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Or maybe the OC is just used to working with a seasoned vet like Brady and doesn't actually understand the concept of getting a young QB in rhythm in order to build confidence. Daboll does some good things, but overall it's our OC who isn't consistently executing, not our young QB, who essentially carried the team today and had a 102.7 Passer Rating.

Who cares?

Defense was piss poor. Absolutely agree. But honestly, I just think the Patriots were able to exploit what our glaring weaknesses on D have been all year. Our defense is very good, but overrated. Our offense, oddly, carried the day. But Allen needs reps and I think I'd be worried about resting him. Rest Gore and John Brown and minimize Singletary's load by playing Yeldon and maybe and keep Neschke out another week, but I think you generally play everyone. The thing I dislike about Daboll's weekly gameplan is how much he protects Allen and then just expects him to make the big play at random moments without trying to get him into any kinda rhythm whatsoever as a passer. For that reason, I think Allen needs to play. He needs the reps.

Literally just updated this thread. Allen was shook for much of this game, yet he was also the main reason the Bills were still in it with a chance to win it or tie it in the last minute of the game. Completion percentage aside for this game (50%... bringing his season total down to 56.6%), Allen looked SIGNIFICANTLY better than he did against the Patriots or Ravens earlier this season. Allen was seeing ghosts, which altered his throwing platform and hurt his accuracy--extremely evident today--but he also made a number of incredible throws AND plays with his legs.

Why did Brown turn on that pass? Looked like he woulda had a good chance to catch it if he just kept going.

What A GREAT PASS!!!!!

I think you give coaches too much credit. Sometimes being right in the middle of all the trees for so long makes it impossible to see the forest.

Can we get Allen running more? I want scrambles when he sees man to man, not designed runs. Allen needs to calm down. I think he was seeing ghosts much of that 1st half... it really made his footwork noticeably pretty bad.

Sheesh... unbelievable we're tied considering how awful Allen was most of that half and how easily Brady and the Pats were moving the ball on us. Hope we make some good halftime adjustments and 4th quarter Allen shows up.

As I said yesterday, I don't think we see Duke Williams take another meaningful snap in a Bills uniform. For better or worse, Daboll clearly doesn't think he fits in this offense.

A little nugget from Fairburn's Athletic article regarding random things before the game that might be especially relevant to those pounding the table about Passer Rating: https://theathletic.com/1478641/2019/12/21/leftover-bills-thoughts-josh-allens-challenge-of-facing-bill-belichick-a-second-time-jordan-phillips-snub-and-other-notes?source=shared-article It’s also worth noting that on passes from 1 to 29 yards in the air, Allen has 15 touchdowns to seven interceptions and a 91.6 passer rating. Those have been a bigger focus for the coaching staff and make up a much more significant chunk of the offense (320 attempts to 24)

Great post Shaw, but I hope McDermott throws conservative out the window in the playoffs and keeps his foot on the gas once/if we get the lead. Maybe Duck Hodges at QB was the entire calculation, but the ending of that game irritated me. We got 2 INTs, but on the 1st one Poyer got the All-22 showed the WR came open in the End zone and Hodges anticipated and threw it earlier, it's a TD. I understand the logic of holding Allen's hand and bringing him along slowly, but I hope McDermott understands that at some point potentially very soon--like against high powered offenses and dangerous QBs like Brady/Watson/Mahomes/Jackson--he needs to let go of that hand and allow this offense to thrive or die in a one 'n done scenario.

At this point I don't think Duke will be active the rest of this season or in the playoffs. Basically, I don't think we see Duke play another meaningful game with Buffalo. Daboll clearly thinks he doesn't fit in his offense. Right or wrong, I'm sure that's what he thinks. I don't personally agree. I think a hungry big bodied WR with reliable hands who is a good run blocker is a young QB's best friend in ANY offense, but Daboll is our OC, not me. I think we've seen Duke take his last snap with the Bills barring injury or an EXTREMELY outside shot that Duke Williams is the proverbial rabbit Daboll is waiting to pull out of his hat for the right game, which would only really either be tomorrow or the 1st playoff game... but I just kinda doubt it.

