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Lmao I never thought I see the day a Bills fan would say Fitz was good and better than a first round QB! Lol I want talk much about the others but last year the Pats had probably one of the worst (in talent) rosters in the NFL and were in cap hell. They still went 7-9 and have upgraded the front 7 and IF Gilmore stays still has a top end secondary. On O they upgraded the O line and more importantly got depth there, they also added the two best TE available in FA and drafted a top 5 QB. IMO Jones was the perfect fit outside of Lawrence for the Pats system and style of play. So while you may think he is mediocre, which he may, a lot of people also thought Allen was a bust in the making. Now you said our QB sucked but you needed a fumble by said QB to seal the win in Buffalo otherwise you lose. Point is Pats will be a lot better especially on D, and that the Bills aren’t world beaters yet..

I see Stidham being traded before the season starts… not for much maybe a 5th rounder. He has a strong arm but isn’t very accurate it seems, and let’s face it he has next to zero chance of winning the starting role from Jones or Newton. I am more concerned about Gilmore and if they resign him and have a good CB for 2 years the. Stuck with him for the rest when he declines. But if they trade him it tells me they are looking to next year and more young players to help. What do you think of Tua? I myself see good and bad last year.. doesn’t help that the Phins were willing trade the farm for Watson.. makes me think they aren’t sure about him.

They are deep in OL probably the deepest group on the team. I am HOPING by the end of the year I am either shocked at how well Newton has played, or am seeing positive movement from Jones.. I don’t expect to win the East this year it will still be the Bills division.. I am hoping they improve enough be #2 and maybe a wildcard team. Team still has holes on O, like they don’t have a true #1 receiver, and no real elite WR, I still think Jacoby Meyers is the best of the lot.

Correction— he is NOT wanting Jones to face Brady and have the kid hear the hype all week of “Brady v Jones” crap. You are right he built the D to lead the team and IF Jones wins the competition expect a playbook similar to 2001 Pats. Safe throws, lots of running.. just don’t make mistakes and let the D win games.. will it work? I think they win 10 to 11 games that way… I think the D be that good as long as the O doesn’t screw up

You can’t judge anyone off the first few practices. Cams arm is shot IMO, but Jones looked good most of camp and more importantly shows the fire as he got mad at himself when he screwed up, which all rookies do.. (screw up that is) I will hold judgement on Jones till at least next year… he has the smarts to play QB and well he will have one of the best O lines protecting him when he finally does start. They actually built this team to his strengths and not Cam’s. but weird you judge QBs based off of work done in shorts.. FYI Hoyer looked like a God in shorts when he first started.. Weird thing is ALL of the WR played with Jones and Tua have said Jones was better.. ive watched Jones videos now and he has good pocket presence, he makes quick reads, and always seems to make the right decision where to go with the ball.. now will it translate to the pros? No idea, but I like his chances better than say the Jets QB, heck I think he has a better chance than the Chicago rookie just because he is going to a coach that made bad QBs look good. (Jimmy G, etc)

You should feel that way! Bills are a damn good team! I think the fact the East is tough D wise is going make it harder for the Bills get Home field threw out the playoffs.

Oh he is a good coach! He just fairs poorly against other good to great coaches.. I swear he PEDs himself every time he faces BB lol… I think the AFC East is loaded with good to great coaches. I mean outside of the Jets HC the other 3 have shown they are damn good… East should be fun this year.

Steelers really need a young QB to take over for Big Ben, their D is scary good, I also think they are the best coached team in the North. So I see the Steelers winning the division again this year as their D wins them a lot of games and Tomlin will help them win 1 or 2 they shouldn’t.

I am not sold on Baker Mayfield at QB and think he keeps them from being a true contender. I feel the same way about the Ravens, except I feel Jackson is wildly overrated as a QB. They also have a good D but not scary at all on O with Jackson, teams have figured his style out.

IMO Ravens are way overrated. Browns are well the browns… So that leaves the Chiefs and Bills and the Chiefs are 1 and the Bills 2. The Dolphins COULD be 3 but I am not sold on Tua, Chargers should have a good O but not sold on their D, Raiders suck, Jets Suck.. Steelers have a damn good D, but a very shaky O. Bengals are a couple years at least away, Broncos are a mess. Titans and Colts could be 3 and 4 especially the Titans but their D still very shaky, Colts have to fix their QB. Jaguars in full rebuild And the Texans are a train wreck. finally my team, Patriots will have a top D, and a rebuilt O weapons but at best am unproven rookie QB or worse a broken down Cam Newton. so point is only Chiefs and Bills are true SB contenders in the AFC. The rest have obvious and possibly big flaws.

