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funny how this story is growing legs of it's own huh??? It took way too long, but folks, to some of us anyway, there's no surprise in PBOs incompetence. What's telling however, is the continued "leaks" we get... Moral of the story??? Never, ever, throw your intelligence community under the bus. Obama supporters had actually better hope he wins re-election because then, he can only face impeachment over this. If he's out of office however, he better stay on Romney's good side and ask for a pardon because the charges could be much much worse....

Pols can be skewed, but even more fun, are approve/disprove polls.. And right now, PBO is failing terribly on both the economy and Lybia.... I think this is a forgotten part of the polling crap we read. Read the other data folks.... While it's certainly possible, I doubt many people are voting PBO that disagree on his handling of the economy, and/or foreign affairs... Dewey/Truman is a ridiculous analogy. based on the speed of news media today, and blogs where people can get alternative views...

Backwards.... He put politics ahead of American lives....

wow... you still won't let go of that will you??? I asked you once before, what news orgs you read on a daily basis, but got nuttin..... I told you that most conservatives KNEW what you would post before you did BECAUSE they read opposing views... but got nuttin... And your still, spouting the same crap, and I know, I'll get nuttin....

Where does it say that?

I saw that.... and he was obviously referring to Obama as a coward... Sadly, I can't disagree....

Funny you mention the Carter/Reagan election... You see, the Jimmy fiasco of the Iranian hostages are one of the reasons we have problems today in the Mid East. And like Carter, Obama just self destructed on foreign policy. PBOs biggest problem in comparison however is, at least the hostages in Iran came home, alive, after 444 days. Remember... Obama is the incumbent that has humiliated himself, our military, and our country... Not the come from behind kid you hope for...

This is getting interesting. I was one a while ago that posted I wanted Romney to win, but expected PBO to... Historically, in the tied and real close races, the small percentage of undecided going into election day, break for the challenger. I'm still not going to bet on the RR rodeo, but things look a lot closer than I expected...

And your comparing an act of survival by a small group of people, the ancient Hebrews, to the acts of a 1.5 billion strong religion??? Justifying genocide of ALL non Muslims, based of the survival in history of a small band is simply ridiculous... Let me try to make up a quote by you, and you can claim I'm wrong.... "Islam is a religion of peace, and even if they aren't, and want to kill or enslave 4.5 billion people, it's ok, because Jews killed Jericho and women naturally abort"... , Did I get that right??? A55holes do vex me... must be close to Holloween... wow... you ARE ignorant... nevermind...

Can't believe I'm responding, but idiocy needs to be taught... From your link.... Not to mention the "estimated" part...

I would like to see a link to back up that claim....

Don't go there B, your better than the trolls on this board.... Yes, spending has to be gotten under control, and conservatives HOPE that Romney/Ryan gets that ball rolling... But there's a lot more than that, like PBOCare, and Ben Grahzi...

I know, it's funny isn't it... I live in MD, a heavy Dem state, and you have to show photo ID with your registration card...

and i would warn, "Don't underestimate the intelligence of women".... This ad is demeaning, and totally suggests PBO cares more about the lower body parts of a woman, than the woman herself and will lose a lot of votes... Yes, these are issues dear to many of them, but the future of their children will always come first and foremost in anything they do.. can open, worms all over the floor...

I love how PBO is casting a vote in Illinois... Hasn't he lived in DC for a few years now???

And your thoughts are totally ignorant.... Federal government spending now, is about 26% of GDP. Historically, our economy does best, if the gov is reigned in to less than 20% of GDP. This is compounded even worse when states and locals are raising spending as well, stealing even more from your pocketbook... Do we need a total list of taxes and fees to help you understand??? If so, google is your friend....

Wow... I'm compressed... you win first idiot award for comparing Bush 9/11 to PBO 9/11... Really thought it would be a self described lib to pull that, not someone who tries to ride the fence, falling to the left an awful lot.. And your world view on how this should have been handled is exactly what oh wise @$$ (one)???

