Chuck Wagon

I'm not saying we couldn't benefit from having our 1st, that's obviously not true, however.... If the last couple of years are any indications the guys who are going in the first aren't really spots we need. QB obviously but both of Jameis or Mariota will be long gone by 19 and everyone else is a major wildcard. Otherwise teams have been going almost exclusively with pass rushers, wide receivers, left tackles and corners in round 1. We are stocked up at all those positions. Our biggest needs appear to be interior line and TE and if the last few years are any indications there should be very good prospects in those positions available at pick 50.

The only one that really bothers me is TJ Graham over Russell Wilson when we did not have a single young QB prospect on the roster. But Whaley wasn't making the calls yet on that one.

Wait until the Jets hire him and the NY centric media spins it as we just wanted to keep him away from the Jets.

All indications look like it's all about EJ this year. He's now had 2 years in the league, one where he was forced into perhaps too much too soon and one where he sat almost the entire year. Now that we are past losing our pick, I'm completely fine riding EJ. I'd like to bring in a vet who will help him but not push him (like the Andrew Luck - Matt Hasselbeck) relationship and take a developmental guy in the 5th round. People act like they know Bradford or Cutler would surely put us in the playoffs and it's a ridiculous notion. Support EJ, get him a good coach and a vet to sit in the room with him and let him sink or swim. If he flames out we'll be in a position to get a new QB next year.

I think a lot of it is people seeing the opportunity cost, mainly Odell Beckham. However, something that clearly stands out is Beckham's targets (132 in 12 games, 116 in his last 9 games) vs Sammy's targets (128 in 16 games, 67 in his last 9 games). Simply put the Giants were forcing the ball to Beckham while losing games (4-8 in games beckham played, 1 win was his first game where he only had 5 targets). We had our offensive struggles and perhaps did not utilize Sammy to his full ability yet finished with our first winning record in years. Beckham is similar to the Brady draft rule. No one believed he would be this good, otherwise he would have challenged for the #1 pick. It takes a tremendous amount of hindsight to say "we really screwed the pooch there, could have had Beckham and our pick". No one is operating in hindsight in the draft and Sammy looks like a real player as well. If anything we should be more inclined to believe in Whaley as Beckham and Zach Martin were the other guys besides Ebron we were targeting at 9, both of those guys were panned as reaches there and they look like two of the best rookies so far.

Like HBO is going to skip out on putting Johnny Football front and center. The Browns can't say no this year.

It's also very likely they were far from sold on Marrone but knew it would be a PR disaster if they fired the first coach to post a winning record in a decade. This way they get to hand pick their guy and Doug looks like the bad guy.

The 49ers know Roman better than anyone and have an opening at HC. That's enough of a red flag for me.

I think he's coming back. He might not be the sharpest crayon in the box but he has to see the Manziel affect and know there's a chance he falls out of the first round. He can come back, keep his nose clean for a year and be the #1 overall pick. It's all Mariota right now. Most of Jameis off the field incidents can be written off as a college kid having fun and not fully understanding the microscope he's under. The assault charges are alarming but ultimately a "he said, she said" situation with no real evidence. I know, I'm new to the board, still figuring out the mechanics, but thanks for having my back.

Carr looked pretty good in their Thursday night game vs KC and in their win against San Fran. Our defense made Rodgers look pedestrian. And again, he was playing with perhaps the least offensive talent in the entire league. I know I'd trade EJ for Carr in a heartbeat and I'm pretty sure it would be a quick no from Oakland.

Bridgewater should not require any explanation. As for Carr, the guy can make all the throws, EJ can't. The offensive talent surrounding Carr makes us look like a pro bowl squad.

I think his credibility has taken a huge hit. I would not be surprised one bit if he overplayed his hand believing he would get hired somewhere else for sure and I would not be surprised if that doesn't happen. Given the Revis tampering situation, the lack of GM and the items coming out about Marrone's character it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets decided to pass. If the rumors about an extension for Marrone being in place in principle are true and he suddenly did a 180, you had better believe there's a tampering charge coming if the Jets hire him. Jim Mora Jr. looked like their leading target before the Marrone news and it looks like they are back around to him. Rex looks like a go in Atlanta. The guys who said no to the Jets GM job are the leading candidates for the Bears GM job, if Marrone scared them away from NY they'll certainly not hire him in Chicago. It looks like San Fran, Oakland or the Bills will be hiring the Shanahans. Marrone is billed as an offensive guy, at the very least all the reports surfacing are going to force teams to think twice about him. It doesn't take a genius to see our offense was bad this year. He's certainly fighting an uphill battle to land in a better situation than the one he walked out on.

Drafting EJ was where we screwed up in the first place. Our advanced scouting should have told us there were much better options the next year (ESPN's talking heads were all saying there were several prospects better than EJ in the 2014 draft as soon as he was picked). Look at the players drafted after EJ: Kyle Long, Eric Reid, DeAndre Hopkins, Sheriff Floyd just to name a few. We would have likely been worse last year had we just gone with Kolb/Lewis/Tuel at QB which would have put us in a position to get Sammy or Evans without moving up and been able to grab Bridgewater or Carr at the beginning of round 2 (or move up to the end of round 1). Pure and simple we talking ourselves into taking EJ in the first round and were the only team that placed that value on him. It created a trickle down that forced us to ignore two guys who look to be much better than him in last years draft and the need to give him weapons to justify the pick cost us a very good player this year.