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I actually teared yp watching this. And I love watching Allen watch it. Dude is so genuine. We're so lucky to have him.
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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I mean you could say every player deserves it more than a fan because they put their bodies on the line.
but Josh Allen deserves a SB more than the guy who tailgates with me who never missed a game since they played in the rock pile? It still is the Buffalo Bills and it’s not just about one player. Allen would tell you the same thing.
As I said in that very same post I edited right after I posted the question for you... (and ironically, thank you for supporting my point in your own post):
Do you watch this kid play while you sit on your couch eating chops and drinking beer every week?
There are players in the NFL who don't really care much about the fanbase and maybe care more about money and fame...
I'm sorry but Allen is a rare breed of player who is basically voluntarily carrying the weight of an entire fanbase and the history of an entire team on his back.
If you think that's a weird take go eat more chips and drink more beer.
3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:Because Bills fans have been dealing with pain for DECADES. And paying our hard earned money to do so.
Josh, while we love him, has been at it for 7 years and is getting paid $250M. Cmon. It's not even close who deserves it more, and I'd bet both Josh and McD would agree.
And I'll just repost:
Do you watch this kid play while you sit on your couch eating chops and drinking beer every week?
There are players in the NFL who don't really care much about the fanbase and maybe care more about money and fame...
I'm sorry but Allen is a rare breed of player who is basically voluntarily carrying the weight of an entire fanbase and the history of an entire team on his back.
If you think that's a weird take go eat more chips and drink more beer.
3 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:The bolded portion, no doubt. "Allen deserves it more than Bills fans" or something like that? WTF
Yes. See above
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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Weird take.
How so?
Do you watch this kid play while you sit on your couch eating chops and drinking beer every week?
There are players in the NFL who don't really care much about the fanbase and maybe care more about money and fame...
I'm sorry but Allen is a rare breed of player who is basically voluntarily carrying the weight of an entire fanbase and the history of an entire team on his back.
If you think that's a weird take go eat more chips and drink more beer.
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11 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Your curse on the Josh Allen MVP train is real.
The first year you don't open the season with the thread, our guy brings it home.
Please don't start one next year lol
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This takes the sting away a little bit.
Now go get your Super Bowl Josh... you deserve it more than Bills fans do. You've bled, cried, put your body on the line, played with a broken hand/sprained UCL, etc.
You're the Iron Man of the NFL and embody WNY.
You got your belated but much deserved recognition and are etched in as a 1st ballot HOFer.
Now go get the Trophy!!!
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18 minutes ago, london_bills said:
Tell me it's not just this..
It's not
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This takes the sting away a little bit.
Now go get your Super Bowl Josh... you deserve it more than Bills fans do. You've bled, cried, put your body on the line, played with a broken hand/sprained UCL, etc.
You're the Iron Man of the NFL and embody WNY.
You got your belated but much deserved recognition and are etched in as a 1st ballot HOFer.
Now go get the Trophy!!!
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Talk about irony
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2 hours ago, Saint Doug said:
Unfortunately voting occurred after the game, but the KC game just highlighted what Josh means to this team. Outside of Josh, we have few, if any, high impact players. Maybe Cook, but beyond him…nothing.
I love Bruce Nolan's breakdown of tiers of "dudeness" ("A" , "The", "That") in his show today and would encourage everyone to listen because he also has a really interesting explanation of why OL and DBs don't count because they are in "link systems."
If Bills fans don't listen to this show every week (it only comes out once a week on Thursdays), they should.
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2 hours ago, JohnNord said:
I’ll say this. NFLN replayed the Patriots-Eagles Super Bowl and it made me wonder whether Keon could turn into an Alshon Jeffrey-type WR. Jeffrey was noticeably more physical but most of his catches were contested in tight coverage. He wasn’t getting much separation and passes weren’t perfect but he found a way to make the catch.
In looking at his stats, he usually put up around 700-800 yards and was a solid target.My hope is that Keon can turn into this type of receiver.
What I also noticed is that there were at least 3 catches made this game (maybe more) that were more challenging that the ball that Dalton Kincaid. No excuses. Big time players need to make plays.
Keon was on pace for about 800 yards before he got injured.
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3 hours ago, Big Turk said:
If he wants to take a discounted rate to stay then fine...I am not allocating major resources to a WR on the wrong side of 30. Just doesn't make good financial sense. None of that stuff matters. The chance he stays productive versus falling off a cliff is basically a coin flip. Also injuries become more and more of a concern every year over 30.
