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I take it all back. GM of the year!

If I'm understanding correctly... **spoilers ahead for those who haven't seen** ...The GM in this movie desperately needs a quarterback, but instead mortgages his team's future to select an off-ball linebacker and a punt returner, because he finds out none of the top QB prospect's teammates attended his birthday party... Do I have that right? I understand watching it for the camp factor (and Jennifer Garner's dimples), but other than that....

Belichick's wisdom and insight will be fascinating -- even though he was awful at drafting the past several years (and beyond?). I always said that Bill the Coach is the best ever, but Bill the GM suuuuucks. Nevertheless, he's forgotten more about football than any of us could ever hope to learn. He and McAfee will be a weird pairing. Like oil and water. Clearly Bill is on his "rehabilitate his image so that he can get another head coaching job" world tour. Smart move. I'm glad draft coverage has expanded. I usually watch NFL Network's, but in recent years, various web-based draft day shows have surpassed even that. Thank goodness. Never much liked ESPN's coverage. Now who do I have to call about not going to commercial when the Bills are on the clock for the 14th year in a row?

Dude. It's not a secret if you tell everybody.

Just to circle back to previous Xavier Worthy discussions. Not that it should be at all shocking that the fastest guy in combine history would go in round 1, but...Vegas seems to think that's what's about to happen.

"ThE BeNGaLs WinDOW iz cLoSiNg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

If we're using the word "comfort", then... The Office Parks and Rec Brooklyn Nine Nine Abbot Elementary All four have an easy-going, predictable, pleasant rhythm to them. All four have a host of lovable characters. Now if we're just talking "shows I re-watch often and never get sick of", then I'd list Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. But...none of the three is bringing anyone any real "comfort" any time soon.

I'm on the west coast, so thankfully the draft is on earlier for me than most. By the time I get home from work, grab a pizza, pour a beer, and sit down, the draft should be starting. By a great stroke of luck, the wife will be out of town. That means I can be a total degenerate lunatic football fan and watch the entire draft without interruption. I'll be ordering a pizza, getting a 12-pack of good microbrew, pulling out my draft magazine and Dane Brugler's "Beast" draft guide, and watching all of night one and night two. To be honest, I cannot bare to sit through all of day three, mainly because the TV coverage turns from discussion of the drafted players to puff pieces, promotional stuff, concerts, and other not-at-all-interesting nonsense to fill the time. If they kept talking about the prospects, I'd keep watching, but they won't, so I won't. Instead, I'll likely go for a nice long walk on day three and occasionally check my phone to see who the Bills drafted. Once its all said and done, I will dive into all the players the Bills drafted, watching every highlight, cut-up, interview, and reading every article and draft writeup I can about them. I love the NFL draft. I ***** love it.

Thanks for this post. It likely won't get the play it should, because many don't care to get into the nuance of positional alignments, tight ends vs split ends, etc, but...it's good stuff. I appreciate you taking the time to type it up. For what it's worth, I agree. I think the Bills are going to try their hardest to come away with a traditional X anyway, but if they don't manage to get one, I think they'll be fine, for the reasons you stated. The scheme versatility and creativity of modern NFL offenses -- not to mention the way NFL rules are currently set up -- make it so that you can have all sorts of non-traditional collections of personnel and can still produce on offense. NFL offenses are more likely to be limited by the imagination of their playcaller than by any personnel shortcomings they may have.

I see things have gotten........weird in this thread. It's like the dog days of training camp when fights start breaking out between teammates. Everyone's tired of hitting their own guys and desperately need a preseason game to get here so we can hit someone else. Draft night can't come soon enough!

Yeah. The other problem is that the Bills likely aren't the only team that doesn't have 28 first round grades on players this year, so why would trading all the way back to 28 be particularly attractive to anyone?

Yep. Only way I can see it not happening is if the Bills simply try their hardest and fail, and some team feels as strongly about Odunze as the Bills do and takes him rather than trading back. It always takes two to tango. Bills can try 'til they're blue in the face, but they can't force anyone to trade with them.

Benjamin Albright, who was discussed earlier in this thread and who was all over Allen to Bills and Oliver to Bills early in those draft years, has released his one and only mock draft. He has Odunze sliding to 15 and the Colts taking him there. He has the Bills "trying and failing to trade up" and then drafting Xavier Worthy at 28. Personally, if Odunze DOES slide as far as 15 (which I don't see as likely), I can't imagine the Bills NOT trading up to get him. But it takes two to tango, and if they were to get shut out, Worthy is a fine consolation prize.

I traded him from my dynasty team after his rookie year because I thought he wouldn't replicate that success in year two. I used the pick I got in exchange to draft.......Skyy Moore. I still think about it pretty much daily.

I'm not doing this with you today. It is my opinion that you're fixating on and exaggerating Worthy's negative qualities and completely ignoring his positive qualities. The fastest 40 time in combine history, to go along with a freshman breakout season, three straight years of quality production at Texas, and a likely 1st or 2nd round draft position, all indicate that Worthy is a legitimate weapon, and that NFL teams view him as such. It's fine that you don't like the prospect. I do. Like I said, we can agree to disagree. We'll see in a day or two where he winds up, and we can check back in with each other as his career in the NFL goes along. People get far too certain about draft prospects and far too emotionally invested in their success or failure. I like him. You (very clearly and evidently) do not. C'est la vie.

