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Wow Allen with the triple axel.

The one to John Brown? That's a layup for Allen in normal conditions.

Maybe something that takes the weather into account? A "layup" 50 yard pass doesn't exist in pouring rain.

Yeah I just think they were on the same page much more often last year. I could have some recency bias since they were so hot at the end of the year.

He can throw in wind and snow. Not rain.

Agreed. I don't remember many plays like that last year and it's happening constantly this year.

That still should have been downed at the 1. Klein had possession and was on the ground.

I don't like it but every other team gets those calls when the receiver has to come back for the ball and the DB runs into him without looking for the ball.

I agree that they're probably the best roster in the NFL if you don't count QBs. But QBs do count. They count the most by far. I don't consider Deebo even a top 10 WR.

You actually said top 5 at first but sure let's say top 10. McCaffrey, Bosa, Kittle, Warner, Trent Williams? That's 5. Like you said, though, none of those are a QB. They're one of the best rosters in the league but they don't have the most important part. We do, and we have about as many top 10 players as they do.

You're definitely right about our OL but if you go looking for teams that have more than 2 top-10 players at their positions you won't find many. You begrudgingly listed 4 for us, including the most important position in the game.

Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham have had excellent careers but are starting to wear down. Robert Quinn hasn't done anything this year. Jordan Davis is an unproven rookie. I'm definitely not saying they're not one of the best units in the league, but if there is a gap between them and our DL it's very small.

You might be right considering their recent acquisitions of Joseph and Suh. But I'd put Rousseau ahead of their DE's and Oliver ahead of their DT's. And Lawson has played well above JAG status this year, he just doesn't have splash plays.

Yeah I was trying to go by overall career performance (weighted toward current ability so players like Gilmore, Harris, Peterson, Bouye didn't factor in) since Tre obviously hasn't been a top 3 corner this year due to injury. It's also very subjective so I find the other poster's claim that the 49ers roster is better than ours to be dubious at best especially considering the massive gap at QB.

Tre is absolutely a top 3 CB before his injury. Surtain is having a great year but who knows if he'll be consistent. Xavien Howard is up there. Ramsey, Alexander, and Slay all come after Tre in my opinion. We got a ton of pressure on Mac without Von. And we are excellent against the run this year. You didn't address any of the other positions I mentioned and you vastly overrated the 49ers WR position. When it comes down to it, QB is still the most important part of the equation. We have equal talent to the 49ers throughout the rest of the roster, but we have a massive advantage where it matters most.

We have a top 3 WR, best LB duo in the league, top 3 safety, top 3 CB, best DL depth in the league, and OH YEAH top 2 at the most important position where the 49ers have the 20th-ish guy. Also, the 49ers don't have the best pass rusher or a top 5 WR. The Cowboys, Patriots, and Steelers have better pass rushers. The Rams, too, if you include interior guys. I'm not even sure who you think their top 5 WR is. Deebo? Aiyuk? Neither are even top 10.

Talk about a great thread to pad those reputation stats! Bravo! Edit: I'm joking, guys. Jeez. I also awarded the post.

I can easily see them losing two of those games. Even if they win all three, they're not beating the 49ers or Chiefs and won't make the playoffs.

Believe what, though? That they are a good team? Definitely. That they are a threat? Not really.

That's true about the coaching staff, but I just watched Herbert miss a ton of easy throws today.

They were only missing one of those guys and couldn't do anything against a garbage defense.

Agreed. They didn't get enough respect coming into the game against us. They got healthy on offense and have improved defensively.

I'm starting to doubt Herbert is a top 15 QB. He had a cake matchup today and scored 13 points. I think we'll be disappointed in him next week.

Chargers and Herbert are so overrated. Just ruined my late slate parlay. Should have been the second easiest pick behind the Cowboys.

Even if Jimmy is back, they're a QB short of being the best roster in the league. That's us, bud.