Dan

I truly hope you’re right! But I been waiting since week 5 for the Pats to lose a game.. and they keep finding ways and do just enough to win.

Can’t agree with this enough. Although I think we pretty much need to win out… this game is extremely important. With the division title pretty much out of reach now (unless the Pats just completely fall apart), we have to keep pa e with potential wild card teams, and a head to head win is big.

So posters can’t reference a season from 4 years ago to make a point, but you can reference a QB that played nearly 40years ago to make yours? I guess all that matters is the bills suck, and you’re here to tell us you’re right?

I think he’s lost a step, or I would say half a step. He’s still elite at avoiding the rush. But… teams employ a hybrid spy that closes any QB scramble lanes quickly… essentially they bait him into thinking he can run, but really can’t. They can do this… because the offense doesn’t push the ball downfield enough to back those LBs up. So they’re about to play roughly 5yds off the LOS, take away the short crossing passes and step into the lane if Josh decides to run. In the end.. Brady has failed to adjust his offense while the league has figured it out. Add to it, the inability to find a serious downfield WR and you get the type of games like last week. Add to the offensive struggles at adapting.. you have half the defense on IR. We’re down to what 3rd and 4th string DTs?

I sooooooo hope you’re right! I do.

This, for me, is it. The Bills staff looks at the year end stats and late playoff close loss. And think we’re close, let’s just keep things as is and we’ll get over the hump. But the league has caught up and figured them out. Add to it, older players that get injured every game and you have the 2025 Bills. I have every bit of confidence that they’re gonna pulled out more wins than losses and make the playoffs. I also have every bit of confidence that they’ll get beat, most likely, in the divisional round. The only think I’m not sure of….will Pegula say I want a SuperBowl and make changes to reflect that. NFL history is replete with great teams and coaches that were really good and always competitive, but got complacent and never reached their full potential. Unfortunately, if there aren’t significant coaching changes this offseason…that will be the fate of this team that we’ll all just need to accept. We had fun cheering for this team during the drought, I’ll have fun cheering for them during whatever this losing era will be called. It’s the Bills. We don’t get to win it all. That’s what I’ve long since known and finally resigned myself to accept once again. Josh is a unicorn but even he can’t overcome the curse upon this franchise. Go Bills!

I’m going to suggest it’s more than just scheme. The offense looks a lot like it did last year, prior to acquiring Amari Cooper. Regardless of his actual production, he provided a consistent and respectable downfield threat that defenses had to account for. Once he arrived the entire offense looked better. They entered this year thinking Palmer could provide that. For a couple reasons, he simply has not. We have no one the defense has to respect on deep routes. Hence, they can crowd the line, clog the rushing lanes and get after Allen. Beane tried to pull another Amari type trade at the deadline, but he looked within the division. That, and thinking Palmer (or Coleman) would be a downfield threat, were huge mistakes that have left our offense in a bind. It’s predictable, inconsistent and easy to scheme against. Exactly as it was early last season. They need to hire a scout that can identify WR talent. Clearly, this front office lacks that ability.

Exactly my thoughts. They had a timeout. Just a good push and Allen gets the 1st down and it’s 4 shots to win the game. Such a simple and obvious decision.

I know that feeling! It’s exactly how I felt a couple weeks ago… when we were playing Miami. Man was that an easy win! I suggest you get to cookin something!!

Its stats like that… that give the coaching staff confidence that their system works.

There are times I truly believe this team/franchise is cursed. What kind of “luck” is that last year we were 8-2, had just beaten the undefeated Chiefs and had a very small chance of getting the 1 seed. Now, in 2025, we’re only one game worse. Yet only a small chance to even win our division because the Pats keep pullin miracles out of their arses. Not to mention, just as Josh ascended and we routinely are at least in play for the 2 seed… the league changes the playoff format and makes us play on WC weekend. I get that they need to stop having complete meltdown games like Miami. But I also feel like every year there’s just some force making every thing harder than it should be for the Bills. We just never seem to catch any breaks.

