Chuck Wagon

Do you watch Wilson or ever watch Flutie? They never got hit, they take what is/was given them and got down right away. Johnny doesn't shy away from contact, which is insane for a guy his size. Cam is built like a tank and he's really started to show the impact of not getting down. Wilson/Flutie are on a whole different level than Manziel when it comes to football intelligence. Russell always makes the right decision, if you give him 5 yards he's taking 5 yards. Johnny always thinks about the big play. He got away with a lot in college because he had an NFL caliber line and Mike Evans going against severe mismatches. The Cams and Big Bens of the world get rocked when they play sandlot football, there's no way Johnny can hold up with his style. Simply put, Johnny doesn't get it. He skated by on athletic ability and being on a loaded team in college. He's clearly a kid whose always been able to talk his way out of any trouble, which is why he always says the right things, however actions trump words every time and his chronic lateness, complete lack of preparation when he got his chance and continued party lifestyle show he has no clue what it takes and isn't willing to put in the work. He doesn't have the fire in his belly to be great, he was born with a silver spoon and likely has already been rewarded handsomely with his brand potential. What's with the other "Brown" in the commercial who looks like he's about 55 years old. Snickers couldn't find a guy in his 20s to say 1 line?

When it comes to coach desired destinations, it's all on the QB. There was a reason Atlanta was on the top of everyone's wish list for jobs and it's not because of weather. It's rare that jobs with entrenched star quality QBs come open and when they do everyone is interested. That's why Cowher and Gruden haven't come back, why give up a cushy job making more than enough money when you need to work with the Geno Smith/Jay Cutler/EJ Manuels of the world? If Indy or Green Bay suddenly came calling, the Grudens of the world would surely be interested, but no one wants to take a job to get fired unless it's an assistant knowing his next chance might not come or a guy like Rex who knows stepping away from the game even for a year will make it very difficult to get back into the head coach rotation.

I'm hopeful one of Maxx Williams, Walford, or Funchess will be there at #50.

I've wondered about Ari, if bringing him in would help with Cyrus's development.

Go Bobcats!

Schefter has been all over pumping up Marrone every chance he's gotten. I've heard him on Mike & Mike and on NFL radio repeating the same company line about "Believing he'll be at the top of coaching lists next year". I'll never say never, but unless Marrone turns the Jags line into the 2nd coming of Dallas's line and has a big hand in turning Bortles into Luck 2.0, no one is selling their fans on an under .500 career coach who walked out on his contract and preceded to torch every bridge in sight in the process. Even then, he's definitly not getting a better job than the one he walked out on. I do believe if he's a head coach again it will be in college, or if it's at the NFL level it'll be one SEVERAL people have passed on. It seems to me it's pretty clear Doug, Sexton and Woody had come to an illegal agreement while Doug was still under contract with the Bills. Doug opted out and Woody ran straight to the press about how excited he was. Casserly and co. that are advising Woody slammed on the breaks with the Revis tampering situation already in play and the NY media trashed St. Doug, taking the shine off the hire. The Jets decided it wasn't worth the mess and went with another good candidate in Bowles.

If we got Clive Walford, Nick Boyle and Laken Tomlinson I'd be thrilled. You'll get nothing and like it.

Rhodes didn't need the money, he wasn't going to play unless someone paid him premier safety money. He had plenty of offers to continue his career, he just wasn't going to do it below what he valued his services at and was comfortable being able to walk away. Anyone who can't see the difference between Incognito and Sherman isn't worth the effort. Richie has always been the same guy who got himself kicked out of Nebraska and booted out of Oregon within a matter of days. Even then he's been given countless opportunities. Blount punched a kid in the face at Oregon and quit on the Steelers just a few months ago, he barely cleared waivers before he was back as the main back in New England. If you can play, as long as you are not in prison you'll be given opportunities until you prove you can't play anymore.

