Toledo Bill

Can't argue with that. They had really "sucked me into" believing they were a quality defense. Yeah, they are a great defense against crappy teams. For over 40 years I have tried to remain optimistic about the Bills... this is the worst I have felt about a team. They were quitters against New England and I can't stomach that. All this supposed talent cannot suck it up when it counts. All we're missing is Harvey Johnson.

Yeah, well I miss Polian too. They are contenders even with a crappy defense. He is a proven top flight GM.

Bill Polian mentored John Butler who mentored A.J. Smith Tom Donahoe mentored himself to be a politician and not a strong GM/President

Hell... we went to the red helmets for Ferguson... what can we do for Drew???

Why not compare our situation to Pittsburgh? Power struggle... Cowher wins, look at them now. Ol Whitey loses... look at us now. We take their offensive coordinator... they support a rookie QB with 7 straight wins, we can't call an offensive game worth a crap We lose out on LeBeau... their defense is stifling, ours plays with no heart or plan. They didn't even adjust to help out our lightweight Schoebel on the sweeps Why not compare... they are doing everything right, we are doing everything wrong thanks to Donadick!

when he punted from the 35 during the first drive (with a "smash mouth" team)

Oh yeah, and who has built a winner in San Diego of all places? Butler protege... AJ Smith. And we've got Ol' Whitey...

And their defense is great with Le Beau!

If the Bills get a couple of turnovers, the game will be competitive. We are playing the world champs, so my pick is based on foolish optimism... Bills 21 Patriots 20 I might as well blindly hope!

I think the biggest difference is that they are playing with confidence, in no small part due to McGahee. On several runs in between the tackles he hits a wall (Travis would be stopped at that point) and bounces outside for a gain. He is also dragging tackelers for extra yards. I am not slamming Travis, but I really think McGahee has helped boost confidence.

typical Fletcher... hustles and makes a great play and then starts celebrating instead of helping block...

when Nance said the Jets had a let down against Buffalo (during the game they covered). He stated that Buffalo was a very good team and made several compliments about them. Sims generates some negative comments on this board, but he calls them as he sees 'em and was very upbeat about the Bills.

Jim Kelly's stats (including) sacks his last year (or 2). While everyone debates whether Drew is shot or not, I seem to remember Kelly getting sacked and having a lot rougher time his last year or two due to the demise of our offensive line. I am not stating this as gospel, so I'd appreciate any attacks being held to a minimum... I am just asking for anyone that has a better memory than me or who might be a "stat" person. I believe that this analysis will support the theory that our problem lies more with our line than Drew.

I'd like to ask him if he had any control or input on personnel issues. I am sure that Captain Ego Donahoe gave him zero input. Of course with pick-ups like Eddie Robinson, maybe he didn't earn any opportunities.

He is so full of it I can't believe it. An ex-linebacker/announcer (Millen) has done a better job of turning around a franchise than this loser! How people can continue to defend Donahoe is beyond me. He is all ego and publicity driven. If bottom line results mattered (on the field)... he'd be GONE!

He does focus on the negative. I thought it was a good point about the play calling, however.

Everything I remember hearing about him points to him being a "team first" type of player. That's something a few of our other players should pay attention to.

I didn't see the usual "bull rushes" up the middle, either. Hats off to Tucker, also.

I question his comment about Teague being our best offensive lineman. Are our lineman that bad or is he way off the mark?

Gee... If that is sarcasm... I'm sorry I didn't take the time to read all the posts. Please be sure to let me know when I have the audacity to repeat comments.

did anyone have the feeling that the Jets were just going to march down the field for the winning score? Our defense cannot "close out" a game.

He's still wandering around Giant stadium looking for his car.

and who put together the offensive lines?????

Matt Millen... Now that is sick!

Thank Ol' Whitey... we're back to being a national joke. Go back to Pittsburgh... LOSER!