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Getting rid of the turf fields would help too.

I agree I have been posting on yahoo that the pats will be a .500 team bc their cheating is finally done and over. Other teams will be on their toes and aware. They will have contingencicy plans for playing the cheats. I think this will hurt them. The pats always start slow and finish strong bc it takes them a while to build up their cheating database of info on teams. Their amazing halftime adjustments are from illegal spying on other teams communications and locker rooms. Without flat footballs they will turn it over more. Without a coach in his head I will be impossible for Brady to ALWayS find the open guy in the flat. Without these benefits the pats are screwed.

Against Carolina he was 0/3 on fade routes that likely would have been TDs. 2/3 of those would have been caught by Sammy or Woods and maybe even 3/3. Plus wasn't there another drop in the end zone v the browns?

One completion on flat pass wound have been swatted or pick 6 with better coverage, ball was thrown behind the WR instead of outside and away. (near side of the TV sceen) On a good scramble/pocket awareness play he throws it into the dirt in front of the FB or TE in the flat (near side of the TV sceen) On another play with good movement in the pocket, he totally whiffed on a WR running over the middle ~15 yards down field. Those 3 come to mind from the Browns game

Again, so what? Tebow has size and arm strength and was a 1st round pick. Gronk has size and I bet his arm is strong too. It doesn't make them a good quarterback. If the Bills drafted EJ in the 6th round, would you still want him to start? I dont see why him being a 1st rounder matters at all. The Dougs got into a shouting match in TC last year because Marrone thought EJ stunk and we brought in Orton. We get a new staff with proven Offensive minds and EJ goes straight to 3rd string behind a journeyman and a guy with 0 starts. The leaked pictures of the Dallas draft board from that draft year show Dallas had EJ as a 4th round prospect. His accuracy is still poor and I think its time the posters on this board accept that EJ just doesnt have it.

Im with Tyrod by a long shot. Lots of people are saying EJ can make all the throws and has the best arm etc. I just dont see it. He looked great in the pocket last night but his accuracy is still terrible.

I have suggested that the Bills huddle at mid field during halftime, Home or away, when playing the pats. They cheat. Its obvious. Stay out on the field and dont even go into the locker room. When the press asked you why you did it, say "we dont trust the Pats*** and think they may have bugged out locker room" And those miraculous 2nd half comebacks the Pats are famous for?? Yea, I Guarantee those wont be !@#$ing happening anymore

I do worry that if Rex wants to play his man all over the field and blitz - it will hurt our D. We can get pressure with 4 or 5 and our DBs will need the help - not our DL.

And just how they did with R. Wilson in Seattle *Unless you actually watched the game last night, and know that Tyrod was the only one out there making plays. This isn't baseball, those kind of stats don't matter. Even on EJs touchdown throw, he is probably getting reamed about his terrible footwork on that throw and how he is super lucky it was still on target. Tyrod's 3 incomplete passes were on fades. Two if not all three would have been easy catches if they were being thrown to Sammy and not camp-fodder #80 - My point is Tyrod's 3 incomplete passes were much more impressive and telling than EJs lucky TD pass.

I'm in Rochester Thanks

Is this game going to be on tv?

I was at camp today at it was obvious that Cassell was the #1. He took 95% of the first team reps. Manual was working with the 2s almost exclusively.

I was at TC today and even having this thread is over-blowing the incident. The two were locked up blocking and woods helmet came off and he swung a little bit. 5 seconds later it was like nothing happened. And thanks for the links Dallas

Until right now I had totally forgotten he was even on that cheating team.

does anyone think this will hurt Brady with the HOF? I would love for him to not be a first ballot guy or better yet, never get in like Pete Rose. If I was a voter I would never vote for him, but thats me.

Then why aren't the Bills doing that either?

I'm not trying to be condescending, but do you understand how radio transmission works? Even if the headset (receiver) is working properly, that doesn't mean the transmitter hasn't been affected and/or tampered with. Like your cell phone, just because you dont have service, doesn't mean your phone is broken. Maybe someone 'pulled the plug' at the cell tower. Also, from ALL accounts of the half-dozen teams who have ALL claimed the same thing at Foxboro, the problem is never permanent. It happens at key moments, third down, in other teams territory, etc. The Refs don't take the other teams gear away because 'magically' the gear starts working again after teh Pats have gotten what they want.

no mention of 7/11

I will love it if/when Brady has a career-high in fumbles this season.

Is anyone really obtuse enough to believe that the patriots cheated twice and were caught both times? Get real!! They have been cheating, every game, every year, since Belicheat took the helm. 2006 teams are allowed to police their own footballs - 2006 is magically when the Patriots stop fumbling at un-imaginable rates. And Brady is not just part of it, Brady IS it. He is the centerpiece. If he wasn't a get-along go-along type of guy this schit couldn't fly. They are STILL stealing signals from other teams. How in the world would they have KNOWN BY THE FORMATION that the Seahawks were going to apss in the Superbowl???? Belicheat and their players admitted that they knew it was coming. This raises no red flags to anyone but me???? The things the Pts*** do on offense are impossible. No other team does such simple high school level things so easily in such an advanced league. It is simple NOT. POSSIBLE. without cheating. PERIOD. Brady and Belicheat are frauds. They should be shunned and banned. Pete Rose bet on some games, these two losers are 1000x worse. It will be a disgrace if either of them ever make the HOF.

Because those stats dont even begin to tell the whole picture.

They were fined 500k and a 1st round pick after Spygate. Why is anyone surprised they cheated again ???(or never stopped for that matter.) With a [lack of] punishment like every team should be cheating their way to the Superbowl. A punishment that would actually deter cheating would be more like Brady suspended for the year, The Pats** fined whatever their profit was from the entire 2014 season (so like $50 million or something) and taking away the title. (I could see why the league would never want to take away a title though) And I do not believe one bit the Pats**** Ever stopped cheating. They are still filming practices and games. Its obvious if you watch their games and other teams games. EVIDENCE?!?! - In regard to the Seahawks final play in the Superbowl (the play where no one ever would have thought they would pass) HELLLLOOOOOO THEY ARE STILL CHEATING!!!!! “Bill told me they were going to run it (in the game),” Butler said. “He got into me real good.” Belichick knew the play would come. But likely he didn’t anticipate it in a goal-line situation where the defense has some advantage in tight quarters with the game on the line...... But no one can say now that the Pats didn’t know it was coming. That was the decisive element in the play call. http://sportspressnw.com/2197817/2015/thiel-pats-knew-seahawks-pass-was-coming

Now they need to take away the SB title too.

The NCAA takes title away, even when they shouldn't IMO. But yes, there is never any consequence to cheating in the NfL. The Spygate scandal is proof enough. They literally stole 3 SB titles and were fined 500k, but winning those games made them way way more than that.

Well, they are flawed and we all know it. Some of us, rightfully so, are skeptical that this has been going on for nearly a decade.