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It was an extra point. The last drop kicked field goal was in 1941. But yeah, if undoes the curse I'm all for it.

JK stays busy doing lots of things. Part of his Hunter's Hope duties include traveling to various state legislatures to implore them to include Leukodystrophies as part of the standard newborn screening process. There have been many advances in the treatments since HH was founded but only if the disease is detected at birth or shortly after. Still, most states don't require it to be tested for so often times the child is still diagnosed too late to benefit. If you follow JK you'll notice he goes on a lot of hunting trips. Many of those are actually fundraisers for Hunter's Hope. Places around the country like hunting clubs who want to raise money will often raffle off a "Spend The Day Hunting With Hall Of Famer Jim Kelly" grand prize. They give HH whatever the agreed amount, JK goes hunting for a day with the winner, and the club keeps the rest of the money as their fund raiser. And many of those celebrities that come to JK's annual golf tournament for Kelly For Kids also have tournaments of their own which JK is obligated to attend throughout the year for reciprocity's sake. Hard to get into coaching and do all that too. And besides, great players rarely make good coaches anyway.

Ugh.

There's even more to that story. The pick we used to draft Cousineau was obtained by trading OJ Simpson to San Francisco. So our 1969 1st round pick played for us until 1977, was traded in 1978 for a 1st in 1979 (and 4 other picks) when TC was drafted and then traded in 1982 for the 1983 JK pick, who of course played for us until 1996. That's pretty good mileage out that original 1969 pick. Yep. We gettin' up there.

ME: Perry Tuttle YOU: Who? ME: Exactly Two seasons in Buffalo, 16 games (4 games started) 24 receptions, 368 yards, 3 TDs Beyond Buffalo- Tampa Bay --- 3 games (0 games started) 0 receptions Atlanta --------- 5 games (0 games started) 1 reception, 7 yards End of career. Worst 1st round pick ever.

No. RFA player gets to sign only one offer sheet. That offer sheet is an actual contract that goes into effect with one team or the other, either immediately upon the Bills matching or once the 5 days are up without matching.

Probably just coming in to watch some round ball. Calling it a business trip to the Bills for the tax write off.

I thought they said it was only reported because somebody at the NFLPA screwed up and put it with the "signed" contracts instead of with the other ones that have to be sent in but aren't signed yet. If that's the case it wasn't really the agent's fault at all. EDIT: I see now it looks like they probably aren't supposed to share the info from the signed ones either they just always do. So yeah, this is what happens when everybody has to be the first to report and the inside source screws up.

Stop speaking in riddles. What's a crossing route?

Next year? What do your sources say about this year?

There's a big difference between tagging and trading now compared to back when they did it with Peerless Price. In PP's days you could tag the guy and then try to trade him. If you couldn't find a trade partner you could just let him go at any time all the way through training camp or even the season, or keep him at the tag rate and continue to negotiate or try to trade him. Ever since the 2006 CBA a tagged player can sign the tag tender and that money then becomes 100% guaranteed. Additionally, teams and tagged players only have until mid-July to reach long term deals or the player must play under the tag amount for the season. Those two factors make tagging a player with the intent of trading him much riskier than it used to be. In Gilmore's case, all he has to do is walk in and sign the tender and either the Bills or a new team are stuck paying a guaranteed $12+ million (with a $12+ million cap charge). This is a huge bargaining chip for Gilmore. Not only against the Bills but against any team that might want to trade for him. This is why you almost never see any players tagged and traded any more. And also why if a team is intent on not letting the player go for nothing they usually use the franchise tag instead. It's usually only a couple million more but gives the team a few more advantages if the player really wants to leave.

He already has $40.5 mil guaranteed in his first 2 years if he stays two years - or $30.5 mil guaranteed if he's only here 1 year. Your scenario doesn't add any money in the first 2 years.

$12M

Right. They either keep him beyond March 11th and choose how to apply his guaranteed money (exercise the option) or they cut him before March 11th to avoid paying any guaranteed money.

That is not true at all. He is under contract. The option isn't an option to extend his contract - a lot of people think it is, but it isn't. Tyrod Taylor's contract calls for him to make $27.5 mil in 2017. That money becomes guaranteed if he's still on the roster on March 11th. The option everyone refers to is the option to take $15.5 million of that salary and convert it into a proratable signing bonus. It's a misnomer when people say "pick up the option" to think that means not picking up the option means cutting him. They are 2 different things. What people really mean is the Bills have to decide whether to cut Taylor or keep him before March 11th when it all becomes guaranteed, and if they keep him they have the option to convert a large chunk of it into a bonus.

The franchise tag is only good for players whose contracts expire on March 9th. And it has to be applied to a player before March 1st. TT's contract doesn't expire on March 8th. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't expire on March 11th either - regardless of whether they pick up the option. The option in Taylor's contract isn't an option for the Bills to extend his contract. His contract runs through 2021. The option is whether the Bills decide to either pay TT's guaranteed $27.5 mil entirely as 2017 salary or to convert $15.5 million of that salary into a signing bonus that can be prorated. The other option the Bills have is to release (cut) Taylor before the guarantee kicks in (March 11th). If they do that, TT immediately becomes an unrestricted free agent - not a pending free agent whose contract is set to run out. And they all knew exactly what they were doing. Lots of players have large option bonuses due in the first couple days of the league year. This is nothing new. It's negotiated that way by the players in order to force a team into deciding whether to keep them or cut them loose without making the player wait until July or August to find out.

No I was talking about guaranteed money to the other poster who was claiming he's only guaranteed $27 mil on a 5 year deal. But that's not true. As soon as the league year starts in 2018 TT's entire 2018 salary becomes guaranteed. That means it's a $27.5 mil guarantee if we only keep him one year. If we keep him for 2+ years as everyone suggests, it's a $40.5 million guarantee.

Neither tag is an option. The tags are for players who will become free agents when their contracts expire on March 9th. TT is under contract through 2021 unless the Bills release him. You can't cut a player and then put the tag on him.

It's $27.5 mil guaranteed if we keep him for 1 year. That's higher than top 15ish. As soon as the second year starts his guaranteed money goes up to $40.5 mil on the 5 year contract..

$18.35M

This thread reminds me of typing "misheard lyrics - Yellow Ledbetter" on Utoob. But for all intensive purposes it's good for a laugh. I couldn't go from one post to the next without chuckling, little lone trying to read the whole thing at once. PS - I voted for Tom Coughlin. Not for nothin' but I figure since he started his head coaching career at RIT that's close enough to Buffalo to qualify him as the best Particle Sun this half-fast thread can a bite by. Make me fries.

Ha ha good catch. Last I knew the place was actually making that "Jamaican" Red Stripe beer.

Whenever I'm flying back from Florida on New Year's Day I always stop off in Latrobe, PA. Gotta get a six pack of Rolling Rock to start the year off right ya know.

I understand that. My response was mostly in response to the article questioning whether it was an illegal act - which seems like quite a stretch.