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I agree on the Rosen choice and I have a tough time thinking that this will be Beane's, McDermott's choice for QB. So many issues with this kid. Then I look at Yolo's mock and see all those choices from the 12 spot to the 22 spot and can't help think that the Bills can get two really good starters in the first round. Then two more possible starters in the second round. Four good young starters or a QB with issues...not to mention giving up next years first. I would rather have QB Baker Mayfield and OT Mike McGlinchey and the two-second rounders and next years first. 12. NYG (from Bills) - Derrius Guice RB 13. Redskins - Ronnie Harrison S 14. Packers - Mike Hughes CB 15. Cards - Vita Vea DT 16. Ravens - Isaiah Wynn OG 17. Saints (via trade from Chargers) - Baker Mayfield QB 18. Seahawks - James Daniels C 19. Cowboys - Courtland Sutton WR 20. Lions - DaRon Payne DT 21. Bengals (from Bills) - Roquan Smith LB 22. NYG (from Bills) - Mike McGlinchey OT

You guys want an Alabama AJ McCarron stat? How about 77 TD's and only 15 INTs. Completion percentage 67.3%. I think it's great that Buffalo will give this kid a shot to compete for a starting job. I'm not holding my breath though. The reason he was a 5th round pick. Weaknesses: Surrounded by an NFL-caliber supporting cast with a very good offensive line that provides a lot of time to dissect the field. Does not have a big-time, vertical arm. Average athlete. Makes occasional bone-headed decisions. Heaves the deep ball and forces receivers to make adjustments. Does not drive the deep out. Draft Projection: Round 2 Bottom Line: An efficient game-managing quarterback who has shown he can carry an offense at times throughout his career, but more often is dependent on a terrific supporting cast. Grades out most highly for his intangibles and decision-making, knowing when and where to go with the ball, and could earn an NFL starting job. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/aj-mccarron?id=2543497

While talking about that cover1... Let's not forget that the Panthers fired their OC this season in an attempt to bring in an OC who will work with Cam Newton to make him more of a pocket passer. Norv Turner is the Carolina new OC. "Rivera repeatedly spoke the last offseason about tailoring an offense that would rely less on Newton's running ability and helping the quarterback transition into a pocket passer. The plan stumbled out of the gate in 2017, thanks in part to Newton's offseason shoulder surgery." Russell Wilson is a very mobile QB who moves around in order to allow his receivers to get open so he can throw to them...a QB like him I want! Lamar Jackson worked in a very simplistic offense with one or two reads out of the shotgun and when those reads weren't open ...he ran. When he broke from the pocket his completion percentage on the run went from 59% down to 42%. However, his rawness as a passer makes him a risky gamble. He doesn’t have much experience under center or reading a defense. He has footwork issues that could make him one of the least accurate passers in the league upon entry. There are a lot of things he needs to work on to become an NFL-caliber passer. All of these issues make him one of the least day-one ready prospects among the top five or so. Worst case scenario, if the quarterback thing doesn’t pan out, I don’t think it’s insane to see him make a Terrelle Pryor-esque move to receiver one day. https://www.ganggreennation.com/2018/1/22/16900712/scouting-the-2018-nfl-draft-lamar-jackson-qb-louisville-new-york-jets

I watched him in college last year and at the combine. He is erratic in his throws with one great pass and the next a duck. In the NFL those ducks will be intercepted. There is a real reason most scouts, draft analysts have the guy as the fifth best QB in this year's draft and some have him as a second-round pick. For a running QB, his move accuracy is highly inaccurate and he turns the ball over too much. Whichever team selects him will need to build an offense around him with a lot of run/pass options. He also has a small frame and could end up as another RG3 with injuries. He ran a spread offense mostly out of the shotgun and wasn't asked to make more than one or two reads and if those aren't open then he runs. Bottom line is Jackson is going to need a bunch of developmental time transitioning to the NFL.

Man, I love watching this kid throw. Reminds me so much of Kelly to Beebe, Lofton. Bombs away! Kelly though had more of a Baker Mayfield attitude. Not probably, I think he will have the strongest arm in the NFL once he gets there. I just hope he doesn't go to Cleveland or the NY Jets who will most likely ruin him. If the NY Giants refuse to trade out of that #2 pick I can see him going there.

