Prickly Pete

Weak.

Don't bother man. These kind of people aren't looking for reasoning, it's a deep seated fear that motivates their resistance. A Buffalo Bills message board is an unlikely place to change racist viewpoints.

It makes some people happy to be defiant against obvious wrongs. Many secretly seem to feel that the "white man" is slowly having his privileged position in society eroded, so they resist changing what is obviously a derogatory name. Sad really.

Who here is white?

Why are you asking this? It's insulting to Eric Moulds, a great player that had his talents wasted in a career playing for an inept organization.

The old "Well, we just might have to move to LA" ploy. I'm glad they are using that same old threat. If they use it in enough cities, maybe it will lose it's effectiveness. Crying wolf again, the bastards. The whole stadium blackmail tactics are a complete disgrace, right up there with Wall St. bailouts. It's sickens me. I have not directly given the Bills a dollar since 1991.

If large amounts of people stopped going to games, they would lower the prices, or even make the games free. That's how important a large audience is to the games, and the televised product.

I kind of agree, but if no one was there it would also lose the magic on television.

Nope. I could see the stadiums getting much smaller (or on the other hand, much bigger). But without a significant attending audience, it wouldn't work nearly as well. It's an interesting question, as there are so many elements of "acting" to an athletic performance. So much of the "pressure" is provided by the fans in the stands. They are an essential ingredient. If you have ever divorced yourself at a game, and just looked at what was actually happening on the field, it's just a bunch of guys dressed up funny, bumping into each other. It's pretty ridiculous, and I have thought to myself "these guys are making millions of dollars?". The fans are projecting importance onto the events. They are actually meaningless with out the fans caring, and expressing it to the performers. ' I

I don't want him running very often, just the threat is enough. It's nice that he is way bigger than RG3. RG isn't gonna last long if he keeps playing the same style.

What? There is a big difference between "who do you expect to start" and "who do you want to start". I want Manuel, but I don't expect the Bills to start him

His father was fine. Bray actually was better off not getting drafted late, because he could have a some say in where he ended up playing. Now he is with a team that has a coach that is good at developing QB's, and a team that is searching for a good starter. If Bray has what it takes, he will be in a great spot.

PED's have come a long way.

I like that Manuel can use words like "vicariously" (and use it correctly, which also helps), and is well spoken. I have never heard an NFL player use that term. I know someone is gonna jump in with "doesn't mean nuthin', it's all about production", and "Fitz went to Harvard, BFD!", but his intelligence is a big positive. Not just for learning the playbook, but for relating to his teammates, and dealing with celebrity, and countless other challenges that could bring down a fool. Fitz never had the physical skills to match his intellect. Then there are the guys with "a million dollar arm, and a ten-cent brain". We shall see, but so far Manuel has really impressed me.

Ray Lewis was more of a "defender", LT was more an "attacker". Ray Lewis was "try to get past me", LT was "try to stop me". I never heard anyone say "Lawrence Taylor is overrated". I have heard (and thought myself) "Ray Lewis is a bit overrated".

Lawrence Taylor. Greatest player of my lifetime.

I love Talley too, but he is a bit overrated by Bills fans because they loved his attitude. Cornelius Bennett was better than Talley. Takeo Spikes was better too. Bryce Paup had a great season. I think it's between Bennett and Spikes.

I will say it again.....Steve Smith.

The problem I had with your post is "They didn't lose because they could not score. They lost because they couldn't stop anybody from scoring." Misleading at best. Kolb might suck, and the offense might not get better, but they definitely lost games because the offense was crap (of course the defense sucked too). All that window dressing for Fitz is just disingenuous. Go ahead and say the team still sucks, but don't try to paint Fitz as a good QB. Unforgivable.

Don't even bother listening to the pundits. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. they are entertainers. One aspect I am definitely certain of, and that is that most people on this board know more about the Bills than virtually every analyst. They aren't spending nearly the time that the hard core fans do, combing over this team.

Overthinking the hand size aspect. He isn't a QB, holding the ball up over his shoulders with one hand. He hasn't had any problems catching, or holding on to the ball. From SB Nation article.... "Goodwin has great hands too, and will rarely turn the ball over. His one fumble this season came against West Virginia, in October, when he was knocked unconscious by a Mountaineer. Goodwin’s great hands are combined with the fact that he rarely drops the ball. He excels in the open field and can make defenders miss rather easily. He doesn’t normally have to make defenders miss though, he usually blows right by them. Goodwin was considered one of the stars of the 2013 Senior Bowl, impressing scouts enough to mock him up one round. Speed isn’t everything (see Darius Heyward-Bey) but Goodwin’s athleticism is quite a spectacle." I see him more as Steve Smith, than Roscoe Parrish.

Ridiculous! But not worth arguing (again) Not turning the ball over at critical times, scoring when it matters, etc., are all important when measuring an offense. Last years offense.... FAIL!

Wow, people think they aren't gonna be better than last year? I think 8-8, but am hopeful for better than that. They won 6 games last season, with a defense that seemed like it had a guy in the penalty box all game. They won 6 games last year with a QB that could only work 15 yards past the line of scrimmage. They won 6 games last year with a team that was completely demoralized by week 5. They will at least match last season's record...

Gilmore showed promise, but "Gilmore Island"? That's a pretty big leap of faith. I think the need for Db's far outweighs guard or tight end, like not even close. A freakin' TE ain't gonna help this team anywhere near what an equal talent Db could.

I don't expect the play of the guards to be the biggest problem this season. I don't expect the play of the TE's to be the reason they don't move the ball. I think almost all the teams in the NFL have weaknesses like those 2 are for the Bills. If those are their biggest faults, they should blow out most teams. I think they will need big plays from defenders. Game changing plays, that can turn the momentum of games. On defense, the only guy that has shown that ability is Byrd. The way teams are scoring, and with the weighting of the rules towards the offense, turnovers are gold (remember the only string of wins the team put together was when they had that run of turnovers). A defense needs to stop the run, and force a team to make a mistake in the passing game to kill drives. I think the pass coverage (from DB's and LB's) is the weakest link. 3rd and long The offense just needs good Qb play, and it should take off, even with only adequate guards (I think Marrone knows what he has there, and a 4th round rookie probably wouldn't make any difference). I worry that Fred Jackson will hit the wall this year. Chandler will be fine. It's all about how fast Manuel can develop (and Kolb might even surprise us).