What a Tuel

If that is mccoy in decline I'll take it!

Can you link to that Whaley interview? I don't put it past them to let Searcy and Spiller go, but the way you react to things, I would rather listen myself. Saying we have 5-7 years before we need to worry about our cap situation is absurd. You always have to worry about your cap situation and plan ahead. That is the worst kind of planning to blow tons of money just because you have it. You need to get a return on your money. Maybe signing a less expensive but still impact DE means maybe we sign Revis, or McCourty. We don't know yet, because Free Agency hasn't started yet. Give Whaley a free pass? Why are you giving him a hard time? The Watkins trade? Really? He actually saw what he wanted and paid what he needed to get it. Isn't that exactly what you want him to do with Hughes? Because you know extra cap money couldn't be used in Free Agency to sign an impact Free Agent the same as a 1st round draft pick at 19 overall would? I would argue we might get more worth out of free agency this year with the extra cap money rather than the 19th pick. And then to cap it all off you are blaming Whaley for a pick he hasn't even made yet. Whaley has done a fine job so far, and maybe you disagree with the moves the team makes, that is fine, and it is your opinion but the way you throw it around as established fact and doom for all is a bit inflammatory. This is why people are telling you to relax.

Still have (Edit: also a veteran QB), Easley, Searcy (or another safety), Spiller (or another RB), a pro guard, and any splashes we want to make in Free Agency to go. Also Dareus, Gilmore and Glenn all come up next year don't they? I'm all for keeping Hughes, I never like to get rid of players without replacing them, but it has to be for a reasonable or even a premium price. We don't throw 13 million out just because we have it. Nevermind. I see what you are doing.

I'd like to get a long term contract signed for a reasonable price(I know, craziness). The reason our cap is low is because we don't have a franchise QB and because we have signed team friendly contracts. Let Whaley do his thing, he can still sign him, and free agency hasnt started yet. We may hit our cap, you don't know that.

tagging was 13.8 million someone said. I'm not sure I'd want them to if that's the case.

Now that he is the top guy available technically speaking, he is in a better situation and has more leverage. Not good for us.

But not good enough for the Bills. It's not even that we really need him. I mean we do need a third WR and/or a TE but it doesn't have to be him. It's just the people who think he sucks, and they don't want him on the team because we would somehow be worse with him that get to me.

Even if they got Mariota they wouldn't get rid of foles. They would want a backup.

We need a redzone target. Whether it be from a good TE, or a Mike Williams type player, or Stevie Johnson. We need to improve our red zone offense. If we pick up a solid big receiving TE that can start right away, then our need for Johnson decreases. I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.

Pull up a list of 1,000 yard WR's for 2014 and tell me you wouldn't want a single one of those on the Bills. 1,000 yard WR's aren't as common as you want to believe. No they didn't play him the second half of the year. That is different than not getting targets. The reasons why they didn't play him are debatable. Also it is good to note that he wasn't on the field every play in those games like Crabtree was. He matched Crabtree's stats and didn't play the same number of downs.

If he would have had the playing time? He was on par for a nearly 1,000 yard season this year. Crabtree - First 8 games 37 receptions 362 yards 3 tds Stevie Johnson - When he actually got playing time in the first 8 games 28 receptions 356 yards 3 tds Edit: I'll throw Anquan Boldin in too since he is technically their #1 WR Anquan Boldin 45 receptions 540 yds 2 tds

While I agree that Reed was way better than Stevie, I knew this was going to develop into that meaning Stevie Johnson wasn't good. He was good. He had 3 1,000 yard seasons with Fitzpatrick throwing to him. And while he didn't have to share his targets, he had no other receivers to take off the pressure either. Receivers just don't get yards by default because they are the only guy, they still have to play against defenses..

Our redzone offense was horrid. You are trying to tell me having Mike Williams or Stevie Johnson, would not have had an improvement? Also there were several games that were close. Texans, Chiefs, Dolphins (probably our worst offensive showing), Raiders. 3 out of those 4 were decided by less than a touchdown. A red zone target would have made a difference.

Absolutely. If we had Stevie or Williams playing last year we would have made the playoffs. A few of those games would have teetered our way.

I have watched him occasionally the last couple years, but not much before the Bears. I form my opinion on 12 different seasons, and 7 different teams in which he wasn't considered good enough to start and often got replaced or chosen over. To me that outweighs one good season with the Bears. Especially since they didn't even see the value in how well he did for them that year, and didn't feel the need to re-sign him the next

Haha. I can't find it but there is an article out there detailing what he has done to the Browns so far, and I don't want him near this team. I didn't before, but after reading it, it eliminated any doubt that maybe he can turn it around.

Agreed. At least change the title to " EJ Manuel might be cut" or something. Likely feels as if it is a foregone conclusion. Copy and paste the IMO into word or even the shout box. It is an i

Yeah I am not sure how they got there either. If this were the case the Patriots were looking for anyone, other than Tom Brady when they were looking at QB's in last years draft and drafted Garoppolo in the 2nd round. Or the Giants with Nassib. Or the Steelers with Jones. Or the Broncos with Osweiler. Or the Redskins with Cousins (right after they gave away their future) Good teams draft QBs all the time.

Browns fans wanted Manuel if he was really cut. http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32141

Sure, but he made this prediction after everyone knew the Bills were meeting with McCown. I believe he did the same after the Bills were meeting with Rex Ryan (at that point everyone assumed it was just out of respect). Unless I am wrong and he told everyone before that initial meeting. I'll maybe start believing if I hear the Bills are in contract talks with Locker. Maybe.

3 year deal.... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000474978/article/josh-mccown-cleveland-browns-reach-3year-deal I guess that's why. The dollar amount matters too, but I sure as heck bet we didn't offer him 3 years lol.

How can he be wrong? I mean unless the Front Office comes out and says "that wasn't the plan", he can never be wrong. It will always be "well the plan just went off track, but they were trying!"

EJ regressed in the 4 games he played in 2014. There is no explanation for that. He showed he can play much better than that his rookie season. That isn't saying his rookie season was spectacular, but I believe other factors played a role, and that those 4 games (a very small sample size) weren't showing his abilities. I mean our running game did go from 2nd to 25th from 2013 to 2014. The whole offense regressed. The reasons why are debatable but I don't think EJ is the reason.

I think excited is the wrong term. "Better than EJ" I think is the common attitude which is of course absurd.

I believe that he is saying that this is the bills plan and not that it is predicting the future. It means things can go wrong like not picking up locker because someone offered more money or whatever, but it also makes it very hard for Leroi to be wrong or proven right unless someone from the bills org confirms or denies which will likely never happen.