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My only problem is that it puts pressure on this staff to win now. People may sour on McDermott and Taylor very early this season, and nothing I have seen from Taylor makes me think we will do any better next season. The defense is still going to have major holes, and we still won't have money to upgrade much of this roster that needs it.
This is a win since Taylor ended up taking less money, I'll agree with that. I don't know how it helps otherwise.
Did Taylor end up taking less guaranteed money?
A lot of people are talking as though this restructuring just involved converting salary to a signing bonus... I don't know if Taylor's actually getting less...
it'll be nice when those details actually come out, though.
I won't be surprised, either way.
Just glad the inevitable actually happened and we can move on to actual future football discussion rather than speculation about what might happen or discussion about whether Taylor should or should not be our QB in 2017. He is and it seems clear that McDermott and Dennison like him and feel they can win with him.
I just still think it's funny that there were so many people who were so confident he wouldn't be our QB moving forward...
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Here's a better stat, and Ill quote myself again:
Since 2015, the Chiefs are 15 - 1 in games where they score 25 points or more.
Since 2015, the Bills are 9 - 8 in games where they score 25 points or more.
Fix the defense. Make the playoffs.
Andrew Luck is 25-0 over his career when the Colts have held the opponents under 20 points.
Taylor only has 1 loss when his defense holds opponents under 20.
Our D needs to improve.
well, Tyrod proved to be the upstanding young man i always thought he was. regardless of reports that he wasn't open to taking a penny less, he did so for at least this year, for the benefit of the team. i still am curious what the commitment to him is for the two year period. being that, right now we have ample cap room for '18, i'm thinking he has a larger deadcap hit than he originally had for '18. i hope the actual details come out soon.
that being said, i am still not sold on him as a passing QB. he still has too many deficiencies that he had back in college that haven't been rectified in the 7 years since he left. i am not very confident that he will ever overcome them. especially in a WCO where he will need to throw over the middle and anticipate where the receiver will be before he gets there. hopefully a better coaching staff, in particular Dennison, will be able to manage him to maximize the play.
I'm still confused about this.
Did Taylor take less money or not? From what some people in this thread are saying it sounds like he's going to get the same amount of money, but a bunch of his salary from this year is being converted to a bonus...
I'm lost on NFL contracts.
Can someone, when they find out, simply post the money Taylor is guaranteed with this new contract?
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Or him and his agent took feelers for his value and it wasn't what they thought, so they took what they thought was the best they were going to do.
It's funny how many were so sure Taylor would make as much if not more on the open market, but he let the Bills leave him twisting in the wind while deciding his fate on a lesser deal. That tells me he wasn't as in demand as many thought (including you). He wouldn't have passed up his 40 million guaranteed over the next two years for this if he thought he could do close to or better than that...you're in denial if you believe otherwise.
I said I would be fine with Taylor on a bridge deal that paid him around 10 mil for two seasons, and now he's right in line with that, so at least he's being paid accordingly now...near the bottom for starting QB'S, which he is.
I'm a bit better with this outcome because there is no way he was worth what he was due under his other deal, but I still believe this puts Taylor and the new coaching staff in the cross hairs right away. Things could go south really fast, but this is what they decided to go with, so time to hope for the best.
Wow... you're still clinging on trying to be right in some way?
Honestly, you're really reaching at this point...
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Nothing happened to the option bonus--it's still there.
So Taylor's getting all the same money he was getting before? No pay cut?
Oh man... Thurman#1 is going to be really unhappy that something he thought couldn't possibly happen did...
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PFR has him at 7 fumbles unrecovered.
It's wrong... go look at NFL.com at his 2015 and 2016 game logs.
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Didn't TT have 7 fumbles and 12 picks?
He said 15 turnovers... 12 picks... 3 lost fumbles.
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Sounds like they converted $7m of his $12m 2017 salary to a bonus. What happened to the $15m option bonus? Is he really getting a $22m bonus?
I really want to know whether Taylor took a paycut or not... if he did, awesome because he's really being a team guy. But I thought all the reports said he wouldn't.
As these contract details come out, it's going to be interesting to see how much guaranteed money Taylor's getting and if it's gone down from what it was.
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Awwww mannnnnnn I really wish BBMB was still around for this announcement. Feels like I'm missing out big time!
A couple of the usual guys are in here complaining...
Hint: "QB purgatory..." / "Failey" / "Fitz 2.0"
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So what's the total in guaranteed money?
What are the details after year 2?
Anyone know the details?
I'm loving that Taylor is thinking about winning rather than money. In the end, he's still set for life. I'm wondering Woods is next in line to re-sign.
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Six mil.....get Woods Re-Signed now!
Taylor's really a team guy. Seems pretty clear from the moment the offseason began and he publicly stated he was willing to rework his deal. This offseason was set up to be just one long game of chicken, in a sense. I'm glad Taylor flinched first and it looks like he cares more about winning than money, which he would have gotten on the open market.
Woods, hopefully, is next in line. Let's draft another WR high and improve the weapons on offense... maybe they can stay healthy, too.
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I agree but I think this could be the first step to set up a trade but if they are stupid enough to go all in on Tyrod they better hope they do great or this new staff and Whaley are dead man walking in 2018. Tyrod is Tyrod so I don't expect any different, last staffs fail equaled a coordinator fired year one, same old Bills I agree I expect the drought hitting 20 sadly, but at least it gets Whaley out of here sadly it's a new coaching staff as well.
I know you're upset, but I think you're clinging onto an incredibly unlikely last string of hope. I don't think McDermott would have come out with that statement if he wanted Taylor traded...
