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Bradford would certainly have to compete for the starting job, it wouldnt be handed to him. Why are you so against Bradford coming in? Isnt it better to have multiple options at QB? Do you really feel that we are ok going into the season with just EJ as the guy with no backup plan in case he doesnt develop or actually regresses?

Thats what Im saying. I said it earlier when McCown was brought in. Having a vet like Josh means we can include EJ in trades. Send EJ and a later pick to St Louis. They get a new QB with some potential for WAY less money, we get a new guy we feel will help us more + McCown.

Yea thats true. I give people that handle too much credit often times.

If I remember correctly they dont just assign ratings based on the eye-ball test and how much they like a guy. I think they go through every play of every game and do a +/- of good plays and bad plays for the whole year. Then they run a statistical evaluation for each player and compare it to the average player. I think the z-score of the individual player's +/- comapred to league average is what assigns the elite, very good, good etc designation. They very well may think Mario is better than Kyle but thats just not what the numbers they have show. It may mean they need to tweak their evaluation but I dont see it as a "They love Kyle" But maybe Im thinking of something else.

Bad plays made by mediocre QBs changed everything? EJs pick six didng change much. EJ should have been pulled at half time of that game, the Watt pick was just a nail in the coffin as far as Im concerned. EJ was not progressing, he had a good game against Chicago when nobody had any tape on us and then regressed after that.

Gilmore now compared to Cromartie back then with Revis on the other side are comparable I would say. Much closer than youre indicating.

Yea Im obviously not sure either but I was just thinking. Just as an example, remember when we drafted EJ there were reports that Chip liked him. Perhaps we send some mid round picks and EJ to the Eagles for Foles. Having McCown allows them to make that deal comfortably. I havent really thought this trough completely but its an example.

Something I haven't seen mentioned is that this offers flexibility if we ever wanted to include EJ in some trades. If the front office really has grand plans, they may including bundling EJ with other pieces. In that case we will need someone on the roster as a backup. McCown could be that guy.

Yea I think Roman will set EJ up better than Marrone did but I mean specifically this type of offense showed in the article. They changed the offense from Alex Smith to Kaep. That said I still would rather have another QB, I just don't believe in EJ.

EJ is much much slower than Kaep. Two of the plays outlined there were dependent on Kaepernicks speed alone. EJ would have been tackled on both plays. HE is not nearly as elusive of a player. I think he will be mor eproductive in this offense than he has been with us but I dont think EJ is the best player to run this type of game. He can run when necessary but I havent seen any flash of elusiveness out of him in the open field.

Yea I miss Stevie. I thought he was a good player and would really contribute on this team. Id say hes as good as Woods in terms of production and we could use that right now. On top of that I loved his personality and his love for Buffalo. Didnt like the penalties but whatever. Never really cost us anything significant.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00.htm#241-252-sum:stats Look at his compiled stats for the first twelve games from last year. Then add that to the fact that he had his best statistical year ever the year prior. What seems more likely, that he went from an MVP caliber player for 28 games spanning two seasons to have old age catch up with him and ruin him for good over the last 4 weeks or that he had an injury to deal with for the last month of the season, impacting his performance.

He may be getting close to a wall but he also may have been injured. Two seasons ago he had his best year ever, a historic MVP season but floundered in the superbowl. This year he started out as hot as he was in the the previous regular season but struggled later for whatever reason, you say old age I say injury. I dont think the last couple games will be the norm for him next year though, dont expect 16 of those The guy can play still. Obliviously hes slowed down but Im hard pressed to believe that he went from the best 16 game stretch hes ever had followed by 8+ great performances this year only to fall completely apart beyond repair in a 5 month span. I would love Manning in Buffalo

I think they are almost all unlikely to become free but that shouldnt stop the discussion, crazier things have happened. I can at least convince myself that scenarios exist where these guys become available under some circumstances but theyre not plausible. Basically Bradford has not worked out for them and they owe him a lot. if they think they can get picks for him and move up in the draft it may be worth it. They were competitive without him (kinda) and I think its possible the organization and fan base has soured on him based on what they gave him financially and what theyve received in return. IF we make an offer they may consider it. Manning would be (a lot) tougher but hes in the last deal of his contract and then would require an extension. Prior to this year his numbers were trending down and the thought is that they might not want to extend him after this contract for big money which means he would become a FA. If they trade him this year, when they are likely not contending they can get something back for him instead of just letting him go to FA. If we make them a strong offer do they at leasst consider it because of this? Cutler has completely worn out his welcome in Chi and they owe him a ton. I think the new regime just cuts their losses and moves on. They are certainly not going to be competitive with him and not much will change without him. If they can find someone willing to take him off their hands why wouldnt they? RG3 the new coach, who is there next year, hates him and has publicly criticized him. While the Owner loves him, if trade offers come their way Jay might be able to convince them to let him go because I believe jay would certainly take picks over keeping him on his team. CK, no idea except with Harbaugh leaving and a non-productive year I thought there may be a chance they dont like him and want to start over. With them promoting from ithhin for HC I dont see this happening.

Inconsistent doesnt tell the story. In my opinion he was very consistent, consistently not good enough with flashes of being competent. If it were the other way around, mostly competent with some bad throws in there, Id be a lot more optimistic. EJ is not good enough to lead us into next year, plain and simple. We need someone better to be able to capitalize on this defense.

Thats true but theres the counter to that, if you have a great QB a day will come when you need your defense to win a game for you. I agree that there will be a need for our QB to win some games and he may not be able to deliver but lets hope those games dont come in the playoffs.

I see A LOT of 4 star recruits in each list so it seems like they have figured something out.

Just to add to this. The 2008 11 wins from Matt Cassell was skewed by the fact that we played the NFC West that year which was awful, the Dolphins won the division with 12 wins and the Jets had 9 wins. The records of the the NFC west were horrible so every got a bump in wins like that. With Brady they would have won 14 games most likely. would OP be taking jabs at the QB play if it was EJ instead of Brady? Doubt it. Tom had one bad throw all game but other than that he played almost perfect football. The Wagner int was more about Wagner than TB. Also take note of the quality of talent at the WR position on both teams in the SB. None are that special, all are expendable talent and we just traded two firsts for a WR. I love Sammy but it kind of shows we may have been misguided in using those resources on a WR when they are clearly not needed.

No

One thing to consider is that one great guy can make the others around him better. Meaning that while they say they we need 7 guys to become a superbowl contender, many of that is on the O-line where adding one better guy can elevate the others we already have higher. This doesnt mean we need to go out and find 7 new guys.

yes

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-beginners-guide-to-deflategate/

- Yea those fans are going nuts because they lost to them but the players on those teams are advocating for letting it go because they know it had no impact. - Its being reported because the media will beat any story to death but many reporters and knowledgeable people, including former players, are saying that it has little to no impact on the outcome of a game and it happens a lot across the league. So while it may be a story it is a non-issue, my bad for poor choice of words. - Spygate happened and that was cheating but this is many years later and is not something I would consider cheating. Just because they were "caught" here doesnt automatically make the two connected. If you commit tax fraud and then get a speeding ticket for 10 mph over the limit those two dont necessarily point to a pattern of criminality. One is something obviously malicious and the latter is something that almost everyone does. The two are not related.

Lets just all relax and realize that every NFL QB probably has the balls inflated to their liking before each and every game. This is not a story, dont complain to the NFL because 1. it makes us look petty, no other team is doing this. 2. Its a non-story and had no impact on the outcome of the game and 3. is not related to spygate at all, the Patriots are not cheaters. I guarantee Orton had the balls inflated or deflated before games this year.

I believe hes joking about the Ricky Williams trade.