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I see you conveniently attribute the first 3 tannehill wins to keeping him in but the 4 straight losses afterwards certainly wouldn't have been tolerated with manuel. Kind of like how 2 straight losses got manuel benched after 2 straight wins. passer rating tannehill game 1 82 2 107 3 94 4 57 5 86 6 71 7 60 passer rating manuel 1 91 2 98 3 85 4 59 Manuel did not have the same opportunity to grow as tannehill.

Do a comparison of their first year stats. They were about the same if you extrapolate a 16 game season for manual, with tannehills td/int rate significantly worse. If you don't extrapolate they are at least comparable. was manuel given the same opportunity as tannehill? Absolutely not. Neither would have tannehill I know, I know....the eye test

Oh I definitely agree, other religions are largely peaceful these days. Christians get bashed regularly, and they just deal with it. One only has to post a picture of the prophet mohammad to see how much of a "minority" of the islamic faith would turn to extremism. What should have happened with the Charlie Hebdo comics, (and maybe it has, but I didn't see it.), Newspapers and media all over the world should have covered the comic strip, published the one that stirred up the extremism, AND published the one after the attack and put them on the front page of newspapers, tv, across the world. Send a message that we will not be intimidated into sacrificing our rights. I know it's easy to sit here behind my computer screen and ask the media to do this, but all the same their reaction was just gutless. If you think the above "would just stir up unnecessary trouble" then we know what boat you are in. Not aimed at you FireChan, but wanted to get that out....somewhere. Edit: Instead we get this kind of crap: What about their disrespect for our core values? Like you know, free speech, and.....life?

Was just going to post the same thing. I did a double take.

Regardless of whether the Crusades were defensive or not, they were predated by another religious war, and another before that etc etc Is that the stance we are taking in these modern days? Continue the trend of religious violence? Or are we going to evolve at some point? I know, I know, it's improbable. I would have accepted this argument. Instead he tried to justify atrocities by saying "It's just how the world turns guys, it just happens, even by us"

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-people-committed-terrible-deeds-in-the-name-of-christ-2015-2 Don't worry guys, the Christians did mean stuff too. We are one and the same. "This is not unique to one group or one religion," Obama cautioned. "There is a tendency in us, a sinful tendency, that can pervert and distort our faith. And in today's world when hate groups have their own Twitter accounts and bigotry can fester in hidden places in cyberspace, it can be even harder to combat such intolerance. But God compels us to try." It may not be unique to one group or religion but when you have to go back hundreds of years to find an event that even compares, then it may be time to admit that a particular religion has a problem and we won't stand for it.

I'd like to know who we expect to draft at 19 this year. Good or bad it should be on the table so when the next jj watt or whoever becomes evident based on their rookie season we don't have 1000 threads saying "we could have had odell beckham and x player" I think that is the 20/20 hindsight people hate. Obviously it's a little early but yeah that would be nice to know before the end of the 2015 season.

I know this thing has been talked to death but geez people are still arguing about it. Scenario 1 Bills draft Beckham - costs one 1st round pick Scenario 2 Bills trade up and draft Watkins - costs two 1st round picks and a 4th. The difference is 1 first round pick and one 4th round pick.

If only it were that easy. Someone would have to have a good reason to give up another first rounder to move up in this draft.....and they would only move up to 19

True but I've seen injuries just by people falling on legs for example. I guess it's the off season so he could heal but man this is risky in my opinion. Glad to see it though!

Isn't Murray taking a huge risk going out there?

If the Patriots didn't have a history of skirting the rules, or blatently ignoring them then I would be all for "just letting it go". However they skirted the rules and did something questionable just the week before this game too. Their leeway or good will has been spent, and it is about time people start questioning their tactics.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24989032/bill-belichick-uses-science-my-cousin-vinny-to-explain-deflategate CBS Sports seems to believe him.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/aikman-on-deflategate-i-can-t-imagine-brady-wouldn-t-have-known-012115 I posted this already, but this thread is moving fast. Aikman says he can't imagine Brady wouldn't have known, and that when he played no one would mess with the game balls without checking with the QB. On another note, and I am not defending them, but is there a chance Brady went through "his process" and picked out underinflated balls, and then they went for inspection and were inflated to the appropriate level? And then someone let the air out of them after without Brady knowning? Then he would at least be telling the truth that he didn't notice the difference. That sounds plausible, but then again I watched the conference and he is clearly lying through his teeth.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/aikman-on-deflategate-i-can-t-imagine-brady-wouldn-t-have-known-012115 Listen to the end. Troy Aikman "No one would have ever done anything with the game balls without checking with me first"