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We'll pass on a QB in the draft. Taylor will be the same guy next year. We'll be "in the hunt" in November and out of it by December. McDermott will want to win meaningless games, and we'll win enough to not have the ammo to draft a good QB in next years draft. The drought will definitely hit the 20 year mark, and I bet it gets to 25. This is freaking awful. Just awful.
Or McDermott could add 3 or 4 wins to the team by being a better coach than the last guy and the Bills having something better than a below average defense.
The Bills could have won 10 games in 2016 if not for Rex and a terrible Defense. And that's with Tyrod Taylor playing as he was in 2016, which was as a slightly below average starting NFL QB.
Imagine if Taylor can improve even a little and our coaching and Defense improves a bit more... ?
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I hope someone posts an actual thread about the specific details of the entire restructured contract.
Is it a restructure?
Is it a pay cut?
What is it?
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Now the fun actually begins...
I think it's hilarious that anyone, when looking objectively and not emotionally at this entire situation, actually believed it was very likely or even likely that Taylor wouldn't be back in Buffalo.
That said, I don't know the terms of the restructure, but I wish Buffalo just kept him on his current contract because unless Taylor took a paycut (which I don't believe he did), this just kicks the can of Cap money down the road.
On a side note, this move alone says something about the way Buffalo actually feels about Tyrod Taylor's ability to play QB. And that something seems to be a far cry from the lost media and so-called "experts."
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This is all just so entertaining...
I actually LOVE that BBMB closed down when it did because I'm not about to dive into a new board head first and gunz blazin, so I'm enjoying watching all the speculation unravel and starting fresh on Sunday...
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Nah. He was OK, they just rely on him too much.
And to your question...I have a feeling you think it's rhetorical, which says to me your mind is made up on the subject.
Actually, it's not.
Isn't this a place for a fresh start and no preconceived notions?
I know you have them about me, as do others, but try throwing some of them out the window... they aren't all right.
Bortles vs. Tyrod is actually, for me, an interesting question.
I'd honestly be more excited about snagging Bortles than going out and getting Glennon or Cutler. I think last year was just a really down year for him.
I still would prefer to keep Taylor in an "as is" situation rather than going out, negotiating, offering a new (higher...?) contract to him.
But in a vacuum, between the 2 QBs, I really don't know for sure which I'd rather have.
no way! i'm playing dodgeball!
i'll still talk to you guys though. just dont spill anything on my new letterman jacket.
The dodgeball game is always over there to play when we're ready... there's just no need to tear down the tetherball set when it's not interrupting anything.
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As bad as Bortles was this season his numbers are close to Taylors. Bortles only minus is he threw more ints
And how much of those "numbers" were accumulated in garbage time?
Bortles didn't merely throw more ints, he threw almost triple the ints and also fumbled the ball 3 times more than Taylor.
I've really noticed that protecting the football is something folks who want Taylor gone are rather dismissive about.
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Why do you guys insist on keeping that place alive? It's over. Love it or hate it, that was then and this is now. Time to move on.
Do people over here at TBD really have a problem with this thread going?
For me, it's a good way to assimilate into a new message board because we're finding familiarity in a new place. Personally, I think keeping one BBMB thread up should be acceptable. Merge the rest of them into this one if need be. I'm happy to be here but we're the new kids in the schoolyard... let us hang out over in the corner playing tetherball with each other before we join in for dodgeball.
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Bortles has all the tools. Honestly, his second year was good. This year not so much. I have no idea what is up in Jacksonville because they seem very talented....till they get on the field. Let's see what Saint Doug does with him.
Am I bitter? Yeah, I was bitter for getting banned, but that wasn't your fault.
Fair enough. Bortles was an absolute train wreck this year. He would have been better than Manuel, obviously, though.
But here's a better question for me to gauge your feelings:
Bortles or Tyrod?
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Do you remember me? I remember you. I remember how stupid you said I was for concluding EJ was a bust before week 8 of his rookie year? Do you member? I member.
Anyways, water under the bridge...I just couldn't not bring it up.
So I see you grew bitter over time. I actually asked around about you a number of times because I enjoyed your posts. I was 100% wrong about EJ. He's one of the worst QBs I've ever seen play. You were totally right there. I mean that sincerely.
Happy?
Do you still love Bortles?
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Someone that name on these boards! I couldn't have my old name back!
I was honestly missing you Trans. Reunited and it feels so good.
Amen Brotha... same to you
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I thought I lost you forever.
Kind of like the movie Castaway....I was gone but came back.
Careful before you give him your heart again... he may have found someone else thinking you were lost at sea...
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Never got an infraction on that other place and hope to never get one here.
Mods have it tough especially on an officially sanctioned board and some of those guys like Shaw seemed to genuinely care - others not so much.
Either way glad to see so many migrate over - I looked at several boards before deciding this seemed like the best fit.
Glad you made it over... was wondering where you were!
Hi
And another familiar face I was waiting to see... welcome!
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I got infractions for things I thought were dumb from mods, but I don't know why folks seem to be so bitter towards them.
standingbuffalo, T&C, and Shaw are all over at billievers and I think they're staying away from this board probably because of the general contempt from some over here.
They had a tough job over at BBMB. It's the Internet... don't know why grudges can exist so strongly on the Internet towards individual posters. But with those grudges so prominent, if I were them, I'd probably stay away from this message board, too.
TYROD IS STAYING
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You accuse some of pure speculation and follow it up with pure speculation yourself?
Crusher, just admit you were really, really wrong.
You were.
And as to the money thing, you should hold off on gloating about that, too, because it seems as though Taylor may not actually be taking less money.
Practice some restraint in our new digs, dude. Just wait until you know before you say something you don't have a clue about.
I say all this with love