happened.
I absolutely won't be predicting anything about the end of this season.
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8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I don't know what's been going on with me since the draft but I get this weird, like small butterfly feelings in my stomach thinking about the upcoming season.
This has never happened to me before. Usually I lose interest in football after the Bills are out, gain it back right before draft and free agency....then think about other things until late July.
But it's early May and I have the same exciting feeling the Saturday eve before the opener...which means it will take forever in my head for the season to get here.
I think they do it this year....I really do.
Any of you feeling weird like me right now?
And no, I'm not drunk.
Am I high? Maybe.
Wow... for all the crap you've given me over the years for making predictions, I'm gonna have to remember this prediction if we don't win the Super Bowl.
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I mean... for reference from the 2021 draft:
26th player for Daniel Jeremiah:
Junior
Moore is an undersized wideout with outstanding versatility, quickness and toughness. He has experience lining up outside, in the slot and in the backfield. He has excellent quickness in his release and is clean/crisp at the top of routes. He gets a lot of quick hitters, and he's very elusive after the catch. He also makes some huge plays over the top, tracking the ball naturally and showing reliable hands. He is effective when used as a runner out of the backfield, too. He hits the hole full-go and can make defenders miss. Overall, Moore lacks size, but he'll be a stud in the slot and can also help in the return game.
35th player for Dane Brugler:
STRENGTHS: Balanced athlete with the ability to gear up/down and accelerate out of his cuts…runs routes with tempo and controlled urgency…quick-thinking, decisive ball carrier to set up moves and force missed tackles…able to win vertically with sluggos or double-moves…quick to reach his route depth, calm his feet and
give his quarterback a clean target…strong hands with excellent focus at the catch point (credited with only one drop on 101 targets in 2020)…looks comfortable going across the middle of the field…short, but not small with firm muscle definition…not shy lowering his pads to barrel through tackle attempts…emerged as the featured playmaker in the Ole Miss offense, breaking AJ Brown’s school record for receptions in a season (86).
WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal height/length for the position…a few branches missing from his route tree, primarily in the intermediate part of the field…production was inflated by scheme, which created open opportunities for him…unproven as an outside receiver and didn’t face much press in the slot, allowing him to free release…few examples on tape of him winning contested windows downfield…inexperienced and inconsistent blocker, missing landmarks and struggling to sustain…earned an immature label after his urinating dog touchdown celebration (November 2019) in the final moments of the Egg Bowl led to Ole Miss falling to Mississippi State. [44]
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Ole Miss, Moore was a high-volume slot/backfield target in head coach Lane Kiffin’s up-tempo spread scheme. He thrived with quick, underneath throws (jet sweeps, screens, slants, etc.) and took advantage of being force-fed the football, leading the SEC in catches (10.8) and receiving yards (149.1) per game in 2020. Moore plays fast, decisive and dependable and can be used as a matchup receiver in space, tracking the ball and making defenders miss. He was more of a specialty receiver in college and has plenty to prove as a downfield target. Overall, Moore doesn’t have the tape of a well-rounded receiver, but he is an athletic and controlled route runner with strong hands. He projects as a flexible chess piece who can be as productive as his volume.
GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 35 overall)
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How could the Bills play NY at 1 pm on Thanksgiving? That slot is etched in stone for the Lions.
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A sincere thank you
in The Stadium Wall
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I was a fan of the original BBMB, too. But with mostly all the same posters here (save a handful after the great split of 2020... oh how I miss you @Foxx) it was an easy transition.
A thanks to everyone for welcoming us in.
What year did BBMB close anyway? Gotta be over a decade at this point