BarleyNY
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Good for Mitch.
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8 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Weird. I get that Denver is on the hook for $39m, but if I’m Wilson I’d want the Steelers to commit more to me than the vet minimum. Steelers can move on or cut him if he struggles at all without thinking twice.
This is due to his Denver contract containing offset language. Whatever he gets paid this season by another team gets deducted from what Denver has to pay him.
Also the Steelers play at Denver this year.
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
it would be pretty surprising if we didn’t agree to terms with multiple UFA’s by Wednesday. Some players take their time, but many others / agents have already had discussions and know who is interested and the places they’d like to goIf things shake out that quickly, then sure. I guess things have gone more quickly since the legal tampering period was instituted. I just don’t expect the Bills to make any of the big ticket signing we will see on Wednesday.
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13 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
Being active this week is far from rushing
Are you saying that you think they’ll sign someone during the first wave or that teams will get into the second wave this week?
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I don’t think the Bills rush into signing this week. Maybe they bring back one or two of their own, but I think they wait for the second and third waves.
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No. I posted this thought earlier today. Other than Allen, there’s no elite player on the Bills. They have some really good ones - Oliver, Milano, Cook, Dawkins, Kincaid and probably still Diggs for another season. But no one besides Allen is keeping HCs and coordinators up at night.
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8 minutes ago, Chaos said:
Hope this clears things up for the confused. I am not going to do the research, but I am guessing Knox is the highest paid TE2 in the NFL.
Not really. Actual player usage is what is important - and right now their usage is different. Which player someone labels TE1 is immaterial. That was my point, not that a specific player deserves that label.
Edited to add: I think the long-term plan is for Kincaid to develop as a blocker and become a do-it-all TE. That will pave the way for the team to move on from Knox. But Kincaid is not there yet.
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2 hours ago, Chaos said:
There is no debate. Kincaid is TE1.
He’s certainly a better receiver than Knox, but he hasn’t learned to be an effective blocker yet. That limits his usefulness to the slot while Knox can play in-line. Until Kincaid develops as a blocker those two play different positions, even if they’re both labeled TEs.
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35 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Committed ? They can move on from him in 1 year if they need to..Sure, if they don’t mind paying him $50M for that one season.
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36 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
I think the problem is if they trade him or cut him theres a huge dead cap hit. Realistically , what could they trade him for?
He still has value as a WR but the new team would take on a $19M salary. Maybe a 4th plus. A 3rd if we are lucky. I think it’s becoming more of a situation where we need to part ways because the relationship is deteriorating. That’s tough when you’re revamping a position group. You don’t want a disgruntled star player to negatively impact the youth.
The cap hit is bad. But the other side of that coin is that keeping him adds $19M to his total cap liability. Trading him involves a difficult, but manageable short term cap hit. Long term it’s probably worth it, especially if we get the Diggs from the second half of the season. Or worse.
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7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Joe Marino from Locked on Bills does some really good work. I watch a lot of his stuff.
He did a video the other day where he played the role of Brandon Beane and took the wheel in Free Agency. Broke things down pretty well in a realistic fashion, why each player fits, and included forecasted numbers from Pro Football Focus.
Here's the video with Cliff notes below of the moves he suggested:
Re-Structure QB Josh Allen - Saves 24m
Re-Structure TE Dawson Knox - Saves 6m
Re-Structure DT Ed Oliver - Saves 3.94m
Extend OT Dion Dawkins - Saves 6.5m
Extend CB Taron Johnson - Saves 4.4m
36.6m Under (+10.2m on 6/1 from Tre)
Re-Sign DT Daquan Jones - 2 yr 12m
Re-Sign DE AJ Epenesa - 3 yr 20.25m
Re-Sign CB Dane Jackson - 1 yr 3m
Re-Sign CB Cam Lewis - 1 yr 2m
Re-Sign RB Ty Johnson - 1 yr 1.2mSign DT Shelby Harris - 1 yr 3m
Sign DT Greg Gaines - 1 yr 2m
Sign DE Carl Lawson - 1 yr 3.5m
Sign S Alohi Gilman - 2 yr 6m
Sign S Ashtyn Davis - 1 yr 2m
Sign C Brian Allen - (Forgets to say contract)
Sign OT Kendall Lamm - 1 yr 1.5m
Sign WR Noah Brown - 2 yr 7m
Sign WR/KR Devin Duvernay - 2 yr 6m
Sign RB Ezekiel Elliott - 1 yr 2.5m
Sign LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 1 yr 1.5mI think that this is reasonable and that it will be the general direction that the Bills take. But it highlights my concerns with the team. The roster looks solid, but other than Allen it lacks difference makers. Some quality players will be on the roster for sure. Oliver and Milano on defense. Cook, Dawkins, Kincaid and Diggs on offense. But none of them are keeping HCs and coordinators up at night. Allen is going to need a lot more help.