I really don't understand all the hate for this Seattle team. Everyone complains about how boring and unnecessary most athlete press conferences are accross all of sports, then these guys come out unafraid to actually say what we are all thinking and they get ripped as well. What do you want? Boring and pointless or entertaining and outspoken? Neither? To me this Seattle team is incredibly fun to watch and follow. They aren't afraid at all about what someone might put up on a billboard, they are going to go out and smack you in the mouth on both sides of the ball. Everyone wants Sherman out of the league because Fox stuck a mic in front of him at the wrong time or because he says the same stuff you say to your buddy at the bar. It's ridiculous, it's supposed to be entertaining and the Seattle guys are not afraid of having to eat their words. It's a refreshing throwback to the pre-24/7 news cycle and pre twitter era.

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Yes, Ebron - Martin - Beckham are the ones most often cited as being linked to us. Ebron really struggled last year. Given the way Marrone treated a lot of what Whaley did, there's no guarantees Martin would have been used properly (ie shifted to guard) here and there's no guarantees he'd be near as good if we'd stuck him at RT. As for Beckham, it's been discussed thoroughly but the Giants force fed him to a level way beyond anything we did for Sammy. ODB is a great player, but if he were here with Orton playing not to get hurt and Sammy was with the Giants, does anyone really think the production would not have been flipped? ODB is so much revisionist history. When we were looking at him at #9 it was widely believed we were over valuing him. When the move was made for Sammy, no one was saying "we could have just sat at 9 and gotten an equal (or better) player in Beckham." EVERYONE had Sammy and Evans as a level above ODB as a prospect. We can complain all we want about Whaley screwing up if that's what you want to do, but 11 other teams valued players above ODB as well and the simple truth is the odds are very low we gave up a hall of famer at #19 this year to make sure we got the guy who was widely viewed as the #1 WR prospect, at very least 1A-B prospect. Knowing the Browns, the odds are also very low they'll be looking at us and laughing about this deal in 5 years.

ODB is the thing that makes the trade last year so bad to the "hindsight is 20/20" crowd. The narrative ignores that we likely would have taken Ebron (who struggled all year) or that it looks like Cleveland might have whiffed on Gilbert. The "draft was so deep at WR" ignores that guys like Matthews and Landry were able to make plays as afterthoughts in the defensive planning. As for '15 to '14, outside of Jameis' potential (which is accompanied by a myriad of off field concerns) and Leonard Williams, the next best guys are Cooper (who is built like Sammy but nowhere near Sammy's top gear in the speed/explosiveness department) and a couple of tweener DE/LBs a notch below Mack. Simply put Whaley thought we were very close to the playoffs and it turned out he was right. I don't see anyone questioning Sammy being a very good player, I just see the "yeah but you could have Beckham and a 1st" which is entirely hindsight as everyone had Beckham clearly a notch below the top prospects.

It's ESPN, every player hates playing for Buffalo and wants to get out ASAP.

Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell can play too. NFL QB is all about guys who spend almost every waking moment improving at QB. When guys have all the tools but give half the effort, you end up with Jeff George and Jay Cutler. When guys don't get it at all you end up with Vince Young, Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell. Johnny knows how to play the media and likely knows how to tell the Browns everything they want to hear, but actions speak much louder and this isn't simply a kid who needs to grow up, it's a kid who was born with a silver spoon who doesn't know what no means. I would be semi-shocked if he's even in the league in 5 years and I'd be totally shocked if he ends up as a productive long term starter.

I'm not a Bamer, but I've watched them 7-8 times this year. His decision making is not NFL caliber and the reports from Day 1 of the Senior Bowl was he was the worst QB prospect by far. Cooper was the primary option on a very high percentage of their throws, their passing offense often looked like the plan was "throw to Cooper, if he's double covered then run". I don't know if that was their gameplan or Sims' struggles to get through progressions, but more often than not if the ball went to anyone but Cooper it's because the player was WIDE open. Sims reminds me a lot of Joe Webb. He's athletic enough that he can make a roster as a utility guy who plays some WR, some special teams and is an emergency QB. I do not see him as a legitimate QB prospect, especially not one worth taking in the first 5 rounds.

That's what I think. I could see them going into '15 with Foles & Mettenberger at QB while taking the cache of draft picks from Philly.