What I get a kick out of is the hearing of past interest in Josh Rosen who was the opposite of Allen in the sense that he had some really good receivers in his final season and yet the UCLA Bruins went 6-7 and lost their bowl game. That Lasley kid had 69 receptions for 1264 yards, 18.3 avg with 9 TDs. Andrews also had 60 receptions 773 yards, 12.9 avg, 10 TDs. Granted those guys still dropped a ton of passes and not sure why just yet. This kid scares me with his durability issues and the fact that he struggles to elude pressure, can't escape the pocket so when he gets hit it usually results in an injury. Concussion issues. Unlike Allen, when Rosen is forced to move out of the pocket his accuracy drops like crazy to 42.4 and he has a poor deep ball completion percentage. UCLA runs a 3 WR pro-style set but in a WCO scheme that doesn't throw deep that often. Rosen's arm isn't all that strong either. Rosen looks as slick as it gets because he was in a scheme that fits what he does. I'd rather draft Allen and let him sit a year. Isn't that why they signed AJ?

The Bills just traded away a more accurate, safer with the ball running QB. why on earth would they even be looking at another who needs a few years of development time.

The sad fact is that some Bills fans are simply far too lazy to look into the reasons as to why Allen's completion percentage didn't improve in his last season at Wyoming. Due to the fact that the entire class of 2016 that touched the football had moved on and he was dealing with all rookies who were constantly dropping passes. He was literally running for his life most games and yet the team still went 8-5 and won their bowl game. Or that his YPA was a mere 6.7 in college and at the Senior bowl that improved to 12.2. Most fans would rather sit back and regurgitate what others are saying that accuracy can't be fixed ...which I've already shown is ridiculous to say. There is a real reason as to why a lot of NFL scouts and draft analysts have Josh Allen as the #1 pick overall going to the Browns. Come to think of it I don't know why I even bother attempting to enlighten my fellow fans should they want to end it all should the Bills actually draft this kid. Simply because he will be gone after the first three picks...unless they trade up to two to draft him.

Well, look at it this way if Allen, Rosen, and Darnold are all taken with the first three picks and the Bills don't like Mayfield. At the 12 pick to 22 they have some really great choices to consider that they didn't have at 21. OT Mike McGlinchey DT Veta Vea DE Marcus Davenport WR Calvin Ridley WR Cortland Sutton LB Leighton VanderEsch CB Denzel Ward OT Orlando Brown RB Derrius Guice OT Connor Williams C James Daniels Are just some of the list between 12 and 22 with one solid starter and perhaps Mason Rudolph at 22 to develop along with Peterman.

Thanks for quoting it so other Bills fans can read it again.

I've got a news flash for ya! It's that none of the QB's in this year's draft class are a perfect day one starter. All of them have warts and issues. Allen has the highest ceiling if developed properly. Think Big Ben, Arron Rodgers, and a Matthew Stafford who can run. It just so happens that Allen went 9 of 13 for 158 yards, 2 TD's in the senior bowl. Which shows the NFL scouts that he has already improved on his passing completion percentage with a better supporting cast then he had in college. Cherry picking? It's not only Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler, Russell Wilson, Tyrod Taylor. Recent QBs who improved their completion percentage from college to the pros. Check out one of the greatest all-time QBs ever in Joe Montana who in his freshman season had a comp% of 42.4% to his final year of 54.2 which is worse than Allen's. One other guy I might mention is Brett Favre who's freshman season started with a 40.7 completion percentage and he finished with 54.5 and averaging 52.4. So, don't tell me that a kid who only played two seasons of college ball can't improve his accuracy when he already showed that he did in the senior bowl ...with receivers who can actually catch the ball.

Talk about Baloney! Go read stats from all college QB's and they generally can improve with each passing year of playing. It's because they are growing, developing, maturing into men from boys. Allen has only played two years in college so there is room to improve his accuracy percentage just like Matthew Stafford did in his third year in college. This mindset that college kids can't develop into better players is absurd.

NFL careers are on the line with whatever they do. The safer choice might be to stay at 12 and see what AJ McCarron can do this year.