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15 minutes ago, AZSanta said:
I've posted a thread on this topic and irt was met with major criticism. I still believe he is a top WR in the NFL when properly motivated. My take is this he quit on the team. He has been griping about the way the team is run for 2 years now. I think he has a problem with Mcdermott's coaching style and possibly his personality . He has seen his coach lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs 3 years now. One of which was a heartbreaking, stunning loss when they had the lead with 13 seconds left in the game. IN the Philly game. this past season, he took himself out of the game on several occasions on third down with the game on the line. The offense is totally different and much easier to defend without him on the filed. People tried to tell me he was winded or hurt. He is a well conditioned top athlete and prides himself on offseason training. The guy has a work ethic unmatched by a lot NFL players. He is not going to take himself out of the game because he is out of winded. You can see it his body language. He wasn't going all out for balls and had several uncharacteristic drops in the final 8 games of the season. Was he injured? He was never on any injury report. Correct me if i am wrong but that is illegal in the NFL for an injured player to practice all week and play without being on an injury report. His brother has been dissing the Bills and is probably constantly in his ear to get out of Buffalo. I simply believe he has become disenchanted with the team and wants out of Buffalo. The only way to do that is to force a trade by not giving your all in games and by giving hints you want out. This is the only thing that makes sense to me.
I think the injury reporting rule is that teams are required to report any injury that prevents a player from practicing or practicing fully - or is otherwise significant. He could’ve been dinged, but not so much so that it prevented him from practicing.
That said, it’s been obvious that he hasn’t been happy here for years. It’s entirely plausible that his effort and desire to stay on the field aren’t what they should be. He could not have been happy with Brady’s focus on the run game. It’s probably best for the Bills to move on ASAP. My prediction is that either the Bills trade him or things get worse with him and the team. He’s been quiet, but that won’t last forever.
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15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Of course he's going to do the best for the team.
But if you think he and Von didn't have a discussion about future plans for the position before he gifted over close to 9m in a cut, choosing to turn them into incentives that he didn't have to do - in regards to whether he'll have a good chance to hit them or not before he agreed to it - I think you're kidding yourself.
He's going to insure he's not 100% putting all his eggs into the Von basket and has insurance there. But there's a big difference between covering our butts and completely closing the door on any possible chance Von could start before seeing him in Training Camp.
I would be very disappointed in Beane if he gave Von Miller assurances of playing time or that he would not bring in another quality DE. I just can’t see that happening. Von should earn his time on the field just like everyone else. I would also be disappointed if Beane relied on Miller to be a quality player this season. The Bills have to have another viable starting caliber DE in case Miller does not round back into form.
That's just for this season. It doesn’t even address our DE needs in 2025 and beyond. The odds that Von Miller will be here in 2025 are close to 0. We need someone in the pipeline. It doesn’t have to be a Mack or Bosa, but we need someone worthy of playing time.
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13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
He doesn't create separation like he did even in 2021.
He’s falling off to be sure. I expect him to be a top 32 WR this season, but I have no such expectations beyond that. We need to restock the WR position and the draft is the place to do that. Well, that and the trade market if we can swing something there for a younger player.
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1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
I hate it here in the Youngstown area... it's like being in a place where all the people that gave a crap all left, leaving *mostly* old people and the dregs of society. The people that live on my street leave trash in their yards, let their kids do what they want, loud bass/music, cars and trucks with no bumpers and busted out headlights (as the geniuses here have no annual inspections) and recently my car was stolen after we got back from the fair but was recovered.