And he's right... Protocol in a situation like this, is for all American "assets". military, and covert, to assume forward staging points, and await orders. These operations, subject only to the jurisdiction of the POTUS himself, are the best of the best.... Unfortunately in this case, REQUESTS for orders, were denied. I know the excuse... PBO didn't know.... Then who the ^%&$ told our rescue forces to stand down? Who impersonated, or spoke for the President?? In fact, all this is coming to light because 2 operatives, actually DISOBEYED orders to stand down!!! Flashback.... I was one of those forward staged personnel when the Iran Embassy was over run many moons ago so have a really, really good idea what those men and women must feel right now. We sat, on the tarmac, for a day and a half KNOWING we were going in to rescue Americans held hostage, hoping they were still alive when we got there, wondering what could be taking so long... Finally, after all the preparations, and all the planning, we were also, told to stand down, and in amazed disbelief, were told to simply go home ... At least after 444 days, those hostages still came home, but IMHO, it should have been more like an overnight stay for them... Ambassador Stevens and his team, are DEAD because we were told to stand down.... PBO has said he would seek justice against the murderers, but now you have to find them after letting them go you idiot!!! I don't know if Stevens and team would still be alive when our teams got there, but the people that did it certainly wouldn't be, and we wouldn't have to "seek justice"..

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!! Noting else I've read below, or above, couldn't be fixed with tort reform. Take the lawyers out of law writing... On the criminal side, we send non violent offenders to prison, even though a close study of the Constitution will tell you that a law written against an individual, that does not include harm to another, is UnConstituional... About 80% of our Nationally elected Pols are lawyers, and are also sworn to uphold and defend... Kick them out... Civil... Let's institute a loser pay system... File a lawsuit, and lose the case, you pay legal fees for the opposition... There are way too many frivolous lawsuits now and this would be a start to stopping them...

I should know this, but have to ask.... Is the "selection" by Congress, lame duck version, or the newly elected?

I doubt any of the above, since her law license is not active and hasn't been for a long time... But what the heck, PBOs and Michelle's are inactive too...

I'm not going to read all through this thread but have a comment or two to add... I was out of town for a few days.... Bayonets, obsolete??? Less of them needed??? Tell that to a Marine. Well known throughout the world for their rifle marksmanship, the bayonet, is the weapon of choice for close quarter combat... Ya see, yeah, I'm one of "those" and I loved my bayonet, because I could shove it up you a$$, and cut out your tongue... The ship/boat distinction was one we played on our fellow warriors, the squids... Call a surface vessel a "boat", and you knew a fun fight was going to ensue... Y'all are aware of the supposed "animosity" between sailors and Marines, but believe me, it was mere "brotherly love" IMO... But it was fun to call a ship a boat, and a boat (submarine or cutter) a ship, and play with each other for a while... :-) Ironically, I was last on a "boat", the USS Tarawa, in 1978 and the ship was full of dart boards, with Jimmy Carter's picture on them.. Would love to float with them one more time to see what's on those dart boards now.... The defense budget.... and.... crony capitalism..... Had to put that in there... Folks, remember those 700 dollar hammers?? It still happens!! We pass a military budget, full of ifs/ands/buts, that require the defense dept spend the money as our congress critters want, too often, with strings to local districts, or a pet project that spends beyond what something normally costs. It happens throughout government... Space Shuttle??? Aren't all of us sad, but amazed that it is retired after so many years? Did you know, at least one part of each shuttle, was built in every single state? Required by law??? Is it any wonder why we just shot up a private rocket to the space station at a fraction of the cost? Google is your friend... Check out the "spare" engine budget for the F-22 Raptor... Why??? Crony capitalism... Can we cut the defense budget?? We need it to be stronger than it is. We need our hero's to be safe, well supplied for the mission, and taken care of if traumatized in the line of duty, but we don't need a pet project that requires we spend 700 dollars for a hammer... Yes, we "could" cut defense, but first, the cronyism needs to go..... Both parties are guilty of it, but PBOs comments about bayonets and horses, ships and boats, should be, and I expect are, offensive to anyone that has ever served.... Wondering aloud, if I can have one more "boat" ride on the Tarawa... Would love a dart tournament about now... Best picture target wins....

Yet you don't list your information sources for the record... Look, many left posters on here, get their information verbatim, from the DNC talking points, and I know that... But most conservatives on here, KNOW what your going to post in response even before you do!!!! Why do ya think??? Could it be that they do, actually read opposing views??? And since the video clip making fun of Mohamed supposedly caused such an uproar, I wonder how this movie will be received among the Muslim community?? Either this POTUS thinks we're really this stupid, or perhaps, maybe we really are???!!!??

I heard "surf's up" in Malibu... go away now....