Well what's a discounted rate to you? Anyone saying veteran minimum just doesn't want him at all.
I think $8-$10m AAV would be fair and realistic for both sides.
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7 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Cooper is going to be 32 next year...as much as you'd like to think he will be the same player, he likely won't be...Father Time is undefeated. Don't pay premium prices for declining assets. Same reason people who buy brand new cars are fools.
No... he turns 31 on June 17th.
Cooper has an unbelievable work ethic that's been widely covered by his previous coaches. I still think he has a few more productive years left.
Plenty of WRs have been very good into their mid 30s and Cooper is still just in his early 30s.
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10 hours ago, Pete said:
Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season
82 catches on 112 targets for 1147 yards and 7 TDs- thats a great rookie WR season. Not Keon, though, Ladd McConkey- they WR we passed on. Thats a good season. 7 catches in last 21 attempts- that is a pathetic rookie season!
also, they say this is the deepest RB class ever. I love Ty, and would like him back. But if he gets paid elsewhere, Im happy for him. Draft his replacement
Keon was on pace for about 800 yards before he got injured in the 2nd Dolphins game. That's a good rookie season. That's a Gabe Davis year 3 and year 4 season.
Ummmm.... 82 catches for 1147 yards and 7 TDs is a GREAT rookie WR season... maybe historically great.
You have ridiculous expectations if that's what you think a rookie WR should get.
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5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
My gut instinct is to to thumbs down this post. It's my belief that we didn't have enough firepower on the Outside to go band for band against KC and that's the main reason we lost.
On the other hand - it's been reported that Amari Cooper was playing through Wrist injury that required surgery:
If that's the case, it would explain why he was used so sparingly. If with surgery and a full offseason with the team, they planned on using him as a full time starter - I'd be open to bringing him back. But only in that situation.
If that were the case though and they were running it back with a healthy full time Cooper, they had better do something huge in the Defensive Line and/or the Secondary.
Yes the injury is w n at I reference in the post and it's really what made me think getting the band back together would be a good idea.
He just had 1250 yards last year with Cleveland QBs throwing to him so there was no evidence of decline at that point.
He's also a Pro's Pro and might be helpful for Keon this offseason.
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2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
Nah we need a playmaker at WR. Someone that’s going to command a double team. If they can find upgrade to Mack Hollins or Amari Cooper they should do it
Sounds like someone who will also command the ball.
Allen is too much of a People pleaser. Amari had the perfect attitude.
The guy had 1250 yards in 15 games with an ADOT of over 14 yards in 2023.
Keep Cooper if the price is less than $10m AAV
2 hours ago, K D said:And the defense? They have been historically bad in the postseason.
And I don't see how anyone would think we should sign Cooper. That guy is washed.
I see that you're one of those folks who reads the title and nothing else.
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and focus on Defense almost entirely.
UFAs: Amari Cooper, Reggie Gilliam, Ty Johnson
Over a week to reflect on that loss and the personell on our team is pretty clearly lacking on Defense, not offense.
OL: 100% set. I don't even see a single OL from the 53 man roster who won't be on there again next year.
For all the criticism Beane has been getting, applaud him for a pretty awesome OL... both starters and depth.
QB: obviously it's JA17 and who cares other than maybe money and who gives him the best vibes.
TE: set. Knox and Kincaid are pretty much roster locks. Morris and Davidson can fight it out for TE3 even though it'll probably be Morris.
RB: obviously Cook and Davis. Team loves Gilliam so I assume they're going to work something out. Ty Johnson is the wildcard. He was honestly really good this year and might be the only offensive player we're going to see leave. I do think Ray Davis has a similar skillset and if he absorbed anything from Ty, I hope it's pass blocking. Hope Cook absorbed that, too.
(Side note: extend Cook and create an offense that is Cook-centric in BOTH the run and pass game the way Thurm was in the 90s)
Wide Receiver: Here's the one everyone is up in arms about, but after McBeane's presser I feel differently.
Shakir is great and I hope Beane finds a way to lock him up long term on a deal good for both sides. He's obviously Josh's favorite target and they have great chemistry that can grow.
Samuel is on the team, contractually. He flashed when he was healthy. If he can stay healthy, he has great separation skills and speed.
Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season and getting better up til he got hurt. Then we all heard McBeane's comments. They had their exit interview and told Keon what they needed to. Work hard in the offseason (with the next 2 dudes) Keon.
Mack Hollins seems like a guy who isn't chasing money. Sign him, please. Awesome special teamer who legitimately plays the WR position well and has awesome perspective for the other guys.
