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Ugh I think we could have afforded that for sure, not a crazy overpay. Curtis Samuel and Josh Reynolds are still on the board.

I feel a lot better about the deal after seeing the numbers. $3.9M cap hit this year, and we can cut him next year for $3M in dead cap (or keep him for $6M), then void years of $2M and $1M in 2026 and 2027. His market must have been much worse than expected. To be honest I never understood the initial contract projections of $10M+ per year. He is best served as a backup/rotational EDGE.

Fake account.

Last year he did but I have a lot more confidence in Milano returning to form than I do Jones, and Milano is flat out a better player. With Jones it is two years in a row he has been ineffective in the playoffs, and I'm just not a fan of signing yet another 30+ year old defensive lineman. This strategy has yet to produce anything meaningful for us late in the season. But I've said my piece. I know I'm in the minority about this signing, and I get it. At his best DQ has been a very good player for us. It's weird to say this about a 32 year old player but there is upside to this signing. Just not the direction I would have personally gone in.

On Epenesa vs Floyd, I agree I would take Epenesa because he is younger. I don't hate that deal. I do think it is another instance of us spending a good chunk of cap space on a backup defensive lineman, which I have been against, but the market for that position really sucks right now and we aren't likely to be able to address it in the draft. So I get it. Epenesa at least still has some upside. On the other players, they are young but they aren't cheap relative to their position and spot on the roster. What it really comes down to for me is we are bringing back the same group of players that continually fail to show up in the playoffs. What has Epenesa ever done in a playoff game? Or even Daquan Jones. Two years ago he was out for the divisional round with an injury. This past year he was a shell of himself in the playoffs. Now he's a year older and we're giving him a 2 year deal? I was looking forward to a big shakeup on the roster this year. We can't just keep doing the same thing and expect to get over the hump. After all the cuts last week I was certain this regime was of the same mindset. I've criticized this regime for being unwilling to step outside their comfort zone. It is like after last week they felt too far out of it so they had to bring back a bunch of players they "know" even if the value wasn't there. The Chiefs wouldn't have re-signed Daquan Jones, I am positive of that. And that's our competition. I'd like us to start emulating them. I don't mean underperforming like he was a bad player on the field. But he missed 9 games last year... He underperformed in the same way that Tre White has underperformed. It's not his fault, it's just the reality. 32 years old coming off a major injury that left him hobbled at the end of the season. I expected him to get maybe a 1 year $5M deal on the open market.

That definitely isn't it. I want the roster to get younger and I want us spending our biggest cap dollars on premium positions.

Yeah if we come away with a decent WR signing and a highly drafted WR I'm not going to complain about any of the other moves they've made. I'll admit my hesitancy with some of these signings is that I worry they are eating away at the cap space we should be using on a starting caliber WR, because that's what has played out the past couple offseasons.

Yes, prior to injury. And now he's 32 playing one of the most physically taxing positions. Are we going to be able to count on him in January? I don't mean to criticize every signing but I was really hoping the Bills would use this offseason to get younger at every position, and cheaper at less important positions. I thought after all the cuts last week that this was the plan and I was elated. But here we are signing a 32 year old nose tackle.

Hmm. Guess it was a bad year to need DL help. We are bringing back the same underperforming group and hoping for the best. I'm a little perplexed about Beane's strategy these past couple weeks. Cut underperforming overpaid players, then turn around and re-sign a bunch of guys in the same bucket. I'm sure the real numbers aren't so bad. Hopefully he's healthy and gives us the level of play we got before his injury. I'm not upset about this individual signing. Just confused about what the plan is.

The initial numbers reported, as usual, are hiding the truth of the contract. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/gabriel-davis-47723/ $4.7M cap hit in 2024, $6.7M in 2025. 2026 is where it gets interesting. He is supposed to carry a $17.2M cap hit that year or they can cut him for $14.6M in dead cap, then a huge void year cap hit of $10.4M in 2027, and smaller void year cap hits in 2028 and 2029. No way he will see that $17.2M cap hit. If he underperforms they will likely offer him a pay cut in 2026. If he performs as well or better than hoped they would likely extend him to massage out that cap hit further into the future.

I hope we are part of the "among others." All I want out of this FA period is a decent WR with upside.

A lot of popular potential Bills signings are already off the board.

Interesting question. I don't see any reason why not.

We could have gotten $23M but we chose not to kick all of it to future years. I guess they figured $16M is enough to do what they want to do in free agency.

I'm 50/50 on this deal. Epenesa is a good rotational option and still has upside. His contract came in a bit cheaper than I thought it would so it isn't a crazy overpay. But once again we are spending a good chunk of money on a rotational defensive lineman. I just hope all of these depth re-signings aren't going to lock us out from signing a real difference maker at WR or EDGE.

I'm gonna take the fact that no numbers are reported yet as a good sign that it is team-friendly.

Wow that is an overpay. Great news for our comp pick formula though.

It's actually good news IMO. We weren't going to re-sign him anyways, but now he gets included in the comp pick formula.

Again these RB contracts are insane...

Some of these RB contracts are perplexing to say the least.

Initial Autry numbers were wrong:

No, post-6/1 designations allow the player to sign with another team right away. But Tre probably can't pass a physical right now so I doubt he will sign anywhere for at least a couple months.