Go look at their history of drafting QBs to see it's not just my view. This same GM drafted Christian Hackenberg with a number two pick two years ago. The Jets were 5-11 last year and even Kirk Cousins wanted no part of that team for 30 mill per. The Jets traded up three spots to ensure they get one of the top three QB's...whoopie! They already had the sixth pick and would have probably drafted one of the top three just by staying put. (Foolish indeed if this turns out to be the case.) Instead, to move up three spots they gave up the 6th pick in the first, the 37th and 49th overall picks in this year's draft. PLUS, their number two pick in the 2019 draft. Three number two draft picks all to draft the leftovers from the NY Giants, Cleveland Browns in Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen. If the Giants, Browns draft Rosen, Darnold the Jets are left with Mayfield/Allen just like they would have if they had stayed put. This doesn't look so smart from my view. I still say the Jets will be firing this coaching staff and GM by the end of the 2018 season no matter which QB they draft.

The entire football world is popping woody's over Carson Wentz and Jared Goff because they turned out to be worth what their respective teams traded up for them. So now all QB needy teams are thinking "we" need to draft a QB in the top of the draft. Oddly enough both those young men found the right HC/OC scheme that allowed them to excel and become solid NFL starters. It took Geoff an extra season because he sure didn't look like he was worthy of the first overall pick in his first year. Now all teams want a Carson Wentz and yet there isn't one in this year's draft class that I see. What really gets me is that most of the team slated to draft a QB early don't have the necessary people on the roster or coaching staff to develop one of these young QBs properly. All of the top five/six QB's have warts and none look worthy of a bundle of first, second round picks. I'd rather not see this team move up to the number two spot for a wart. We all saw that McD really did a good job drafting last year in filling some needs at CB, OT. Now we gotta hope they can use those same eyes to find a QB in this year's draft and if not we get to see what AJ McCarron can do. If McCarron can't get it done then trade for Foles.

Knowing it's the Jets making this pick at #3 leads me to believe they will shoot themselves in the foot like always. There is no Andrew Luck in this year's draft and hopefully, the Jets pick Mark Sanchez number two, or Sam Bradford number two. Even if they pick Allen or Mayfield they will screw the kid by starting him right away and thus get him killed on a bad team. Their coaching staff stinks, their roster stinks and I doubt they win more than five games in 2018. New Jets GM, coaching staff in 2019. Oh, and Buffalo can have whatever QB they draft this year in a few years when they cut him.

All The Bills fans complaining about Josh Allen's inaccuracy in college should be in heaven about McCarron at Alabama with his 66.95 comp % and never going below 60%. 77 TD's vs 15 INT's. This kid has had time to sit and learn the last three years so he should be ready to start and play well. Of all the free agent franchise wannabes this kid might actually be the best of the bunch and Buffalo got him cheap comparatively. Love what this new regime is doing.

You mean to the team that drafted Geno Smith, Christian Hackenburg, Bryce Petty. They probably want to be sure to get Lamar Jackson.

What I don't get is why some Bills fans think that what they watched in college is what they will see in the pros. The kid has only had two years of college development in a pro-style offense at Wyoming, which BTW is more difficult to play in. We all already know he had a poor supporting cast around him in 2017 and basically carried his team. Allen has already developed better mechanics, footwork, and accuracy as seen by his performance in the senior bowl. This young man is far from being a finished product and with a decent supporting cast around him with some quality coaching, he could be a franchise QB. This is what the scouts see and why they are projecting him to be a top ten pick. I wouldn't watch too much of his college tape because you will go blind. It would be like watching only the first two years of Matthew Stafford in college in which he was 52.7 comp% in his first year and 55.7 in his second year. In his final season at Georgia, he went 61.4 completion percentage. Stafford also played in the SEC so he had better coaching too. I wouldn't worry very much about the Buffalo Bills drafting Josh Allen as the Jets just traded up with the Colts for the #3 overall spot and Allen will be long gone unless Buffalo moves to #2. I look at Sam Darnold and see another Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez. Matt Barkley who fumbles far too often and has small hands. A polished turd is still a turd. Watch Darnold in the first half of his 2017 season at USC! I look at Josh Rosen and see another Sam Bradford who can sling it with the best of them but can't take a hit, can't escape the pocket. Has poor deep ball percentage because his arm is below average. A WCO QB that is injury prone. If both Allen and Mayfield are gone by the 6th pick I'd say Buffalo should look at Mason Rudolph.

