transplantbillsfan

First of all, you're the one who brought up early career Allen, not me. You're the one pushing the Drake>>>Josh agenda Advanced metrics are fine, but how about the eye test and a little common sense? The Bills are winning shootouts this season against other elite QBs like Burrow, Mayfield and Lamar almost entirely on the back of Josh Allen. in your numbers I notice you don't factor in rushing yards? Weird considering who we're talking about here. Maybe factor in opponents? Regardless, here’s a site that compiles advanced metrics like EPA per dropback, CPOE, QBR, and other traditional states and uses all of them to rank QBs. https://www.nfeloapp.com/qb-rankings/ Look who's #1 and who's #10...

Allen is the best dual threat QB the NFL has ever seen. The dude scores TDs at an unheard of rate. By the very definition of MVP as Most Valuable Player, Josh Allen should probably have won it every year for the last 6 years. And Josh was the Josh we know now in year 3, not 4. But there's revisionist history on his 2nd year because he certainly started resembling the Josh Allen we know right now in 2019. Maye might be "in the running" for MVP, but realistically I don't think he has a shot to win it. It's going to be Stafford or (sorry to burst your bubble) Allen. The latter depends on what he does in the next 4 games. Stafford, however, has never won an MVP. He's also the league leader in the NFL in total TDs at 35. For context for you Patriots fans... that's 10 more TDs than your boy Drake. Josh Allen is right on Stafford's heals at 34 and he probably has the same narrative of "look at the guys he's throwing to! He's doing it all by himself" going for him... and that would be true. However, Stafford still gets the leg up because he's never won it and the voters will surely want to give him one. And I want to reiterate something here... I like Maye and really wish he weren't on the Patriots. He's a good QB and scares me as a Bills fan more than any other QB in the AFC East since Brady left. But he ain't Allen. He ain't Mahomes. He ain't Lamar. Drake's having a MVP like year in his 2nd year, huh? That's nice. Maybe it took Josh 3 years to put up an MVP like year, but pretty stark difference of Josh's 3rd year to Drake's 2nd. 2020 Josh Allen 310.3 yards per game 2.8 TDs per game 1 turnover per game 2025 Drake Maye 287 yards per game 1.9 TDs per game 0.6 turnovers per game Just did yards per game there because Maye's 2025 season is incomplete, but Josh Allen in 2020 was just a few yards short of 5,000 total yards and had 45 TDs. And he did it in a 16 game season. The more you look back at that season, the more bewildering it is that Josh only has 1 MVP... because he's done similar things in every ensuing year. He's always somewhere around 5,000 total yards and always over 40 TDs now. Maye ain't sniffing that kinda production. And by the way, even in Allen's 2nd year, he still had 29 TDs and 3,600 yards in 15 games since he took a total of 7 snaps in a meaningless week 16 game against the Jets... so if Maye can't get 5 or more total TDs in his next 2 games against the Bills and Ravens, he's no better than 2019 Josh Allen in terms of scoring production. Is our bar really so low this year that we really think Drake Maye should win the MVP???? C'mon man...

I take it you're our resident temporary Pats fan? Maye has been super good this year. I will say that I was at the Patriots SNF football game in Buffalo and had awesome seats right on the 45 yard line 14 rows up. For me that game was a tale of 2 halves. I thought Maye looked pretty lost in the 1st half. Looking at the splits, he pretty much was as he was 8-15 for 82 yards, was sacked twice and scrambled 3 times for 12 yards. He turned it on in the 2nd half, but I also think our CBs were pretty terrible in that game covering Diggs especially. Our secondary right now is a totally different secondary than it was in week 5. We also replaced Bernard with Shaq Thompson and should (hopefully) have Milano for the full game unlike in week 5 when he got hurt and didn't play most of the game. I really do think the Bills are the better team and no matter how Maye has been playing this year, Allen is clearly still the better QB. Playing on the road against a team with an extra week of rest makes a little more of a coin flip, but on a neutral field with equal rest I think this Buffalo team wins against this New England team 8 times out of 10.

Bills win division: 30% Bills in playoffs: 99.5% Bills out of playoffs: 0.5%

You can definitely feel his presence on the field. And his communication with the entire D seems as important as his play.

I was listening to Football 301 with Nate Tice and Matt Harmon today. The show was about X factors for each AFC playoff contender. They actually focused on one X factor on both sides of the Bills unlike any other team. (On offense it was Kincaid). Tice said the spine of our D and more specifically Shaq Thompson is our X factor on that side. He brought up some interesting metrics/splits for when Shaq Thompson has been on the field in the last 4 games vs. when he's been off. One half of what he brought up is obvious: our run D goes from dead last or about dead last in the league when he's off the field to about middle of the pack when he's on. BUT... when Shaq is off the field our pass D (and specifically our explosive pass D) goes from one of the best defenses when he's off the field to one of the worst. I'm pretty sure he said we've given up the most or 2nd most explosive pass plays in the NFL during the time he's been on the field. I'm not pointing that out to say that I think Shaq should be taken off the field. I don't. I also think those numbers are probably really skewed by the Bengals game. However, it's still an observation McDermott should probably consider in his schemes.

I think now is the time to start repping him at what should be his permanent position moving forward at WLB to take over for Milano starting next year. Shaq Thompson still has a couple years in him at least. Draft a MLB in the middle rounds to develop and let Shaq and Bernard be our LBs.

Taron in the playoffs obviously

Great QB but total dick. My friend has some connections in the NFL and she got her close fried into the Bengals locker room. She brought her kids who were wearing Joe Burrow jerseys hoping for an autograph. The kids were hard to miss and the locker room wasn't crowded. Cool Joe gave them the cold shoulder. That combined with the manner in which he got caught cheating on his girlfriend a year or 2 ago combined with his interviews. Can't stand him.

Of course they should. He's a Tight End. The 5th year option will be pretty cheap.

Weird and interesting scenario with too many ifs... but plausible ones: Let's say Buffalo beats NE and the Browns the following week and NE also loses to the Ravens. If that were to happen, the Eagles game would be completely and utterly meaningless as far as the division goes and (I'm pretty sure) the Bills will have already clinched a playoff spot. The final game vs. the Jets would then be a game you would have to win regardless of whether the Patriots were to lose against the Jets or Dolphins. This is all assuming the Patriots don't just lose out, which I don't think is a possibility. Do you rest your starters vs. the Eagles? It'd be a weird situation where you could rest your starters in the 2nd to last game of the season but would have to go into the final game viewing that as the start of the playoffs in a way.

Well yeah... obviously. And it's Stafford and Maye as his competition. JT doesn't really have a chance to win MVP at this point. Honestly, if the Bills win against NE this weekend and Josh has game where he plays better than May I think he may end up becoming the betting favorite.

Born in 1981. Started getting interested in football the year before our first Super Bowl run. So long ago... and I don't feel old.

1) Josh Allen 2) James Cook 3) Joey Bosa 4) Shaq Thompson 5) Christian Benford In that order

Why not?