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Unacceptable answer? Are you serious? Smoke is clearly demonstrating leadership here in calling out rookies for being ready and well prepared. That IS just one way that he's helping them. This should be obvious to all but the jaded. Props to John Brown for showing how to lead as well...

Well hell... Because hey, you know it surely looks like rain. When the owners willingly call off first two, and now all of the preseason games, you know that's more than the sound of street cats... gettin' ready for some football.

Ha! Yes he did. Bob sang it like a man on fire. But Jerry knew... Don't let anybody tell you different. Cheers and Peace. Good Catch.

Jerry knows... "Hurts my ears to listen Burns my eyes to see Cut down a man in cold blood, Shannon Might as well be me We used to play for silver Now we play for life One's for sport and one's for blood At the point of a knife Now the die is shaken Now the die must fall There ain't a winner in the game You don't go home with all Not with all" Jack Straw cut his buddy down and so will completing this season. I just don't see it working out over the long haul of a season. The stakes are just too high, larger than $$, and as Jerry says... Nobody wins in that game. The players already sense this. Veterans are beginning to speak out. Rookies are silent. The owners fear it. Right now it feels a lot like everybody is just whistling in the dark, pretending that everything will work. How? I just don't see it working... I just don't get it right now. And that sucks, but sucking doesn't make it any less real.

"Talking Proud" era was my favorite Bills era, even more that the Super Bowl years. I think that is just a reflection of my age at the time (College Years) Chuck Knox had some FUN teams, even as "Ground Chuck". However... If I am not mistaken, "Talking Proud" was a civic campaign that the Bills adopted. That I believe began in 1980 when Joe Ferguson led us to first AFC East Crown ever behind #1 Defense.

My personal journey agrees 100%. It was surreal when it happened, but I experienced 1st heart attack at 51 after clean stress test 2 weeks prior. Angiogram at time of attack showed 95% blockage of LAD (widow maker, the same one that took Tim Russert). After that event scared the daylights out of me, promptly lost 50 pounds in 7 months, cholesterol and BP went from high to perfect... best shape of my life and then on successive weeks, chest pain on treadmill lead my doctor to order nuclear stress test which came back clean. One week later, same thing happened again on treadmill along with a bit of shortness of breath. This time we went for the gold standard, angiogram! Showed main coronary artery blockage at 90%. Triple bypass surgery on the spot. Only thing that spotted either blockage was angiogram. 8 years later, all still good but I never feel secure when my stress tests come back clean... Godspeed Nick! Work hard, you can recover fully. Daily baby aspirin and statins... Thumbs up to the good docs of South Buffalo Mercy Hospital! Forever grateful and humbled by the experience.

Oh hell yes! It isn't even a conversation. And if Butler didn't blow out a knee before he even reached his prime, this thread may have well have been about Butler. Without the injuries, he would have probably been a member of the Super Bowl teams as well. Lofton was drafted by Green Bay a year BEFORE Butler. I'll never forget his 10 catch, 4 TD 255 yard show against the Jets in 1980... as a rookie on a Chuck Knox (Ground Chuck) team. If you can find it, You Tube it for some quarantine entertainment. He was unstoppable, ran the smoothest routes and had the softest hands of all of them.

If you just put a little bleach in your eyes, it'll work out. The sight of it will just disappear one day...

Brilliant! Right on... What could go wrong with that? With a disease that is asymptomatic for up to 50% of contagious cases, this should be effective as all of the other BS talking points.

Victory over Tennessee didn't count? Maybe it just changed in the blink of an eye and the firing of a synapse...

Wasn't your original point that he was a holdout? Agreement in principal or signed deal... Neither equates to a lengthy hold out.

Bruce Smith was not a hold out as a draft choice. If memory serves, he signed with Buffalo prior to the draft. The choice was a fan debate between Bruce and Flutie. Bills chose Bruce because they could get him to sign before they invested the #1 overall pick on him.

How do you feel about your screen name? If I show you a picture of Greg Bell, will you feel happy or sad?

