Toledo Bill

I'm ready to eat some crow. Following the Williams fiasco, Donahoe's arrogance and the 0 and 4 start, I wanted his head. Beating St. Louis and Seattle might not be true tests, but I am hoping I was totally wrong and that he might be a winner after all. I want to see how the rest of the year and 2005 turns out, but my opinion is shifting.

I do not spend a lot of time following college football. I would appreciate the opinions of those who do as to what they saw from Losman. Did he really display a great arm and elusiveness ? Was playing for Tulane a real test? There continues to be such a cry for him to be the #1 qb due to his draft status, I just wondered what he really displayed as a college qb. I know the newspapers, etc had some opinions when he was drafted but I was wondering what some of the TBD posters have to say. Thanks for any opinions.

Bart Starr should be on that list...

Singular Bill's fan living in Toledo, OH. Originally from Clarence NY

As a Bills fan, I certainly hope you are right! My major complaint with him has been what I perceived as a lack of action regarding the offensive line, but they are playing very well at this point.

I am far from a Donahoe fan, but good call on that one!

let's not forget the defense. Stellar performance!!

I thought they said he had a fractured leg.

Our coaching staff seriously outcoached a super bowl winning coach. Wow, what a great job by our coaching staff!

Whichever coach called the onside kick... what a well devised play!

Has anyone ever seen the fake sneak, lateral play that the Bills scored on before? Reminds me of when Marino faked spiking the ball and threw for a touchdown (an original play). With all that goes on in the NFL, I have never seen that... has anyone else??

Watch out for the quiet types that fight through injuries, never complain and are always ready to answer the bell... Marcus Price

Harrington does qb a dink n' dunk offense, but I have seen most of their games and has happy feet and a lack of courage. Alaska Darin pointed out some reasons for Harringtons demise earlier, but how can a qb be a leader when he appears to be afraid?

Good point... thanks.

Being only an hour from Detroit, I semi-follow the Lions when I have exhausted Bills coverage. The Bills really wanted to draft this guy a few years ago. Well, let me tell you first-hand... he stinks. He has no arm and has a distinct lack of courage. He is a complete bust (watch him throw for 300 yards today). Yes, we are saddled with Drew, but this guy would have been no better.

1. DC Tom... we can have a spelling contest 2. Rico... entertaining poster 3. John from Hemet... seems to be a devout fan with rational thoughts 4. There is a poster who lists himself as a 40 year Bills fan. The name escapes me, but I would enjoy discussing the Bills with someone who has been around as long as I have.

Let me ask you this... if Losman had played and had the exact same day Drew had, how many of you would claim he had a great game and helped us win?

I cannot agree with your statement about being one to two players away. I know you said to put the New England game aside, but how can you? They showed themselves to be a bunch of quitters. Their defensive leader (Fletcher) is a prima donna and very overrated. Posey hasn't shown much. Our two defensive tackles are getting old (although I like some of our second stringers) and our defensive ends are going to be manhandled by good running teams. Our defensive backfield is porous and old. Our placekicker is not the best and where do we start on the offense? I am so disappointed in their lack of heart in the New England game that I have very little respect for the players on this team. Also, who is going to get us the one or two players? Ol' Whitey???????

My mistake... I didn't catch the fire Donahoe part. Great plan!

That is pretty good, but can you see Captain Ego actually doing something like that?

That's an excellent thought but as long as our coach is Donahoe's puppet... ain't going to happen. I understand the logic that no other team wanted Matthews, etc. But he could not play any worse than Drew...

Point taken, but I still feel the D quit... just like everyone else on Sunday. Every team we play will run some behomeths at Schoebel. Our linebackers were nonexistent (I don't know where Fletcher got 11 tackles). Other than an occassional burst from Adams, there was no intensity. When our front 7 plays poorly, our deficiencies in the secondary are glaring. We might continue to do ok against weak teams, but the elite will run over this defense... improved offense or not.

Of course he is a TD puppet... that's why Mr. "Pittsburgh Connection" hired him...

One comment I disagree on involves Clements. I think he has been playing well other than one or two bad (alright, stupid) plays. I would consider him pretty close to a "shutdown corner".