This isn't an 8-year NFL vet we are talking about here it's a kid who only played two years in college. He already showed great improvement with a better supporting cast and better coaching at the senior bowl. (watch the vid) Yes, players that have been used to throwing a certain way for a long time have great difficulty changing anything related to mechanics, footwork, throwing motion. The reason scouts are so high on him is because he isn't set in his ways and can be developed with proper coaching. I'll support any QB the Buffalo Bills draft this year even if it's Lamar Jackson and I don't care much for Rosen with his durability issues or Darnold with his fumbling concerns. Call me crazy but I like Mayfield and Allen with the latter being my #1. I watched his senior bowl/ combine performance and he reminds me of Big Ben...only with a stronger arm.

The kid was scrawny when he first entered college and grew into his bigger frame. Plus, he only played two years in College and his last year was on a very bad team. He played much better in the senior bowl with better coaching and a better surrounding cast. I think it should take less than two years to develop him as an NFL starter. But wow, a possible Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers at the end of that development time.

You were wrong about Taylor as he is STILL a starting QB in the NFL and now will be starting for the Browns. If you loved Allen coming into the season then you must be aware that he came into college a skinny kid and grew into that big frame. He also had a much better supporting cast around him in his first year at Wyoming. The thing is, that anyone who was any good in 2016 left the team in 2017 and he basically was forced to deal with a bad surrounding cast all season. Bad offensive line, bad receiving corps and literally no run game to help him. The kid has only played in college for two years and still has room to further develop into a better QB. If you actually watched Allen play last year you would have noticed that in the games against the better schools the team around him really stunk it up and therefore he didn't play well at all considering he was literally running for his life in those games. Iowa L 24-3 Comp% 57.5 Oregon 49-13 comp% 37.5 Boise St 24-14 comp% 44.4 Yes, Allen had some bad games last year and yet he still went 8-5 while winning the Idaho Potato Bowl. USC's Sam Darnold lost to Ohio St in the Cotton Bowl 24-7 with a completion percentage of 57.8%! UCLA's Josh Rosen didn't play in the Cactus Bowl and they lost 35-17. UCLA went 6-7 last year. Do I think this kid will be a future NFL star....YES! Do I know that he will be...NO! This young man is going to get drafted early because of his potential. He has an arm that can throw frozen ropes all over the field just like Aaron Rodgers

I think AJ would be the starter no matter who they draft this year simply because they need to see what they have with him. All of them have warts except perhaps Mayfield who's only real flaw is his height and even then I kinda doubt he starts.

Stafford, Cutler, Tyrod Taylor all had comp% below 60% in college and improved once they got to the NFL. It doesn't always work that way though. Allen played on a bad team in 2017 and was running for his life most of the time with receivers that dropped a lot of passes. Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 players in this year's draft and Allen is listed at 14th behind Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. Of those three listed the only one I like is Mayfield. All of them have warts IMO and Allen is no different. Rosen has durability issues and Darnold has fumbling issues. RANK 14 Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming Allen has ideal size, arm strength and mobility. At Wyoming, he split time underneath and in the shotgun. He has quick feet in his setup and a smooth, fluid release. He's at his best driving the ball to the outside. He generates outrageous velocity and can squeeze the ball into very tight windows. He must improve on touch throws, but he has shown the ability to change ball speed and throw with loft. He needs to throw with more anticipation and there are times where he really locks onto his initial read, which can lead to pass breakups and turnovers. While he has room to improve on his overall ball placement, there were numerous dropped balls by his receivers in every game I studied. Allen's combination of athleticism and strength allows him to avoid free rushers and shake off tacklers. He's an aggressive runner and he's been effective on designed QB runs as well as scrambles. Allen isn't a finished product, but he offers unlimited upside, provided his drafting team exercises patience.

Horsehockey! The kid wowed the scouts at the combine and senior bowl with his ability to put the ball right where it needed to be. Just know that whatever you have to say makes no difference to who this team will select in the draft! If you don't like him feel free to denigrate him every chance you get like you did with Taylor.