Dan Gross

Such a shame. What about T-Bone? He was the world's biggest Bills fan and his enthusiasm about the team was unmatched.

ICE always provided cogent, articulate and even-tempered dialogue. Does he still post here?

Finally. Only a month later. See ya.

Some advice that many here should take, and I will be the first to do so: "Better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

...and Holcombs Arm... ...and Ray Finkle.... ...and Scott Law... ...and Jay From DC... ...and Morris Titanic... ...and newly inducted member into the "JP Sucks Crusaders" tron35 It's their board now. We are here only for their amusement...

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Yes, 21/34 for 207 yds 2 TDS/1 int and a fumble is the performance of a complete and total bust that has us longing for the Gary Marangi era, but 24/42 for 232 2 TD/0 int and a fumble returned for a TD is future first-ballot HOF brilliance. It's a fine line...

Don't give the number of starts excuse. If it doesn't work for Losman, it doesn't for Leinart. What I saw last night is a performance that was not arguably any better than Losman's on Sunday, with the same net result. The difference is that he has Boldin and Fitzgerald to leap up and grab those high throws...or are you claiming that Evans and Price are just as good? That is, he has them until they get killed catching said passes... Sorry, bluv, you're going to get it anyway...in fact it likely won't end this week...

You have to cook them for like an hour, then you put pickle juice on them...

yup.

Un. Fuggin. Believable.

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Yeah, the pre-expansion span, when all but 2 teams made the playoffs...

4 knocked down passes...guess he's too short to play in the NFL...

Not talking 'bout you, but the usual anti-JP Crusade suspects...

That was JP's fault, not Leinart's. Funny how the talking heads say it wasn't Leinart's fault... shouldn't the QB be protecting the ball at all times?

Nope, Arizona's worse than Detriot, so that means, if the game stands, that the Bears will be worse than the Bills if they lose to Arizona. After all, only really bad teams lose to really bad teams...

No room for rationale. JP has single-handedly lost two games in a row for the Bills. This board belongs to the anti-JP Crusaders, and probably will until he has 12 500 yard, 6 TD, 0 INT, 0 sack games in a row. Don't even bother trying...I know I give up.

Yawn...I mean consistently. The Cards have had 4 drives start in Chicago territory. From that they got 1 TD, 2 FG ("drives" of 10 and 22 yards), 1 missed FG (drive of -5 yards). The killer Arizona offense with the red hot QB has yet to total the yardage of their first drive...

Losman doesn't look so bad when given the short field either. The Cards have had 1 drive of greater than 25 yards.

Not too late to trade for him.

And he should have had at least 2 more so far tonight.

I love those folks who feel the current Bills are spitting upon the "tradition of excellence" of this organization. We're not the Cowboys, going to the playoffs just about every year under Landry. We're the Bills. Don't give me the "longest playoff drought in history" BS. If you want to carry the metaphor, a single 1-and-done in the middle of 14 years of futility is like a sprinkle in the middle of a drought: yeah, it rained, but they won't be lifting water rationing any time soon. This team is a mediocre team that had two great playoff runs over the course of 45 years. Hardly a tradition of excellence.

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Actually, I think he'd want Flowers... There's a line between "man, we sucked yesterday, that stinks" and "OMG WTF WE LOST TO THE LIONS CUT THE WHOLE TEAM FIRE ALL THE COACHES AND FRONT OFFICE WE ARE THE WORST TEAM IN NFL HISTORY!!!!1!11"