I think saying there is "next to 0 chance Beane takes Worthy", when the Bills have clearly done a lot of work with him and met with him -- including some late-in-the-process extra work -- is silly. YOU may not like him, and if it makes you feel better to convince yourself that there's "next to 0 chance" of the Bills drafting him, that's fine. But the reality of the situation is that it's very much a possibility. As for him being a massive bust: I disagree. All this "he'll never get off the line" stuff completely ignores the way modern NFL offenses scheme receivers open. It completely ignores the recent success of guys like Tyreek Hill, Zay Flowers, and Hollywood Brown. It ignores the success of offenses like the Dolphins. The modern NFL game is all about speed. Speed, speed, speed. It's one of the hardest things to defend. Having a guy who can both take the top off a defense and open things up for the players underneath AND be explosive in terms of RAC is hugely important. It's not just me saying it. Beane and McDermott both spent the offseason talking about adding speed, explosivity, and RAC to the offense. Worthy has all of those things. He also has three years of quality production at Texas. He is NOT a "straight line speed only", one trick pony. He has lateral quickness, route running ability, toughness, and smarts. We can agree to disagree on the issue. I think Worthy is gonna be a very good player, and I think he would make perfect sense as the Bills' preferred choice.

After sleeping on it, I still think the plan, in order of preference, is: A) Trade up fairly high for Odunze or Nabers B) Draft Xavier Worthy either at 28 or even after a small trade up C) Trade down to net a 3rd round pick, draft one of Franklin, Legette, or McConkey I'm sticking with that. Any outcome other than one of those three will actually surprise me. The late-in-the-process smoke around trading up (for Odunze in particular) and the late checks on Worthy ring true to me. Many will say "smokescreen!", "lying season", etc, but...nah. I buy it. Both guys would give our offense something it currently lacks. Odunze would give us a true playmaking X. Worthy would give us an explosive downfield and RAC threat that would open things up for the other guys. We'll see in 40 hours or so!

I think it's down to what Tyler Dunne said today: The two scenarios for the Bills are either: 1) Trade up for Rome Odunze 2) Xavier Worthy It's gonna be one of those two things. I like the idea of both. A true alpha X receiver would be great. A truly electrifying Z receiver with terrifying speed to open up the middle for Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel, and Cook is great. Either one would improve the Bills offense greatly. Two different flavors, but both would make us more dynamic. I really believe it's down to those two options as the most likely.

I know this is already in the "NFL draft rumors" thread, but given that it involves the team this forum is based on, and involves the position we all know they desperately need, and given that it's based on the reporting of at least one credible source....surely it deserves its own thread, no? I can't be the only one who doesn't regularly check the draft rumors thread. If it gets merged, so be it.

Thanks for this. I don't view Legette as having the highest bust risk at all. I think Adonai Mitchell has a far higher risk of busting than Legette. Legette suffered through injuries, motorcycle accident, etc, all throughout college. When finally healthy, he posted 1200+ yards and 7 TDs in the SEC. He is known to have an exceptional work ethic. Mitchell's career BEST year saw him post 845 yards and 11 TDs. He doesn't have the injuries to fall back on that Legette had, either. And whereas Legette's work ethic is lauded, the word on Mitchell is that he takes plays off when the ball isn't coming his way. Give me the guy who was hurt a bunch, but who -- when healthy -- put together an excellent year of production the SEC over the guy who, despite having all-world measurables, never posted even 850 yards receiving in a given season. I could even argue that I feel Brian Thomas Jr has a higher bust potential than Legette, but there's no need to open that can of worms, too. At the end of the day, I think it's all personal preference and "Beauty in the eye of the beholder". We've all talked circles around these prospects for three months. Time for the draft to just get here, so that we can see how NFL teams feel about these guys.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-four-potential-surprise-first-rounders List of potential surprise 1st round players. Guess who's on it?

Just came here to say that Xavier Legette being ranked as a "back half of round 1 player" is not at all controversial, shocking, or worthy of scorn. Scouts are higher on him than the draft community. We all become completely certain of things because the draft analysis community tells us these things over and over and over again and we take it as gospel. But year after year after year, they're wrong about a lot of things. Remember the year Ryan Nassib came out and many had him mocked in the first round? Scores and scores of mock drafts had him as a 1st round or, at worst, 2nd round player. He went in the 4th. That's just one random example, but there are TONS of them. So just because the mock draft industry told you that Legette won't go at, say, pick 22, doesn't mean he won't. Just because they say Brian Thomas Jr is absolutely the 4th best WR prospect doesn't mean they're right. Furthermore, if "only one year of notable production in college" is the reason we're writing Legette off, then lets please also write off Brian Thomas Jr and Adonai Mitchell and the majority of the other good WR prospects, please and thank you. There are a lot of one-year-wonders this year, and not all of them even have the medical justifications that Legette has. Dude's gonna be a baller. Watch.

Yep. That was a riot. I've only been to two TBD tailgates, and weirdly enough, I didn't meet any of the people that I most often converse with on here. Both times, I figured I'd be putting a lot of faces to names, and both times, that didn't really wind up being the case. Then the one time I finally thought "now here's someone I know!", it turned out be a woman who was...not you. Subterfuge! One of these days...

Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State - New York Giants Rome Odunze, Washington - Buffalo Bills Ladd McConkey, Georgia - Tennessee Titans Brian Thomas Jr., LSU - Indianapolis Colts Xavier Worthy Texas- Baltimore Ravens Bonus Bills pick - Rome Odunze

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