Sprained and broken! The man who owns the foot says it was broken. "We taped that ankle up as much as we could," said Ferguson in Legends of the Buffalo Bills . "But it really hurt. I just couldn't get going with it. When I got back home and had it examined a final time, it was discovered that the ankle had been sprained, torn, pulled and stretched. And there was a cracked bone in the back of my ankle to top it off." https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/7/9/2263975/buffalo-bills-joe-ferguson-1980-nfl-playoffs

I seem to remember it being reported in the aftermath of the SD playoff loss. It's all hazy now. If I am mistaken, blame it on some tainted bash from a 4th Dev floor party/exorcism. I was actually three floors down in Shay. When I think of 4th Shay, I can only think of a dude we just called Grateful Kevin! Good man!

I think I'd rather rank my children in a Facebook post than to attempt to triage 8/9/95 vs 12/8/80. Close, but I've gotta go Lennon. Why did you make me think of this.... You must be my long lost Bertha... Sorry kids, I am keeping the other list to myself.

Perfect!

No flames. A few tears perhaps, but no flames... "Imagine all the people, living life in peace"... For whatever your personal experience of John Lennon was, for whatever magic that was there that for some reason you were not experiencing, you missed something damn special. John Lennon changed the world, but not every individual in it. I honestly never viewed Lennon's death in the context of nixing a reunion and I don't know anyone that did. Sure, we may have observed that it would no longer be possible, but that was very far removed from what the moment was about, or what it meant. It was only ever about the tragic and violent loss of a legend, an icon, and a rare cultural world leader. Again, no flames, I always enjoy your posts. More power to you and your insights. This one simply dropped my jaw and reinforced John's own words: "Yeah we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun." - John Lennon (after he left The Beatles)

No. Not exactly. The Bills had just beat the Rams and danced on the field afterward in the fog (great memories... favorite Bills season ever), but they still had some good old fashioned Bills drama left. The lost the following weekend in New England and Ferguson broke his foot. Because it was 1980, he played through it and nobody really acknowledged that it was broken. The final week it was all or nothing in San Fran in the Candlestick mud against a young Joe Montana that was still learning how to be Joe Montana. There is a famous Van Miller call floating around on You Tube of the final play that goes something like "And so the season all comes down to this one final play." Montana heaved a Hail Mary into the end zone that was close, but batted away at the last moment by the Bills, finally giving them the AFC East crown. Interesting footnote to that season: every AFC playoff team, division winners and wild cards included, finished 11-5. If Montana completes that pass, Bills would have been out. It seemed like an unnecessarily close scare to the 6-10 49ers. The following year, Montana figured out who he was going to become and won his 1st Super Bowl. Super fun season in 1980. And it was also tragically memorable due to the event referenced by OP. I remember sitting in silence with friends in a dorm room at St. Bona in disbelief as Howard broke the news. I think I heard nothing but John Lennon music for the next month. RIP John! Still missed.

Complete agreement with this. Cribbs was an incredible back. I like Singletary a lot. Joe Cribbs was truly a special back. Give me Cribbs any day.

Are you effing serious right now? Did you just equate data collection and application methods used by astronomers and physicists to the recreational junk science known as Football Outsiders? Queue perspective any time you feel inspired for your next revelation. Data does not show anything. Data DOES inform our interpretation! You have yours. I find it depressing and self flagellating as a fan.

What was the DVOA of the 1990 Buffalo Bills vs that of the NY Giants? How about the 1991 Bills vs Redskins? How many rings do we really have?

War Is Peace Freedom Is Slavery Ignorance Is Strength 5-2 Is 3-4 1984 is 2-12 Then Came Bruce 2019 Is NOT 1984 Football Outsiders are Not Football

South Florida KNOWS we got the right Josh. All eyes here on Jimmy Butler and 2020 for a new fins QB.

This list, particularly at WR, has serious flaws. Frank Lewis was always the 2nd best receiver on his own team, behind Butler. Not even close... Where's Jerry? Evans over Bob Chandler? No! McKenzie, Braxton, Tony Greene, Hasslett (an absolute animal with knack for timely big plays) to name a few more belong here. Look, I get it. The Super Bowl era was great, but I'm pretty sure that the 70's and 80's happened. Having done those years... ummm... aggressively? I may only remember preciously little of them, except for those Bills teams and The Dead's first set at The Aud in the fall of '81. And I'm pretty sure those were real, approaching great things. I swear! So sorry, Nothin Shakin' on this street without Reggie, Jerry and Bobby.