Just for the sake of ratings...so stupid

They both still are

Through the first seven games, the Bills allowed Johnson to average 20 defensive snaps per game. Johnson, a seventh-round draft pick, provided some speed off the edge and had the Bills excited about his outlook. Also in those games, teams began to take advantage of Johnson as a run defender, and he didn’t do enough as a pass-rusher for the Bills to keep him on the field. In the last seven games, Johnson has only gotten a total of 21 defensive snaps. Then, in one of his two snaps against the Steelers, Johnson bull-rushed left tackle Alejandro Villanueva into the pocket, forcing Hodges to take a few steps forward. That helped set up a strip-sack for Lawson that the Steelers recovered, but it doesn’t diminish Johnson’s impact on the play. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the Bills used him on a handful of pass-rushing downs moving forward to see if he can repeat the flash play.

Bills All-22 Review: Josh Allen does the little things and Cody Ford has his best game of the season https://theathletic.com/1465285/2019/12/17/bills-all-22-review-josh-allen-does-the-little-things-and-cody-ford-has-his-best-game-of-the-season?source=shared-article 1) Allen flips the script once again It shouldn’t be a surprise by now because of how often Josh Allen does this sort of thing. For the fifth or sixth time in his young career, Allen turned a notable weakness in his game into a non-factor the following week. Allen’s development is ongoing, showing that he isn’t stuck in his ways. He makes changes to be a better asset to his team and to help move the ball down the field more effectively. While the defense deserves a heap of praise for the Bills’ success this season, Allen does too for his nonstop tinkering. The previous week, the Ravens seemed to find a way to turn the clock back on Allen. They made him nervous, he panicked in the pocket more than he has in the last two months and, worse, he hung onto the ball far too long. So, Allen went back to the drawing board. His processing speed, against an aggressive Steelers defense, was better than it’s been all season. He saw things well ahead of the snap, he made quick decisions and he didn’t allow the Steelers’ pass rushers to control the game. Last week against Baltimore, the average time it took Allen to throw, scramble or get sacked was 2.93 in 50 dropbacks — one of his highest single-game averages of the season. In 30 dropbacks against Pittsburgh, Allen cut that down by almost half a second, averaging 2.48 seconds before the throw, scramble or sack. In the Ravens game alone, there were 20 separate plays where Allen held onto the ball for at least three seconds before making a decision or getting sacked. One glance at Allen’s traditional stat line against Pittsburgh might be underwhelming. Reviewing the film and watching Allen’s decisiveness and ball placement revealed a bit more. Allen was confident, he didn’t allow the Steelers to do what they wanted defensively and his execution of the game plan removed the ball-hawking Minkah Fitzpatrick from the game. On some of his more significant pass plays, Allen’s eyes moved Fitzpatrick away from his real target. We all remember the post-Renegade deep ball to John Brown –Fitzpatrick would have been there had Allen not given a long look right at the beginning of the play. Similarly on the Tyler Kroft touchdown, Allen froze safety Terrell Edmunds in place by looking left before going to his real read on the right and firing a dart for the go-ahead score. These, along with the pre-snap modifications and quickened processing time post-snap, are next-level quarterbacking improvements. You see a line of 13 for 25 for 139 yards on the box score, but when you remove drops (3), throwaways (2) and passes tipped at the line of scrimmage (3), Allen’s adjusted completion rate is 76.5 percent. If Allen can be consistent with this style of play, the Bills are onto something with their second-year player. ... 2) The Steelers were quite close to tying it up late ... 3) Cody Ford shows up ... 4) Oliver continues his dominance against a good OL ... 5) Two seldom-used depth players make a case for more snaps ... The Grades 1. CB Tre’Davious White Snaps on the field: 58/59 Grade versus Steelers: A- 2. DE Shaq Lawson Snaps on the field: 33/59 Grade versus Steelers: A- 3. QB Josh Allen Snaps on the field: 65/65 Grade versus Steelers: A- 4. MLB Tremaine Edmunds Snaps on the field: 59/59 Grade versus Steelers: A- 5. 3TDT Ed Oliver Snaps on the field: 35/59 Grade versus Steelers: A- 6. 3TDT Jordan Phillips Snaps on the field: 34/59 Grade versus Steelers: A- 7. SS Jordan Poyer Snaps on the field: 59/59 Grade versus Steelers: A-