In all seriousness… has Samuel played in 2 consecutive games even once since he came here? Coleman may suck. But at least he’s on the field pretending to play. Samuel… I just don’t get it.

That doesn’t seem possible!

I think this is a point many people are missing. Yes, Josh. Was amazing. He threw downfield and WRs were open. BUT. A lot of that was because the Bucs loaded the LOS to stop Cook and the short WR passes. And they did. The difference in this game vs others… Josh (or Brady) realized it and opened the offense up. That’s all they need to do… take what the defense gives them. In this game it was WR medium to long passes; in other games it will be running the ball. Do what it takes to win.. and stop trying to impose your will.

That effort and attitude are more important than in-game production

Yes, I did.

I absolutely and emphatically agree!

Shavers an UDFA, boarder line starter playing over Coleman says all you need to know about McD. Go Bills!

Agreed on Taron. But he’s definitely beginning to decline. I’ve always been an advocate of developing players.. which is why you draft not for players in the upcoming season, but players in 1 or 2 seasons. Given that.. they need to start looking for TJs replacement soon, IMO. I think Beane has been pretty good at this mindset. Of course, not all players work out, but it takes a couple years to really find out. Which makes the draft misses so much more harmful. Bishop is a good example, if he continues to improve and stays healthy… next year; and for many more years, we’re set. If he doesn’t… the secondary is in trouble for years. But it takes faith, a solid and stable coaching staff to develop players, and a player willing to continue working on his game for it all to succeed.

I think Bills fans are spoiled to even suggest this. Yes, the Bills have done this numerous times to weaker teams…. But it’s not really that common to get 3 or 4 score leads against divisional opponents. Whats more the dismay that follows the game when we only win by 10, rather than the 21 or more points that was wished for/expected. The Bills should win. There really need to win. But if it’s not a blowout multiscore lead at the half, it doesn’t mean the Bills aren’t good or taking them lightly. The team is dealing with a lot of injuries to key players, some will be out, some should absolutely be on a snap count. That, in and of itself, means this game is likely to be closer than a lot of folks would like. Go Bills!

Can all y’all give it a rest!? How about we start a thread and just call it the “piss and moan life sucks” thread. We play the Dolphins this week… and I was hoping to read about this week’s game here. Not hypothetical matchups in 2 or 3 months. And non stopping whining about how horrible our team and the FO is. Just go to Chiefs planet or Bengals Board of awesomeness and profess your love of their receivers there. Please. Just go.

Same here… but a first from the Bills is totally less than a first from most other teams. Point being, our first may not have been nearly enough. Not to mention, the dolphins (and jets) are in bad shape.. but even they see the problem with trading a starting WR to Josh.

I would argue, that if the Bills were losing by 6pts or less… they would have done more to move the ball at the end of the game. And at the very least, it would have been an easier FG attempt. Bills got the ball back with just over 4mins in the game, up by 7, and were clearly playing to run the clock down. They converted 2 first downs with great play calls to get to the 2 min warning. On the fringes of FG range, that's when the went into conservative mode with 3 dive plays to safely drain the clock. If Prater makes the kick, none of this is discussed. Similarly, I think if needed, the Bills could have gotten at least one more first down and iced the game. McD chose the long FG, and it nearly cost them. But, it was a good bet even if it made every one of us stop breathing for 22 game seconds.

Just to saying..yesterday’s win kinda changes things. The Bills’ Super Bowl window has been flung wide open. I say put all the chips in the table, trade whatever picks you need to… but get playmakers in that will put them over the top. Get the right players.. and it’s a legacy, career defining move if they make the Super Bowl. Do we really need a #32 pick next year? It’s not good to mortgage the future.. but in this instance… go for it all!

Sucks for the kid. Never want someone’s dream cut short like this. Hopefully, he does what’s best for a long, healthy life.