Bills Fan of St Augustine

Horsesh*t! 2nd and two from the three and we line up in a spread with an empty back field?! BOOOOBie all day gets us a win. 1st and ten from the 15 and we throw four passes? Don't throw the easy throws to get a 1st down and maybe break it into the EZ? Or run the frigign ball? With a journeyman QB?! WTF?! Who do you think KO's supposed to be? Rogers, Luck, Manning, ??? Get a friggin grip. This team did not loose because Orton was Orton. We lost because of bonehead mistakes and very poor play selection at critical times. Hackett is overthinking and not calling plays that match his team's talent. Hackett failed big time with his playcalling in the red zone.

That is what a lot of people said last year going into the draft. Why waste high picks on non skill position personnel? OL need time to develop and sure, you can find them in later rounds if you can evaluate talent. Even then, very few in the later rounds will be athletes who can step in and play at a high level right away. I think all three of our picks last year may develop into solid lineman over time. They just weren't the answer for this year and now we're paying the price. If we follow your thinking, we are still a few years away from having a competent OL and only if these mid and late round picks develop.I'm glad your not the GM for my baseball team!

Very nice write up Bandit. Some interesting points to be sure. However, watch our line play and you come away with not a simple matter of a crease here and there or a back missing a hole but rather a DL in the backfield, an OG looking like they are in a daze and blocking no one at all! No skill player short of Barry Sanders could make up for the abysmal performance of these lineman. I don't have the time or energy you have put in to make your point, so kudos to you! But look for plays where Richardson or Pears fails to block anyone at all. See the number of times DL appear in the backfield on both run and pass because they beat the Bills OL. Failure to pick up stunts or blitzes. These are the real issues with the OL! Elite line play does move the line of scrimmage forward in any level of football. It does control the line of scrimmage. It does provide a hole so that the first player the back has to make miss is a DB or at worst a LB. Watch film of our own DL last year and why they failed to stop the run. They failed to control their space because they were blocked effectively. IMO the line looks much better with the simple Urbik upgrade. Pears is no guard and needs to be replaced. Just my opinion and great thread.

Damn right! I am flying up Sunday morning for this one! Go Bills!!

Exactly. We win if our OL can gel into a capable unit. We have no chance if they continue to play like monkey spit.

He say anything about the OL and plans for the future?

Really, you are a better man than me. The 70s were too hard and I still have flashbacks to the club foot shanking a game winning FG! Gotta root for SD and hope for injuries. Not life threatening of course but... Agreed and I'll still hope for injuries on both sides! Injuries to al Qaeda can be life threatening however!

I think your spot on. Levitre and Wood were both average run blockers and throw in Pears too. Over paying Levitre would have been a mistake, but not finding an average replacement was even a bigger one. Move Pears back out to RT and see how Henderson handles RG. With Urbik at LG and the other positions stable, I think we may be back to where we were at the end of last year. Not great, but not anywhere as putrid as we have played so far this year.

But that's why they play the games! Kc Royals hangover and the Chefs are mauled by the Jets! Hopefully they still win but get beat up. Bills win 23-17! Go Bills!

Wow, great post Simon - thanks! I would still argue that even with the best front 7 in football, you have still got to be able to run the ball and protect your QB to win the GD SB. But they can get you to the dance and then anything is possible. Thanks again!

Wood needs to stay at center and can play better. Why not move Pears back out to RT where he was only the 25th worst player rather than 30th at his position? Try any of the others at RG. The experiment is over and it failed. Try another..

What? I'd like to B word about that!

I expect them to be beat up after facing the Jets, who have the pride factor to play angry, and then coming into Buffalo who should be rested after a bye week. I plan to go to this one! Go Bills!!

That's what we said this year and got Kujo and then Cyrus....How many OL do you pick with high round draft picks?

Right now we just have to focus on beating the Chiefs at home after a bye week! Go Bills!!

I think on the second time around he slowed down and angled off to the right to eat up a few extra seconds. Different scenario. I didn't see it as hotdog at all, but the first time needs to be the last! He cost me six GD points in my FL!

No one taught Williams a damn thing about leverage and quickness, he's been doing it that way his whole career and in college too. Why the dis on Mike Williams (cut him) I must have missed something?? Great effort by QB and the D. OL got stuffed, but not embarrassed like in the last game. Hld their own with Urbek at LG. Pears still looks terrible. Wood was nothing to write home about and had his hands full with a bigger physical NG. He needs help from a OG against this type of physical DL and can't be expected to always be the helper.

I'm looking for a big game by our TEs and D! Turnovers have to come and our TEs will run free all day. Jets are dead last covering TEs and with their pass rush and likely blitz packages, I see a lot of quick throws up the seam to Chandler and to Gragg. GoBills!

I tend to agree. I've been saying all along that skill player talent won't win the match up against a dominant DL when your OL is below average. The two teams have many similarities. They both have weak OLs, DBs and QBs and both have strong DLs. I think the Jets DL is probably a little better than ours (more physical) while we have the edge at QB and maybe DB. OLs are equally bad. We need both sides of our line to have big days and to control the line of scrimmage. If so, we win handily. If not, it will be a long day. Jets at home will be able to run the ball and we give up too many big plays and soft penalties. Jet 24 Bills 10. I really hope I'm wrong!

OC is entitled to his opinion. He may be a bit obsessive in his compulsive need to argue, but the man is entitled to his opinion. Perhaps its a disorder and he goes with "OCD"?

On the bench or in street clothes as his current level of talent warrants. Bills reached for both Cyrus and Cyril as most other teams past them over apparently as they could rate talent. Did you watch Richardson in the senior bowl? Wow! He looked like an overweight HS player playing against NFL caliber competition! Koujo slid as far as he did for a reason. These guys may develop, but not in time to help us this year.

I think your right with Urbek and though I will deny saying it some day, I long to have Williams back at LG. Anyone know how far away he is from returning? Low mediocre OG play is better than what we have today!

And sometimes, like right now, the OL looks terrible because they are....