Doc Brown

He received death threats because he denied Lamar the unanimous MVP last year. Nothing but respect for Schatz.

So he won MVP, most overrated player, biggest trash talker, and sportsmanship award in the same season. He's never boring. I'll give him that.

How did Luke Kuechly not get in? Played eight years, 5 first team all pros (two 2nd teams), 7 pro bowls, offensive rookie of the year, and one defensive player of the year. Also, I don't like to root against a player but Eli getting in as a 1st ballot HOFer would've sullied the honor a little bit imo.

Vegas always know.

That definitely hurt his case. Lamar is a great QB but I always found it odd that whenever they lost the criticism was they abandoned their run game. Pry too small a sample size. It sucks that race is even brought up.

If I was a neutral party it would not be an easy choice. I pry would've split the baby (Lamar 1st team all pro, Josh MVP) like some voters did.

He predicted the Bears to make the Super Bowl so let's not give him too much credit.

Pretty much everyone did except wait for it.....Nick Wright.

I know this is an Allen thread but Brees never winning it is criminal.

He ironically voted for Lamar. Stat nerd at least stays consistent.

Yeah. We should pry keep him. Third round comp picks are overrated.

Does "Go Bills" at the end count?

He's probably the most smug NFL commentator out there. He's like the Aaron Rodgers of the NFL media.

Matt Ryan maybe?

He won with 27 votes to Lamar's 23 votes. Apparently, that's all the points you need to beat Lamar.

That was my instinct as well. How do you screw that up though? Lol.

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Thanks for doing your job.

When did you stop reading the rest of the thread?

I think Josh cares. He's human. I would care. That former MVP label will follow you the rest of your life. It would be a shocker if Lamar didn't win it but I'd be ecstatic for Josh if he did.

Not as an offensive coordinator though. Mack Jones only good year was with him as a rookie. Same goes for Matt Cassel in that 11-5 season after Brady suffered that injury in the first game in 2008. We'll see what he can do with Drake Maye but I wish they hired someone else. I think he's going to fall in that bucket of bad head coach but decent coordinator. I think long term this will be the best competition in our division.

Maybe the Swifties will get their first Wide Right gut punch and become true NFL fans.

At least they should be honest and change the name to the International Football League. Tua would pry still under throw Hill. You didn't like being the guinea pig? That was an effin joke. There's pry lots of millennial Bills fans in Africa.

It's not an extreme straw man if the belief by some on here is that the NFL is rigging the games for KC to get to the Super Bowl. How else would you do that?

That's obvious and probable after the Donaghy scandal. Every ref given the orders by Goodell to rig it for the NFL ratings for Swifties is a bit too much for me though.