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The WR#2 Market (Spotrac Breakdown and Comparison)
Mango replied to WhitewalkerInPhilly's topic in The Stadium Wall
Productive and $30M cap hit productive are two very different things. -
The WR#2 Market (Spotrac Breakdown and Comparison)
Mango replied to WhitewalkerInPhilly's topic in The Stadium Wall
I agree that he won’t see the end of his contract. Everybody in the building knows it. But restructuring basically guarantees we get close.. Out of pocket so keeping this simple with pre-June cuts. 2024 is the only time cutting/trading Diggs hurt us currently. Restructuring ties the teams hands and kicks the can down the road. The current situation is below. I think (ouch) a restructure ties us together until 2026. 2024: -$3M net cap 2025: $5M 2026: $15M 2027: $18M -
Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
Mango replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think it is somewhere in the middle. Through and through I think Terry thinks of himself as a hockey guy. In his hear of hearts I think he wishes he was the Jerry Jones of the NHL. But he also hates his failings. So he pulled his investments, put his yes men in place to do it his way, and if the right sale becomes available he will bite. Ultimately I think Terry Pegula is the worst owner in NHL history and I have zero faith in him to do right by a pro franchise ever. As @Low Positive said, there isn't any magic bullet in the NHL. We can't just stumble upon a franchise QB for the Sabres. If the Bills were owned by an owner like Bisciotti I would likely have some more openness to moving on from McBeane. I think they are stable in the same way Tomlin is stable in Pittsburgh. Between both them and Allen, they collectively cover for what could be historically bad ownership. Sorry I wasn't clear. I was only talking about him selling the Sabres. -
Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
Mango replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
Sorry for the double tap. I believe that Terry wants to unload the Sabres and unload it to somebody who keeps in Buffalo because he wants to save face. But if the Bills were to ever win a championship the team would go to the highest bidder in short order. -
Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
Mango replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't necessarily disagree. But there have been rumors since early on that Terry has been a meddler in the team. I don't know exactly how involved he is or isn't at the moment. But I do know even the most recent rumors around senior leadership was that Briere required anti-meddling language in his contract and Terry refused. So while Terry may have taken a step back, Kevyn Adams is the yes man he put in place because he still holds to power over the team. -
Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
Mango replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
Mr. Pegula, Thank you for staying the fork away from the Bills. The greatest Bills era in 30 years is directly because you stay the hell away from the team. Now please take 6 giant leaps back from the Sabres. Thanks! -
Beane & McDermott end of season press conferences
Mango replied to Process's topic in The Stadium Wall
We should. I don't think we will lose anybody on offense. The more I spend time with it the more I spend time with this roster after the season is wrapped, I think we devote a good portion of the draft to defense. I think we likely keep Diggs, we just have an immediate need at the outside, plus some depth. I expect a WR in the 1st and/or second. But after that I think we likely go hard at safety and pass rusher help in the top 3-4 rounds. After that it is likely depth at both OL and DL. -
Have any of you been in this situation before??(vague title)
Mango replied to BillsBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall
Right, I read that part. I also read the part about new-age feces in regards to a dude who was raised by a WW2 vet and the part about not condoning the idea of a kid picking his own team, sport, interests, etc. I am addressing what you said in totality. Not picking this sentence and ignoring that sentence. You bookended your response with two similar sentiments. The point of the hockey story is that that dad also thinks he is teaching his kid life the same life lessons, tough love, and anti-new-aged parenting whatever. But in reality he is just being a wiener. He is just too close to see it for himself. Ditto -
Beane & McDermott end of season press conferences
Mango replied to Process's topic in The Stadium Wall
Oh totally. I assumed that the single tweet posted with this quote was in response to all the Diggs talk after this game. I might have missed the mark on that one. If Diggs was in the pooper, or on the trade block, or being measured for a bronze statue outside the stadium, this is the response that would be given. -
Beane & McDermott end of season press conferences
Mango replied to Process's topic in The Stadium Wall
If Diggs woke up tomorrow and was about as talented as fat Kelvin Benjamin, Brandon Beane would still back his guy at his EOY presser. -
56 million watched Chiefs @ Bills - Most watched divisional game ever
Mango replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
One thing that always irked me is that Pegula hasn't upgraded the field conditions since buying the team 10 years ago. It isn't just that we have turf, it is also that the turf at the Ralph forking sucks. It was installed in 2011 and was the 29th ranked field in the league in 2015. Absolutely brutal. We have Josh Allen, who has said "I prefer grass". McDermott has said the same thing. And in the 6-7 years they have been here Pegula hasn't made any attempt to upgrade it to grass or even a better synthetic surface. And on the flip side we have the Patriots. Brady said "I prefer grass" and Bob Kraft replaced it during the bye week. https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/29/nfl-stadium-turf-grass-rankings -