Amari Cooper is the most controversial, but I think we should keep him. He was playing with a wrist injured enough that doctors said he could use surgery. First thing about him is his attitude. He's the anti-WR... just listen to his interviews. And he seems to love Buffalo. I heard someone say he's estimated at $15m per year? That's too much. I also doubt that's reality. I could see us re-signing him to a 2 year $18-$20 million deal and I'd be good with that. In the 90s Buffalo traded for a #2 WR who was 33 years old and that worked out pretty well. I think a healthy Amari Cooper with a full offseason with Buffalo would make for a much improved WR corps on its own.
At that point, it's playcalling not personell.
It's on you Brady!
GO BILLS!!!
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On 1/31/2025 at 2:55 PM, Trogdor said:
Idk, I think a lot of this is drought shock. We would never give a pass to coordinators on other teams with 1.5yrs on the team and experience before that. The staff is meh and the roster is bad. I even see people give Beane a pass like this team isn't void of playmakers outside of like 2 guys.
Yes... a bad staff and meh roster just won 13 regular season games and 2 playoff games and lost by 3 points in their final game.
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59 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:
Getting there is one thing but at the end of the day they didn't win.
I think we would all take Josh Allen in a postseason game against someone other than Patrick Mahomes
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Wanna know the hardest part of this offseason for me?
This offseason we have to pretty definitively resign ourselves to the fact that Allen will never be considered a better QB than Mahomes.
I'm sure a lot of people reached that point in previous offseasons, but at this point in their careers Allen isn't making Super Bowls and winning 3 or 4 of them while Mahomes doesn't make any.
The best we can hope for is that Allen becomes the Peyton Manning / Big Ben to Mahomes as Tom Brady.
I understand most would accuse me of putting the cart in front of the horse, but I still firmly believe Allen will hoist a Lombardi as a Buffalo Bill. I just used to think it would be more than 1... now it's just a hope.
I know that was a tangent... but I spend too much time listening to a variety of national sports shows as podcasts and what not inthe offseason and I'm sick of the "Mahomes is the best QB I've ever s÷n" talk mainly because it's true in a time when we have a QB who might have been talked about as that guy if he weren't playing at the same time.
I will surf in the offseason. A lot.
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3 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:
Too bad history is against them.
Since 1977, just two coaches have won a first Super Bowl after having been in the job for more than five years, Cowher and Reid. In that time coaches like Reid (with the Eagles), Jeff Fisher, Lovie Smith, Mike Smith, Ron Rivera, Marv Levy, Marv Lewis, Dennis Green, Chuck Knox, John Fox, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, Sam Wyche, Jason Garrett, Jack del Rio, Jim Mora and others have had 5+ year spells with teams that have yeilded nothing.
How many of those teams had future 1st ballot HOF QBs in their prime?
I see Marv with Jimbo and Reeves with Elway.
Both of those guys at least made it to multiple Super Bowls with that QB. Reeves even coached Vick and the Falcons to a Super Bowl.
Wyche coached Boomer Esaison (not a HOFer) to a Super Bowl.
Rivera coached Newton to a Super Bowl.
John Foxx coached Jake Delhomme to a Super Bowl.
History would be on the side of still getting there.
And we wouldn't be playing the Chiefs for the Trophy in that game...
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3 hours ago, Trogdor said:
Idk, I think a lot of this is drought shock. We would never give a pass to coordinators on other teams with 1.5yrs on the team and experience before that. The staff is meh and the roster is bad. I even see people give Beane a pass like this team isn't void of playmakers outside of like 2 guys.
I take it you're one of those in the "fire everyone and tear everything down!!!" boat then?
Joe Brady is 35 years old and just called plays for a historically efficient offense.
Apparently some are poo-pooing the incredible way our offense avoided negative plays, but they are also the only offense in NFL history to pass and rush for 30+ TDs.
I put blame for the loss on the shoulders of the coordinators exponentially more than McDermott. For me, that's incredibly encouraging considering both just finished their 1st year implementing their systems in Buffalo as play callers.
I don't understand you
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1 hour ago, Trogdor said:
So a seasoned OC with already half a season with this team.
1st full year as a coordinator and 1st opportunity in Buffalo to implement his own offense.
Allen wins MVP
in The Stadium Wall
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I didn't say he deserved it more than Dawkins, Milano or McDermott. Weird bit of misdirection there.
But I stand by what I said... not your strange altered version of what I said.