Till this year. He has a sick D and a decent run game and some decent WR

Lol I was just thinking a fair deal a 2nd and a WR who supposedly had a high upside and is cheap for them.

Brady still be #1 because he is the GOAT and well he stomped a mud hole in Rogers when they did play last year. Also don’t think THEY will have Allen in the top 10 I say he be something like 23 or 24. Why? Because they are like that.

Future first round draft pick? Does that mean like 2023 or 2024 and not next year? (Curious) I am hoping the Pats get him for a 2nd and we throw in Harry.

Wow that was long. Speaking as a Pats fan I expect Newton be the starter for the first 4 weeks and go probably 1-3. They then will go with Mac Jones and hopefully unleash a real passing offense. Mind you this all could change if they end up getting Julio Jones. Who could make the Pats a .500 Team in the first 4 games if not 3-1. (Yes I believe he is that special of a talent)

Lmao true!! I was thinking be a lot like the 2001 Pats O with Jones. I figured with Newton he get less since ALL Newton can do now is run. Lol

This year can be anyone. My bet be on Harris as the Pats it appears are going back to a run first O especially if Jones is the QB. He will have the better stats because he will have more opportunity than any other RB.

Hard to say, the Pats really ran the ball well as a team last year, but Lundy throw a completed pass for anything so I don’t think teams worried to much about it... Nee year this year and anyone can be the best this year, I will probably suffer three at least 7 or 8 games of Cam if not a hole season. 2 years with Cam will feel longer than 20 years with Brady did. Lol but seriously what happened last year means nothing a hole new year anyone can be the best RB this yr in the East.

I always figured Jones would be the Pats WB so I watched more film on him I figured the other 4 be drafted early. (I was shocked how far Fields fell)

Hey he is like 90 it was way past his bedtime man was exhausted. Lol

Definitely have the best QB without a doubt in the East I say top 5 in the NFL. After that in the East it can be any of the 3, I will say Newton starts the year for NE and Jones replaces him half way threw. I think Jones will be the clear 3nd by years end just based off of better coaching. (And Devante Smith considers him better than Tua lol) all and all it was the right pick at 15. Bust or boom it was correct.

I am not comparing him to the GOAT. No one is ever going to be Brady. He is definitely a huge step up from Newton. Fields - 3 games with less than 200 yards, and had his worse game in both championship games. Trey Lance - played inferior competition and numbers were good not great. Wilson - One good year and also not elite competition. Jones — had a stacked WR core a good O line. Broke records for completion percentage in NCAA History, had one of the best TD to INT ratio. Also made quick decisions and went three reads quickly. Also stepped up in the pocket and still delivered a clean ball when being hit. He put up better numbers than Burrows who’s entire O is also in the NFL now. outside of Lawrence, NONE of them are sure things but Jones is the best one to plug into the system the Pats like to run and they didn’t give up draft capitol to get him.

Dynamic? Ran a 4.58 40 yard dash but isn’t considered Mobil, broke records for accuracy but it’s all his surrounding cast. Meanwhile they say he is the first in and the last out for practice, his tapes show a QB with great pocket presence, and he throws it quickly and accurately. also IMO most QBs who are busy is because of the coaches who draft them sorta kinda stink!

When did he try to hurt a player? The man one of the smallest in the NFL, the one I know did a cheap shot was Gronk and I was actually hear and called him out for being an idiot? Oh someone who almost did come to Buffalo when he unretired I am sure you would have promptly booed him. Edelman was the annoying little pest that was mouthy but not a head hunter or anything like that. Cheater? Because he got popped ONCE for steroids after recouping for a full YEAR from injury and hadn’t played a down yet? I stand by what I said you cheer for him on your team and make bogus crap up to hate him when he isn’t. It’s ok we all do it.

Wasn’t worshiping him just stayed a fact he played all three phases in the NFL. Not a very common thing to see. If I was worshipping him I wouldn’t have said he isn’t a HOF player.