Bray Wyatt

Here was my original post, which maybe you missed: Bray Wyatt, on 29 Mar 2017 - 09:56 AM, said: My point being a safety taken in the top 10 rarely seems to live up to that spot (ie not good value) I am not sure what is hard to grasp there but whatever You seem to like to split hairs, a couple of years vs three and a half years is really a point you want to argue? I used the term a couple as I knew it wasn't a lot but didn't know the specific amount, ridiculous to even have a discussion with you if you have to point these things out And if you think only playing 3 and a half years lives up to warrant a top ten pick (circumstances around it are irrelevant, imo it is no different than a career ending injury in regards to draft value in hindsight) You can disagree with it all you want as that is your opinion and this is mine, but your condescension is unnecessary

Nice! Should be a good 4 days of sports entertainment (NXT Takeover, WM, Raw, SDL) I am wondering what the big shock will be as everything either seems fairly obvious or wont be shocking either way

I think the only late round prospect at QB they have met with is Kelly (that I know of anyway) and man that would be a polarizing pick from a fan stand point! The only reason I haven't ruled out a top pick on a QB as typically new regimes want to bring in their guy and if a top prospect falls to us at 10 it would be hard to pass up, also TT's new deal is essentially a 2 year deal so I have to imagine they would hedge their bets and take a top prospect either this year or next year. Someone like Trubisky could benefit from sitting a year or two (although you would think we would at least bring him in for a visit if he was going to be an option)

It all depends on how he sees you already, and from what it sounds like he doesn't like him to begin with so who cares what he thinks. If his wife told her dad that she appreciates his concern but he needs to but out and actually stands up to him (doesn't sound like she ever has so this is needed as well) then that should solve things pretty quick. It sounds like to me this guy will go talk to his daughter after they have the conversation you wish, twist his words and make things worse I have no problem with the talk to him like a man arrangement, but it doesn't work in all situations and this guy seems like the passive aggressive type as he appears to address his issues with the OP through his daughter

In regards to Taylor, yeah you cant blame the scouts as we have the benefit of hindsight and yes he had talent. But if you knew now that you would only get a couple years out of him, would you have spent the pick on him? I wouldn't have. Hence the lived up to the spot point I was making. I was trying to draw a similar comparison as I believe Jack's knee was a degenerative thing, and he is rumored to only have a limited number of years. Now that I think of it, wasn't Kuoandjio rumored to have a knee thing that wouldn't last long too? Could also explain his drop. I guess the point I was trying to make is that if people know that a players shelf life is limited, it impacts their draft stock and if there was a re-draft done, Taylor would not have been picked in the top 10 imo So that would probably mean you don't see them spending a pick on a QB then no? Also, I don't think Corey Davis would last much longer after we pick, Mike Williams is more likely to drop but that's just my opinion obviously

Have your wife talk to your FIL, dads have a soft spot for their daughters and if she agrees with what you are saying, have her be the messenger

My sister in law bought my wife and I the first two seasons of scandal on dvd/bluray. While I thought some of the stories were good, the annoying romance thing with the President was just ridiculous and was too annoying for us to watch any further

That's fine, and I agree with them, but they weren't taken in the top 10 which is where we are picking. And yes he had the talent, but playing for only a couple years is not what you want from a top 10 pick regardless of circumstance. Hence reasons why Jack dropped last draft

I thought Irvin was into hookers and blow?

Is Ellis Lankster on your list?

Lol no worries, I was going to say you would probably have been the first bills fan to ever make that argument

I first thought this was about the potential draft pick and wr from Clemson, then I remembered the Cuse guy, and then I remembered the tackle from Texas. Please lets just stay away from the name Mike Williams Ha! same thoughts here

LOL Oh I remembered him, but you really aren't suggesting he was worth the 8th overall are you?

Just went back to 2002 and here are the safeties selected in the top 10: Roy Williams Sean Taylor Michael Huff Donte Whitner (ugh) Laron Landry Eric Berry So in the last 15 years there have been 6 safeties in taken in the top 10, and the only real star (lived up to draft spot) I would argue is Berry. And Norman was taken in the 5th round, so McD didn't use a high pick on acquiring him FWIW

Sean Taylor didn't last that long (RIP) and Eric Berry is good but I personally don't think a safety warrants a top 10 pick. Its just not a high value position. And to add on, this draft is supposedly deep at DB so why not wait and see what we can get later. Plus we just signed two safeties which lessens a need at that spot. I just don't see us taking one at 10, but I could be wrong of course

I cant remember a safety being taken in the top 10 that has ever lived up to the hype Where wouldn't Foster fit? I could see the bengals taking him in front of us, which would follow the trend of Willis and Kuechley being taken right in front of us.....

He doesn't like to use high picks on corners based on his tenures elsewhere, granted he probably didn't have final say, but I read that it was not his philosophy as well and this seems to confirm that. That is why I had it narrowed down to Davis or Foster or QB depending on how they view the QB prospects.

Its obvious he doesn't want Whaley to know what he is doing so he can avoid him and work with the Pegulas behind DW's back

Didn't Keuchley go the pick before us too? Ugh

McDermott believes in using later picks on secondary (see Josh Norman), not to say he wont ever, but in a deep class at db I feel like we should wait to grab them later and use the pick on another position that can be addressed like LB, QB, WR, TE

I am not suggesting that he favors him because he plays in the same state, but he may like him more than the other candidates due to a better familiarity with him (assuming he wants to go QB) and yes there are games across the country but the coverage of a local program is much more prevalent where you live Edit: Although I am not familiar with the local coverage or a big UNC fan so maybe Boyst can shed some light on how they cover the team down there in NC

Didn't you hear about the car accident in Idaho that was blamed on Bigfoot just the other day? Rumor has it he did it as he believed it was a good representation of our FO

Just a gut feeling that he may want him as he may have more familiarity with him than most I would think. Like I said, its a feeling which means there is nothing concrete to back it up Not sure what the deal is or your sardonic response to it

I remember there being Ames, but never went into any of them. I remember driving around my wife's hometown around the holiday time and seeing an empty Ames building and laughing as I totally forgot that they were a thing

I have this feeling for some reason that he may want Trubisky, seeing as he coached in Carolina, although its not like Watson was far away either. So those two would be my likely candidates (assuming they stay at 10) if they went QB