Have any of you been in this situation before??(vague title)
Mango replied to BillsBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't think it is new-age parenting at all. I heard a story the other day of a guy at a stick and puck with his kid. Maybe around 10-12 years old. Dad was riding him hard, yelling at him. Slashed his stick out of his hands a couple times. Eventually tossed his kids stick across the ice. Now sports are great, hockey is awesome, and learning to commit to your team and your craft is an important lesson to be learned. But it is also OK not to ride your kid under some thinly veiled moral superiority. Can these things not be taught to a kid who wants to play volleyball or mock trial? Can't a kid learn the benefits of fandom by rooting for a different team and a different sport? Or do we have to force kids to root for the Bills because....toughness or whatever? -
56 million watched Chiefs @ Bills - Most watched divisional game ever
Mango replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
The Bills still use those spinning brooms to clear the field in the snow. They were on the field in some of the pictures during clean up. They toss the rubber everywhere, and it needs to be regraded. My tinfoil hat says that even though the game was delayed the storm ultimately knocked out Bernard, Benford, and Spector due to field conditions. -
Have any of you been in this situation before??(vague title)
Mango replied to BillsBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall
The first thing I’d address is why it isn’t fun for him anymore. Is it his heartbreak/emotion? Is it your expectations/sadness? Is it the yelling at the TV? Solve this and you likely solve the fandom issue. I remember being a kid and reenacting plays with my dad in the living room. Or being very low single digits and my dad pointing out that Bruce Smith was tough he never wore a shirt no matter how could it was, and at halftime we ran around the snowy backyard in the snow in shorts and a t-shirt. The late 80’s and early 90’s had a lot of success and a lot of heartbreak. A lot like this era and Bills football. There’s ways to make the fandom fun even with the peaks and valleys. -
56 million watched Chiefs @ Bills - Most watched divisional game ever
Mango replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think the league wanted/needs the Bills to win this playoff matchup to keep the hype high otherwise it risks flaming out for the causal viewer. The Taylor Swift aspect changes something for the league. But in general they’ll want a back and forth at some point. -
Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread
Mango replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Now that a day or two has passed, can we talk about getting Jason Kelce his own permanent box going forward? (Assuming he retires) Is there a more famous Buffalo guy than him. Crushing beers, bowling ball shots, shirtless, helping little kids meet their hero’s. -
I’ve been wanting to take a step back from the cap ledge for a few seasons just to give us more flexibility. I disliked Diggs restructure after his schtick to end last season and OTA’s. I thought Von was a huge risk when we signed him and his restructure was bonkers. Of course it made some room to sign other players. But every time we do this we need to make bigger decisions a year or two down the line. It’s certainly a cost v reward that is catching up to us.
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The other thing is we’ve had him say “heal up from the bumps and bruises then work on somethings”. But today he was all about getting right back to work when there are a lot of rumors swirling about an AC joint AND rotator cuff injury to his throwing shoulder. If we can protect him and get a nice rookie piece or two at WR, we could see a huge tear from Josh in 24.
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The only way Allen is done in Buffalo is if his arm gives out on him a la Kelly. Granted he has had a couple of injuries to his throwing arm pretty early in his career. But he is not asking for a trade because he hates McD and Co.
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This is precisely why I am pro going very conservative in 2024. Any major restructure to clear space is just destroying our cap efficiency. Outside of discontent it is my biggest reason for me advocating moving on from Diggs for the extra $3M pre June 2024 rather than 2025. My one quibble on this is moving on from Knox. It doesn't really provide any relief or any value. I think he could maybe be prime for an extension after 24/25 to lower his cap hit with a lesser value. Dawson will have to decide if he still wants to be apart of this for the future as a secondary TE option on passing downs or does he want to take more money to be a primary elsewhere. I think he stays. EDIT: Speak of the devil. I just found this from Knox after the game.
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I like Lamar the QB. What a talent. I am over KC, Mahomes, and Travis Swift.
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I think they can get through it this year and basically do whatever they want. But my thing is at what cost? I would rather reset it and move on from hefty vet salaries.
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I have been hard on Josh's post season, film, and decision making. But he seemed much different the back end of this year. One notable mention was that he directly said "I am anxious to get back into the lab and start working". Normally we hear "Gonna let the body heal" or "I will take some time to decompress from this" or "We will work on some things this offseason". But this was much more along the lines of "lets get back to work".