Dan Gross

By ole Whitey I take it you mean Ralph, right?

...and last I checked he wasn't available. Even if he was, he'd probably ask for too much money...

Well, last year, with Winborn in the lineup, the Niners allowed about 125 yds/game rushing. That's 50 yards/game better than the Bills this year, so he must be an improvement....right?

..and that's not just for players, it goes for the entire staff. Any coincidence that the last two Bills coaches have been two of the lowest paid coaches in the NFL? Heck, our last head coach got a raise with his demotion to defensive coordinator!

And who is ultimately behind the Bills' policy of not allowing noise-makers (like cowbells) into the stadium....?

Don't waste my time with trivialities...what other owners out there who have owned their respective team for 40+ years have done worse?

You know, you make a good point there. The NFL has been really keen on the larger markets, and how many good players have avoided coming to Buffalo because it's "Blizzard City" with nothing good going on?

Not if you get someone like a Golisano to buy. Did you know that, under Golisano, Paychex had a dress code?! White collar employees actually had to wear ties (and I think even suits) to work every day! Now that's discipline, and that's what this team needs!

He didn't stop them, did he?! He's the boss, union or not he needs to get the players to respect that! A good owner would have hired security to ensure players met (and kept) their curfews!

...I'll give you a hint: he sits in the owner's box. Yes, I'm saying it, Ralph must go! I mean come on, let's look at the facts: --The team, under his watch, has a lifetime record of 322-346-8! --Outside of the playoff runs in the '60's and late '80's/early '90's (the "Kelly Era"), the team has only made the playoffs 5 times over the last 45 years! --The only Championships the guy has won were in an 8 team league! --Has a losing lifetime record against every other team in the AFC East except the Jets! --Has a losing lifetime playoff record! --The GM's may be the ones making bad choices about draft picks/acquisitions/coaching staff, but it is Ralph who selects those GM's! --He thought highly enough about Donahoe to give him a contract extension in the off-season! I mean, come on, the man is 27-40, and his choices for coaches are two of the sorriest rookie coaches in NFL history! --He has yet to have a GM that has been able to both manage the salary cap and win games! Come on, if Donahoe were to leave, what faith do you have that Ralph (the losingest owner in Bills history!) would replace him with a strong candidate, considering his track record of selecting GM's?! It's clear that we need to clean house, and it starts at the top! We need an owner with a "playoffs or bust" mentality, one that makes it clear that he is willing to replace coaches and GM's every year until we make the playoffs! We need to find such a potential owner and get a petition going to insist he make a hostile overthrow bid for the Bills. It's the only way, unless you all are happy with losing!

Problem is the rodeo hadn't heard of him before the trade rumors started... Maybe a straight up player trade for Losman? San Fran could probably use a #3 QB...

Actually, for once VABills is right. You can only go on PUP if the injury happened before camp started.

Not only did you spell the name wrong you gave him the wrong title. He's not GM, he's VP of Player Personnel, effectively the same role as John Guy on the Bills... Anyway, let me answer on behalf of everyone else here: 27-40 longest playoff drought in almost 20 years.

We were just talking about this kid last week because an official wouldn't let him play due to logistical reasons....even though he had already played in three games this season... Besides, why would SI do a Photoshop job like that???

You are right in that there is no comparison here. Carson Palmer is Carson Palmer. JP Losman is JP Losman. Two different people. Two different situations. Because JP's numbers do not match Carson's in the first 3 games of their careers doesn't automatically label JP a bust. It's 3 fuggin' games...get a grip folks.

It's funny. I just started going back to the archives to see what folks were saying about Losman then versus now, and you just happened to be the first I've been able to bust...so far.... I haven't delved back into the during the season stuff, just the post-Bledsoe-dump era stuff.

Which one?

Gee, his name pops up in every other thread...why hasn't anyone mentioned Kelly Holcomb here?

Hey, I just dropped Moulds from my squad in a "reverse mojo" move. I might have been holding him back. Also in a pick 'em that has "lowest scoring team" as one tie-breaker. Based on my predictions this year and their outcome, I picked the Bills to be lowest scoring this week...this should guarantee 30+ points from the team.

Does 'maybe. why not.' count?

He'd pick up where he left off last year....just look at what he's doing in Dallas... A quote from someone's sig at BB.com: He fails to mention two parts of maintaining a 4th quarter lead are: --Keeping the opposing offense off the field --Extending the lead.

Yeah, and I was referring to this quote: when saying: "the coaches told him to clean his locker and that a trade was a possibility, but that he was done for the team. Basically figured he was better than a second-stringer and didn't want him hurting himself (and thus his trade value)." Article says he's undisciplined and injury-prone...would we want him? Never heard of him before this trade rumor, so I'm just askin'....

From reading some past editorials from him it's clear that he felt the Bills made a huge mistake in releasing Bledsoe. Just to provide some perspective...

All I was able to find ( links are always handy ) was that the coaches told him to clean his locker and that a trade was a possibility, but that he was done for the team. Basically figured he was better than a second-stringer and didn't want him hurting himself (and thus his trade value). haven't read anything conclusive abotu a destination.

His last date had more hair...