oldmanfan

Posted in another thread but also belongs here: People confuse the concept of accuracy with that of precision. The classic example of this is throwing darts at a dartboard. Let's say you aim at the bulls eye and keep hitting the inner 10 ring. Hit it the same spot every time. You're very, very precise but you're not accurate. Now, let's say you didn't hit the bulls eye but you surround it pretty closely with all your darts. Now you're very accurate, but not precise.  When people critique accuracy they really are critiquing precision. Can you stick the ball exactly in the same spot every time? I think there are very few QB that are incredibly precise. Most good ones are really accurate; the ball is always within the receiver's catch radius. And ideally of course you want high precision AND high accuracy. But that's very rare.  Now, can you teach accuracy? Obviously yes or guys like Brady wouldn't go back to his coaches and work on drills every off season. Muscle memory helps in any athletic endeavor, whether it be throwing a football or baseball, kicking a soccer ball, golf swing, shooting free throws. As a QB it may take more as you would have to maintain that with large humans gunning for you, but it certainly can be worked on and improved 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But it isn’t. He literally has never been like a 55% passer his whole career. It matters whether you think so or not. Those 5 passes missed can be the difference between Ws and Ls.  In todays nfl, if you aren’t a 60% passer, you aren’t a starting level qb. Allen is a Rookie on a bad offense so he gets pass. But it needs to get better.  Math is not your strong suit. Let's say you throw 30 passes in a game. Complete 18 and it's 60%. Know what 55% is? Completing 16.5 passes. Or 1.5 passes less a game. So let's say you have everyone covered and throw one out of bounds so you don't take a sack. Or your WR drops one or runs a bad route. There's your difference between this supposed magical 60% vs. 55% completion percentage. And it has absolutely nothing, as in zero, to do with accuracy.

You don't understand the concept of accuracy. Go look at what I posted in the thread about whether passing is like shooting free throws.

People confuse the concept of accuracy with that of precision. The classic example of this is throwing darts at a dartboard. Let's say you aim at the bulls eye and keep hitting the inner 10 ring. Hit it the same spot every time. You're very, very precise but you're not accurate. Now, let's say you didn't hit the bulls eye but you surround it pretty closely with all your darts. Now you're very accurate, but not precise. When people critique accuracy they really are critiquing precision. Can you stick the ball exactly in the same spot every time? I think there are very few QB that are incredibly precise. Most good ones are really accurate; the ball is always within the receiver's catch radius. And ideally of course you want high precision AND high accuracy. But that's very rare. Now, can you teach accuracy? Obviously yes or guys like Brady wouldn't go back to his coaches and work on drills every off season. Muscle memory helps in any athletic endeavor, whether it be throwing a football or baseball, kicking a soccer ball, golf swing, shooting free throws. As a QB it may take more as you would have to maintain that with large humans gunning for you, but it certainly can be worked on and improved Math is not your strong suit. Let's say you throw 30 passes in a game. Complete 18 and it's 60%. Know what 55% is? Completing 16.5 passes. Or 1.5 passes less a game. So let's say you have everyone covered and throw one out of bounds so you don't take a sack. Or your WR drops one or runs a bad route. There's your difference between this supposed magical 60% vs. 55% completion percentage. And it has absolutely nothing, as in zero, to do with accuracy.

You want them gone organize a writing campaign to sponsors and tell them you're ignoring their establishments.

Not cut just not resign

Lawson is playing good football. Murphy has a contract that they can easily get out from this coming year if they want. And they gave up under 200 yards to the Fish yesterday.

It's too early in the day to be drinking that much

I guess. Still really disappointing.

One of the mysteries of this season is why Groy's performance at C fell so far off after filling in capably for Wood a couple years ago.

Mastered the short-intermediate game? As in never misses a pass? And your statements are facts vs. everyone else just having an opinion? Get over yourself. You're just another wannabe NFL coach that thinks he knows it all and doesn't.

First, try writing in English. Second, McDermott isn't going anywhere.

Jerry needs to get hold of himself as well.

I'll have to go back and watch the past couple games in detail, but off the top of my head my impression is more like he's quite accurate when he has time to set up in the pocket, and that he tends to spray it more when he's scrambling. Either way, it will be neat to watch this kid the next few years especially as they build weapons around him.

If in fact the ref called him that the ref needs to be fired today,. That's just ridiculous.

This would be without understanding cap space implications, and just going on team impact: Benjamin Clay DiMarco (unless Daboll really sees a need for a FB) Miller Ducasse Groy

When it hits older RBs it hits quick. Not sure he's absolutely done, but his dancing style just ain't working behind this young O line. O line has to be the main priority this offseason; then we'll see next year if the old Shady comes back. Best bet is he'll start to transition into a third down more spot player role.

I agree overall with the OP, although I would take exception to saying the throw to Clay wasn't accurate. He hit him in both hands. Might have been a foot or two short from 60 some yards; that's accurate to me. I think if you watch the kid, he seems more accurate when he has a solid pocket to throw from, as might be expected. He seems to miss more throws when moving around. The central premise of the OP that completion percentage is overblown is so spot on. if you do the math from his college days, and if you're one of those people fixated on the 60% completion thing as a magical yardstick, it came down to about one completion a game. One. Per game. In a game where there are so many variables such as offensive style, quality of competition, quality of players on your side of the ball, and it is just meaningless. You watch the last couple games, and you see a kid that is getting the game to slow down. And that's the key for young QBs. Get the game to slow down so you make quicker decisions, get the ball out more precisely. Is he perfect? No. Does he have a ways to go? Sure. But you can't watch that game yesterday, particularly the last series, without being excited about the future for the kid. And without thinking that the accuracy thing is way overblown.

Too many ticky tack calls in football in general. Plus they miss too many blatant ones. Not just against the Bills but throughout the league.

This is just absurd. Truly absurd. I guess you didn't watch the last series, or the rest of the game for that matter. A pick into coverage, rookie mistake. Just misses Foster on a 60 yard pass. Misread with Jones. Those were on him. KB shortarms a TD, Clay gets two hands on the ball and drops it. But those are Allen? Please. He has work to do and a ways to go. But the distance to travel is shorter every game, and much shorter than we thought.

It contributes in the sense that the young QB is coming on as are several other young guys. But McD needs to look at some things. Before the game he said Phillips needs to be a pro but his dumb penalty may have lost the game. The overall number of penalties has to get under control. And I believe the stat they quoted is that he's won one challenge out of like 11. That means to me he needs to really evaluate how he makes those decisions, what advice he gets from upstairs, etc. I am a believer in culture and they're putting a good one together. But the HC, as good a job as I think he's done, needs to also show continued improvement.

Allen might have had a fraction of a second to set and get more into it, but when you have a veteran TE who gets hit in the hands and can't hold the ball, nor figure out he needs to work back a little towards his QB, is there a reason to have that veteran TE?

Other than say Moon and Rogers and Wilson and Elway to a degree? Your act is ridiculous at this point. The 7 th start for the kid. He makes plays, and that's what you need in a QB.

The game is slowing down for him. The missed TD to Jones hurt. The pick was a rookie mistake. But you can sense the positives the team has when he's out there. And stop with the accuracy stuff. Delivered a lot of very nice balls today.

Tough season, but anyone with an ounce of football sense has to be excited about Allen and his future

Win or lose this will be fun to watch the young QB