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You know the numbers better than me because I haven't researched. However, 75% of 5th rounders making the 53 man roster seems real high. I'm not saying Solomon won't realize some true potential. I'm just thinking a vet like Toohill, that appears to have been blocked from playing time by some really good DE's in front of him, is going to have to beat out. I'm just not sure a 5th round pick is going to do that. I certainly wouldn't hate it, because if he's good enough to make the game day line up, I love it.

Toohill is making the team, IMO, with little issue. Smoot, if he returns to form will too. The 5th round rookie needs to beat them out or he's going to the PS, and I don't see him beating them out. To me Toohill seems like a McDermott type of player. High effort, non stop motor.

People aren't mentioning him but I think Toohill is going to play.

I think Toohill is really going to pleasantly surprise.

Both of my sons play baseball in the Charlotte NC area, one in college. We've had a lot of great memories and we're still adding some. I love watching them compete. In 2016 I bought NY Yankees tickets early in the season as we planned a trip from Charlotte. The team sucked and as our game approached, Cashman began trading any players you'd even be interested in watching. We couldn't believe that was the year we picked for a family trip. As it turns out a prospect named Aaron Judge was called up and played in our game. He hit his first home run as a Yankee and we were there.

There's nothing wrong with feeling good about Shakir. There's also reason to believe there's others on the roster who can and will ball out.

I really don't think we'd be laughing at the Pats if they signed someone like Claypool during the Brady years. We'd be saying, damn if Brady can make this dude stay straight, that's a lot of talent there.

If Claypool doesn't make the team, we're in bigger trouble than if Shakir isn't the "top WR". Believing if Shakir isn't the top dog, we're done for, is totally ridiculous. There's just too many possibilities for that to be true. You clearly know very very little about Samuel.

I completely disagree with you and 89. Shakir is a nice piece but there's other reasons to think we'll be productive if he doesn't produce. You're totally undervaluing Samuel, IMO. Claypool is the most physically talented WR on the roster. Keon has as legitimate shot at being productive. Shakir or we'll get no production, seems extremely dismissive of legit NFL talent on the roster and reasonable expectations for Keon.

Tyreek Hill called Claypool - "A Vending Machine"

Yeah it's time to really wonder if it's an indictment on Samuel who's entering his 8th year.

There's been a lot of good posts. Staying healthy is something that keeps ringing so true to me. We were really in a bad spot by the time the KC game came. I'm just not ready to say the D line concerns me yet. I think there's a lot to like. Bringing back Jones was important. I think Carter will contribute. We all really like Oliver. Epenesa was a smart return. I'm extremely intrigued by Toohill. There's also a real possibility Von plays good. Groot has to be motivated to show out. I'm excited to see what Solomon has. I believe there's a legit chance we can be good.

You're not an honest person.

This will not be a net positive. It never is and can't be.

I know we've disagreed and challenged each other. You're articulate and obviously spend a lot of time on developing your opinions. I disagree sometimes or even often. I just never pegged you as dishonest until now.

Wow, I can't even believe you're denying it. That's an even worse look. I'm not sure how to search for that but I'm not spending the time, just to show both of you what you said. I know you both remember.

C'mon Gunner. You were agreeing with Beck Water on it.

You were also the guy telling everyone last year, Josh Allen was heading towards Ryan Tannehill territory.

Um, he's 23, entering his 3rd year and had a serious foot injury. You've all but checked out on him? That's just ridiculous.

Lots of men experience this, it's called divorce court.

Paying players has always been around and happened. Now it's just public and there will be lawsuits over it, because it's a legal transaction now. The actual culprit and what will blow up college sports is the portal.

This young man needs help. I hope he finds the courage to seek it.

I would bet you we're better than 10-7.

He already was next level.

Completely disagree with the bolded. Allen was having a massive statistical year under Dorsey. It wasn't an accountability issue with Allen. Dorsey sucked. He didn't prepare good enough game plans and couldn't make enough in game adjustments. Josh is a total stud and also respectful. I can't stand it when fans act like he needs his hand held or has some kind of psychological issues. The team played better when Dorsey left because he was awful.