I am the sort of person who enjoys both the city and country myself, a rare person these days. I can't take the cold that I love anymore because my lungs are shot so we were contemplating New Mexico or just buying a large RV and sticking to the southwest... anything but this miserable rainy and cold hellscape!
I grew up in the Cleveland suburbs and lived the first 42 years of my life in the Cleveland and Columbus areas. I’ve only ever been to Youngstown a few times - and that was for work. It’s just not a place even Ohioans go, mostly for the reasons you gave. Godspeed at getting to a place more to your liking.
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24 minutes ago, H2o said:
I'm sure they'll do some restructuring and whatnot, but this trade puts Cleveland almost $5M over the cap. They are basically running it back, but with Jerry Jeudy and the molester under Center.
The Browns can easily create a great deal of cap space. That’s a non-issue for them.
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Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:
as someone else mentioned, now that we have Trubisky we could get inside intel on how he isExcellent point.
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4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
His cap hit is 15 mil. Not sure what acquiring team takes on ?
His base salary is 7 mil so I believe that could be converted to a bonus
He would cost the team trading for him $10M. $7M salary plus $3M roster bonus due on 3/16. I’m sure he wants an extension so that would be part of the whole situation. So much of his trade value hinges on his contract demands. He’d be a very nice get though.
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19 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:
Fo sho
think they could get a first for him tho??
No chance. He will be 30 before the season starts. His cash this season is $10.3M, which is excellent for an above average LT (which he has comfortably been). A big issue would be that he is under contract for only this season so any team trading for him would have to extend him. That’s not going to be cheap. And there’s the question of how he will hold up. His weight issues are well known. To his credit he’s always rounded into shape and played well. But as he plays into his 30s that gets sketchier. Plus if the Bills are looking to trade him, then that’s a red flag to other teams.
I’m not sure how telling him to play out his deal would go over though. This is extension time. The Bills legit might have to move him if they can’t come to an agreement on an extension.
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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:
Courtland Sutton is nothing like Gabe Davis imo
He's a legit NFL target w a much more polished skillset
I think Sutton is a much better version of the kind of WT Gabe is. He certainly has much better hands. Neither are good at quickly separating though - and that was the issue here with Gabe. If you need an X WR to threaten the sideline, then you can do a lot worse than Sutton, though he is not a burner (again, similar to Gabe on that). I just don’t see him as a great fit if we are going to stick with quicker hitting routes though.
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21 minutes ago, dpberr said:
I think Watson is in Operation Quiet Quit. Just sit back, go through the motions and collect the checks with the "let's not get ourselves killed out there!" mentality. I doubt he will ever play a full season for the Browns simply because he has no desire to do so.
I see this type of thing posted here a fair bit and it makes no sense to me. He’s been there two seasons and was suspended for almost all of the first. Then he broke his throwing shoulder last season while playing through an ankle injury. I get why people don’t like the guy, but not why they make stuff up about him.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
Sounds like Cleveland is taking his entire cap hit on, so this wouldn't have been feasible for us. Stay the course. Sign one of the 2nd or 3rd tier WRs and draft two more by the end of R4.
Looks like it. Almost $13M for his 5th year option salary. That’s why he was so cheap. I do think the Bills could handle that for a player they want though.
1 hour ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:5th & 6th for Sutton I hope Beane hammers that
He’s more expensive than Jeudy though. His salary this season is $13.6M and $14M next so they Bills would have to really want him. I don’t love him as a player for the Bills. He’s a lot like Gabe Davis. He may get cut though, so there’s that.
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4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
So what happened then ?
Second thought: Less playing time than anticipated? IlThat is believed to be a criteria and he missed three games.
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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
We were the lowest 3rd and a minority coach got hired.
Last season weren’t there six 3rd round comp picks awarded? This season it’s 4. Not sure how that can be it.
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Russ signs 1yr $1.2M deal with Pittsburgh
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That makes no sense. The exact same amount of money hits Wilson’s bank account whether the Steelers pay him $1.2M, $5M or $35M. Every dollar they save this year can go to Wilson next year if he balls out. Or not if he doesn’t.