You mean when they lost 3 in a row pretty much losing a guaranteed playoff spot? 96 yds 2 tds 1 int against Seattle 252 yds 0 tds 2 ints against Dallas 374 yds 2 tds 1 int 1 fum against Washington 292 yds 2 tds 1 int against NYG

What did Schwartz do as a head coach that was so much better than Rex Ryan? Edited to make it easier to see Schwartz 2-14 6-10 10-6 lost WC 4-12 7-9 Rex 4-12 8-8 6-10 8-8 11-5 lost conf 9-7 lost conf Total 29-51 Schwartz 46-50 Rex This isn't to bash Schwartz, I actually like him, but people act like he was a more premier head coach or something. Maybe its because we in Buffalo like Detroit a hell of a lot better then the Jets or something. Ryan was a division rival and all... Also most people agree that defenses are a hybrid these days and the 4-3, 3-4 nonsense isn't a huge deal and we have the talent which is really what matters. We are not "blowing up the defense again"

Exactly. Shanahan - Retread that ruined RG3 Little Shanahan - Just following his father's footsteps Reich - too inexperienced Gase - only good because of Manning There would have been an excuse for people to complain about no matter who we picked. I hated the Ryan pick at first, but I am coming around and realizing that the only reason I hated him so much was because 1. he is a goofball, and 2. he was a divisional rival on a classless jets team. Neither of those will affect his coaching abilities, and his defenses are always good. It's not a "bad" hire, just a "not what I was expecting" hire.

The Bills had 414 rushing attempts against them. The Jets had 396 rushing attempts against them. I feel as though our run defense has room to improve even though it was decent. The stats may not back it up, but sometimes during those games, it felt like 3rd string running backs were getting chunk yardage that were keeping teams alive in some games. Please name one solid offensive draft pick the jets have made in the last 5 years. The Jets suffered from a poor GM more than anything.

Bryce would have to do more with the carries he's got first. Fred - 3.7 yds/carry Bryce - 3.5 yds/carry

Thats a great video! Too bad that horse got in the way.

Actually people are. We have a verrrrrrrry good WR and people still find a way to complain about it. I believe I have seen quite a few topics about trading Sammy as well. JTSP even speculated we could barely get a 2nd rounder for him, maybe even just a 3rd. Just watching Sammy play, he had to stop in his tracks and come back for the ball consistently, make a circus catch or play defense on the ball just to stop it from being intercepted. While Beckham made some crazy circus catches of his own, I didn't see his abilities visibly compromised by Eli Mannings poor accuracy Givens: 1. You don't know what you are talking about. Debatable: 1. Watkins vs Beckham's abilities.

That line of thinking is the wrong way to go about it in my opinion. It is all about what the owner intended for the wall to be. Which is clearly stated "honors former players, administrators and coaches who have played significant roles in the teams history." They are not honoring what he did off the field. Plain and simple. So if he was part of 9/11, sure he would be taken down pretty quickly. There will always be degrees of situations in which someone (the owner) will throw everything out of the window to save some face. But again it is really up to the owner whether or not they intend for the wall to be honoring on the field performance or an all encompassing honor of ones life. My guess is the Bills mean the former since they kept him up there. Unless you feel Ralph Wilson and the Bills organization was somehow honoring OJ's actions in the 90's way back in the 80's. They likely had this conversation and came to the same determination after the murder situation. They obviously felt that putting OJ on the wall was for his on the field performance, not for his actions afterwards. What is wrong with that? Why is that a bad thing? I just don't understand how you can't separate the fact that the Bills organization obviously does not condone murder, but they do condone his on the field contributions. Those don't just go away.

A big part of it is that his name went up before he did what he did. Would his name have went up after? Probably not. I am just not a fan of altering history because it would make people feel more comfortable. The facts are that he was an outstanding football player who deserved to be on that wall, and was put on it long before the white bronco. Why should a future event change an honor that predates it? Honestly though I think it is up to the owners. But I won't give them crap whatever they decide. If anything, I think the wall loses a bit of it's integrity if it takes him off, but really it is up to the owners of the organization or better yet, the same panel that put him up there if possible. I don't think people should be putting pressure on them to take it down because they can't separate his actions from his playing time. That is up to the organization. If Mr. Pegula can't separate OJ's actions from his play on the field, and he would feel more comfortable taking it down then fine. I also don't think we should all be offended or look at it as a black eye on the organization if he leaves it up. Either way it is a way for the Bills Organization to "honor former players, administrators and coaches who have played significant roles in the teams history." Fans get heckled by other Bills fans for wearing OJ Jerseys. Do you think people should be ashamed to wear those jerseys?