BarleyNY

To the OP: I agree with all of your points, but I really didn't find any of them surprising. I liked the draft from both value and need perspectives, but there's only so much that can be accomplished in any single draft. The 2016 draft was never going to fix all of the team's woes, but I think it will fix some.

No kidding. The best part of that for them is they might get a great QB with the #1 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

It's very difficult not to really like this draft. Seriously. VERY solid. And I am not a Kool Aid drinker. Really liked it.

Well, I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

Problem is that he is athletic and looks like a pure LT for a zone scheme. He's not powerful at all so you're not getting much in the way of run blocking from him. Just not a fit here if the Bills are going to run a lot and with Glenn at LT.

Yeah. Got cash earnings from Spotrac. I'm sure he's got a minimum amount of money he will play for and it clearly isn't what the Jets are offering. $1M a year sure would support a pretty lavish lifestyle in my view. Maybe not as much for someone's who made his kind of money, but he's smart guy. He knows how to weigh the risks here. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/ryan-fitzpatrick/cash-earnings/

$39M in career earnings and a degree from Harvard. He's gonna be okay if he doesn't play again. This sort of situation is important with players that have made big money. Most won't play for anything but a premium contract after awhile. That's why so many are retiring when their play drops off. I remember Urlacher talking about it. He was diplomatic, but the gist was that he wasn't going to play for $2M. It just wasn't worth it to him after what he had already made.

I'm torn on Ragland. I see a player with a lot of risks and only a moderately high ceiling. He'd certainly fill a big need though.

An OT would be nice, but there's no one left I'd want to spend a mid 2nd round pick on. Gotta get value.

Tumbling still. Out of top 20. Damn.

Good pick. Very happy with Shaq. Was on my short list along with Doctson when they were on the clock.

Yup. He's got talent. I've seen him play live. At times you can't help but to think "Wow! Most QBs can't do that!" But he's such a tease. Always dinged, chronically injured. It's easy to think "But if we could just keep him healthy for a full season the sky would be the limit!" But I can't imagine he ever will be. Plus there's his pay. He was the last quarterback chosen number one overall the year before the rookie pay scale was implemented. He's made so much money that he won't play for anything but a big contract - and teams keep giving them to him. He's going to go down as the best paid, longest tenured, most talented quarterback that never did anything.

Thanks for the heads up!

A team should be able to trade for his contract. That would give them his rights should he unretire. Probably not a lot of takers on that though.

Disagree. Huge need and should definitely be in play.

Yeah. Unbelievable. I honestly think they were in the right place at the right time for Manning and then took full advantage of his injury when Luck was coming out. They knew what a guy like Peyton Manning meant to the team and they made sure they were going to get Luck. The real difference is that their FO doesn't look up to building a team around their FQB this time around. At least not their current FO.

The Colts didn't get lucky when they got Andrew Luck. They tanked for him. They wouldn't have had that chance had Peyton Manning not gotten injured, but they made sure they had absolute garbage at QB that season. It was a lot like the Sabres trading away every decent goalie they came across to get Eichel.

Would be ecstatic with this draft. Used CBS's board. WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU 49: R2P18 OT GERMAIN IFEDI TEXAS A&M 80: R3P17 OLB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO STATE 117: R4P19 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS 139: R4P41 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 156: R5P17 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY 192: R6P17 QB JACOBY BRISSETT NC STATE 218: R6P43 G ANTHONY FABIANO

I agree. He's gone by 8. Probably by 6. All injuries are not created equal. He looks like he will be fine.

Okay, I've mentioned this in one of the numerous similar threads, but give me some opinions regarding the possibilities for Tyrod's performance this season. I'll include mine: Improves substantially Effectively stays the same as in 2015 in all respects Falls off substantially The first and third seems pretty obvious. He either gets that big, market value deal (or tagged to buy time to agree to such a deal) or the Bills move on. But what if we get the same from him? What if he pulls down the ball and runs in lieu of going through progressions when his first read isn't available? What if he runs well, but it causes him to miss 2-3 games because he's dinged? What if he's top 10 in efficiency stats (passer rating, QBR), but bottom 10 in production stats (attempts, yards) again? What do you do in this scenario? The one that is by far the toughest - and most likely? Working out a contract would be very difficult and highly unlikely in this case so I see him getting tagged if the Bills don't have decent options. Maybe even if they do. It's also why they need to draft or otherwise acquire another option. This weekend is a good chance for that.

He's probably going to get traded or released after 2016. If he plays well and stays healthy Philly will trade him to a team that will want to lock him down for longer because no one will give much for him on a one year deal. That means he will still have say in where he goes. There's a chance that the Iggles would keep him for the 2017 if they weren't ready to move on to Wentz, but that would be what he signed up for. If he doesn't play well/stay healthy he'll get paid $22M for one season (or less) of quarterbacking the Iggles and can move on to wherever he wants. They aren't going to keep him on the bench for an extra $13M.

Maybe some people would be angry about having to compete. But I'd wager that if the company in question had enticed most of us into signing a 2 year contract with them by offering us $35M, including $22M guaranteed, then most of us would be okay with the situation. In NFL terms that's a pretty good QB money, but a 2 year deal isn't a big commitment. It's a "show me" deal.

Yep there's always the tag. But let's not get ahead of ourselves…..

Yup.

My favorite part was him dropping a couple dozen F bombs, the b-word multiple times and even the n-word a couple times, but using a euphemism for ass. 'Cause he wouldn't want to come off as crude or anything.