I hate the "real fantasy draft" angle. I thought it was going to be pretty cool to see how the team would be built (would someone take 5 qbs leaving 1 for the other team? Would someone take all the wrs?) instead they dumbed it down to the level where 7 year old could pick the teams.

I'm assuming Tampa will take Jameis. Considering the Titans Qb situation (or lack there of), I'd have believe they'd want Foles as part of the package. Foles, pick #20, #53 & conditional '15 pick for #2?

Watch your back Gus.

Not going to happen. The league isn't going to put us in a premier game until we earn it. Look at last year's Thanksgiving game, they put Packers-Lions on CBS when everything lined up that it should be the Bills or Dolphins. We might get an actual Monday night game this year instead of just a garbage Thursday night game to fulfill the "every team gets a primetime game" rule, but we are not getting the first game of the year.

Everyone can say they'd take the money, but if Sammy threw the ball to you and called you the next day offering a team signed helmet, his game jersey and SB tickets to watch the Bills in the Super Bowl it's going to be a very hard decision.

Blake Sims won't be a NFL QB. Paul Finebaum has hinted around several times that he's not mentally able to even handle all of Alabama's playbook, much less everything involved with a NFL system. Add in his size and his invite to the senior bowl really shows the lack of QB depth in this class. Petty in the 4th round is a pipe dream. I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Hundley push the late 1st but surely go in day 2.

Since 1971 the league leading rusher was drafted outside of the first 3 rounds just 3 times: Arian Foster - A guy everyone clearly missed on Priest Holmes - Backup to Heisman trophy winning Ricky Williams Terrell Davis - perfect system for him in Denver, another guy people missed on In 2014 we are fully into the "don't draft RBs early" era. 14 backs rushed for over 964 yards. 4 (Forsett - career backup, Marshawn's backup in college / Foster / Alfred Morris / Lamar Miller) were drafted after the 3rd round. Yes, you can find RBs late or in the mid rounds. Just like you can find QBs, WRs, pass rushers and corners late. But you are going to go through a bunch of lumps of coal before you find a diamond and the belief that every year there's several thousand yard backs available after round 3 is simply a myth.

The league is clearly swinging back to bell cow backs who can do a lot of things and touch the ball 20+ times a game from where they were just a few years ago with the extreme RBBC approach. It takes the casual public a little while to catch up.

That's what I think. Special backs are still special backs, sure an all world line is going to make an average back look good, but Trent Richardson or Chris Johnson isn't running for 1,800 yards, even behind that Cowboys line. I'm not saying hand a back a $50 mil deal, but simple moneyball principles say when things swing so far in one direction that RB contracts are severly devalued, it's worth pursing a top back at a discount rate. People are again looking at exceptions as rules. Every year the same backs are very good (Peterson, Lynch, Charles, McCoy, LeVeon Bell, Lacy, Murray, Gore, Forte) and almost all of them went in the first 2-3 rounds of the draft. The idea "you can find a running back in the 7th round" has become widely accepted and isn't nearly as true as the common belief holds. For every Alfred Morris there's 10 Ronnie Wingos who never do anything. Some people seem to believe that because Alfred Morris and Tom Brady hit there's no reason to draft in the first 3 rounds. If you have a strong passing game and a good oline, you can definitely get by with the LaGarrette Blounts or Joique Bells of the world. But if you are going to go with a below average QB and win by running and defense, you need a special running back. Our backs are good situational players, but unless Bryce Brown realizes his full potential, we don't have a back on the roster capable of 400 carries in a year and being the focal point of a ground and pound attack. He played 14 games in '13 and ran for 1,121 yards on a 5.2 average. His rookie year he didn't see real work until mid October and finished just under 900 yards (897) with a 5.5 yard average. He'll be 27 in about a month and surely has at least 2-3 more solid years in his legs. He broke his ankle at the end of his rookie year and missed 6 games in '12 with a sprained foot, for all his supposed injury woes it's not like he completely tore up his knee like McGahee or blew his ACL and broke his hip like Gore.