@jrober38... please tell us what you disagree with in this assessment of the Steelers game: https://theathletic.com/1465285/2019/12/17/bills-all-22-review-josh-allen-does-the-little-things-and-cody-ford-has-his-best-game-of-the-season?source=shared-article 1) Allen flips the script once again It shouldn’t be a surprise by now because of how often Josh Allen does this sort of thing. For the fifth or sixth time in his young career, Allen turned a notable weakness in his game into a non-factor the following week. Allen’s development is ongoing, showing that he isn’t stuck in his ways. He makes changes to be a better asset to his team and to help move the ball down the field more effectively. While the defense deserves a heap of praise for the Bills’ success this season, Allen does too for his nonstop tinkering. The previous week, the Ravens seemed to find a way to turn the clock back on Allen. They made him nervous, he panicked in the pocket more than he has in the last two months and, worse, he hung onto the ball far too long. So, Allen went back to the drawing board. His processing speed, against an aggressive Steelers defense, was better than it’s been all season. He saw things well ahead of the snap, he made quick decisions and he didn’t allow the Steelers’ pass rushers to control the game. Last week against Baltimore, the average time it took Allen to throw, scramble or get sacked was 2.93 in 50 dropbacks — one of his highest single-game averages of the season. In 30 dropbacks against Pittsburgh, Allen cut that down by almost half a second, averaging 2.48 seconds before the throw, scramble or sack. In the Ravens game alone, there were 20 separate plays where Allen held onto the ball for at least three seconds before making a decision or getting sacked. One glance at Allen’s traditional stat line against Pittsburgh might be underwhelming. Reviewing the film and watching Allen’s decisiveness and ball placement revealed a bit more. Allen was confident, he didn’t allow the Steelers to do what they wanted defensively and his execution of the game plan removed the ball-hawking Minkah Fitzpatrick from the game. On some of his more significant pass plays, Allen’s eyes moved Fitzpatrick away from his real target. We all remember the post-Renegade deep ball to John Brown –Fitzpatrick would have been there had Allen not given a long look right at the beginning of the play. Similarly on the Tyler Kroft touchdown, Allen froze safety Terrell Edmunds in place by looking left before going to his real read on the right and firing a dart for the go-ahead score. These, along with the pre-snap modifications and quickened processing time post-snap, are next-level quarterbacking improvements. You see a line of 13 for 25 for 139 yards on the box score, but when you remove drops (3), throwaways (2) and passes tipped at the line of scrimmage (3), Allen’s adjusted completion rate is 76.5 percent. If Allen can be consistent with this style of play, the Bills are onto something with their second-year player.

All good. I was going to send you a congrats. I will also be donating to a charity once I get word of which one. All good. At a time when we've clinched a playoff spot with 2 games remaining, this is minor.

Sheesh... sorry this thread has turned into an @jrober38 trollfest. Is there an award TBD gives out at the end of the year for most epic series of troll posts? I know where my vote will definitely go

This is interesting wording... you say "the only reason we're not considered Super Bowl contenders." So, are you then acknowledging that we actually are Super Bowl contenders... or was that just a Freudian slip?

Stop trolling. The other poster just included a ton of Ravens WRs and TEs who are constantly on the field and consistently targeted and you counter for the Bills with one guy Allen desperately wants to throw to but who can't catch the football and 2 other guys who are rarely on the field. What are you even doing? Do you honestly think you're making any valid points?

The Bills have a great defense. So do the Ravens. The Bills might be better in terms of yards and points allowed, but you're missing a critical point, especially for a young QB on the other side... The Ravens have scored 5 defensive TDs. The Bills have scored ZERO defensive TDs.

You're a guy who really likes to use the word "Elite" with QBs. It's always struck me some of the QBs you used to call "Elite" over at BBMB, from Josh Freeman when he was with the Bucs to RG3 to other guys who have fizzled out of the league. It's okay because we all get these things wrong--I know I have... just ask everyone else--but when you are so arrogantly and blatantly ignoring absolutely any context in the play of the QB leading the team you supposedly love, it's just head-scratching.

I legitimately don't think you've watched Lamar Jackson very much. He's on the Ravens if you have NFL Gamepass and need to go back and see what their offense looks like. Guess I was right... you don't watch Lamar Jackson play very much at all