Wayne Cubed

I do know you said "winning" but Jones was literally minutes away from winning in OT, does that mean because his team didn't win it's not necessary? I don't really think you can make that argument.

Not to pick nits but Julio Jones was 1st team all pro in 2016 and was on a Super Bowl losing team that lost in OT in the Super Bowl. In fact last year both 1st team All Pro QBs didn't play in the Super Bowl. The winning SB QB hasn't been a 1st team All Pro since 2016. I guess my point is, I'm not really sure that there's a point to be made there with regards to being 1st team All Pro. Plenty of 1st team All Pro WRs have played in the NFC/AFC Championship games, and have lost. Does that mean they aren't needed?

They needed to replace the guard position anyways. They still have holes along that line and protecting Darnold should be priority. It's nice he has weapons but Bell isn't going to fix that OL a whole lot.

But did he really get the most out of a bush league squad? He took an offense who finished 10th and 12th in the league and gutted it, which is now 30th in the league in scoring. This was the path McD CHOOSE to take. He hired the dinosaur Dennison to lead the offense. He's gone to Peterman TWICE to be the starting QB. His defenses have been better than Rex's but which players has he got to overachieve on that side of the ball? Lorax? He had one of his best seasons under Rex. Hughes? Again had one of his best seasons under Rex. Kyle? I mean, not much to say there. He's overhauled the secondary so there's not much to compare to. I think the defense plays hard for McD but he's a former DC, so I expect that. It's his forte. I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning if McD can get the offensive side of the team to gel because he has as of yet, done that.

Yea they really have some work to do on that OL in NY. They don't have a center at this point.

Lets not go sucking each others...

Yea I'm not buying that it's only the Jest in on Bell at this point.

CJ Mosley just isn't a modern sideline to sideline MLB. Great at stopping the run, can sort of cover but that's a good amount of money to stop the run.

Take the Free Agent oath... I will not overreact to initial numbers released for contracts. These aren't usually the actual numbers and are pumped up a bit to make the agent and the player look good.

Yea, Gore still has some juice in the tank and he's one of the best blocking RBs ever but I don't know, just seems like you could wait a bit on him. Maybe another RB shakes lose that you like.

I don't mind the signing, prefer him to Ivory just thought he's more a 2nd tier FA that you could sign in a week or 2. Just wait and see what shakes out from other teams first... and then go after Gore.

What does saving $2M do? They haven't even started spending. I kind of get it, he's one of the best if not the best pass blocking RB but this is a signing you do later in FA. I very much doubt people were banging down his door to sign him.

I mean, why?

So Allen shouldn't have any weapons because the Bills offense isn't ready? Huh? Radical concept, the Bills can improve the OL, get a TE AND trade for a elite WR. Giving Allen someone to throw to can only improve the chances that he succeeds.

Why have a tampering period... obviously tampering was already happening haha

I mean crazy that the Raiders could get this contract sorted out in 15 mins... ?

If we were going to trade for Julio it would be possible to swap picks, say 1st and 2nd, and throw in a later round pick and that would give the Falcons the value of a late round 1st round pick. Ultimately I think that's were Julio's worth is, a late round 1st. A player like OBJ or Evans, because of age, is more worth that number 9 pick AND they already have a contract in place. The Bills swap of picks with Pitt that was being reported would have equated to a late 1st round pick at any rate.

I mean, of course he's going to say that, he doesn't want to look bad or make his client look bad.

I just don't think the Falcons are ready to pay what Julio wants, he's already sat out last season and he's the 9th highest paid WR. Not with Ryan on the books with a huge contract as well. With the Bills cap situation they should be overpaying for players, they need to. What Brown has just done has raised the price tag for Julio for the Falcons. If they could get another 1st and improve that team, it wouldn't be a ridiculous thing to do as much as Falcon fans would hate it. He's nearly through his prime and WR isn't a cornerstone of a franchise.

Exactly, this is the time to over spend. Like the Rams are doing. Like the Bears are doing. You load up and make runs while you've got a cheap QB.

I think Atlanta makes this trade because they just drafted Ridley, who has looked pretty good. Also they realize Ryan has only a few years left and they need to reload. Draft picks would help that. I mean look what Oakland did.... Cooper, a 3rd and a 5th for Brown and a 1st. Not bad for Oakland and they would have ended up paying Cooper just about what they are going to pay Brown. I'm not sure why some fans think this will "wreck" the salary cap. They have a QB on the cheap for 4 more years. The biggest salary on the books is Star. They have to spend the money, just drafting players won't do that.

Same, and he’s a year younger. Not that that’s massive but it is part of the equation. I don’t think they’d have any problem taking on a contract of OBJ or Evans size either. They know they have Josh on the cheap for 4 more years this is when you can splurge, look at the Rams.

Yea definitely. This shows me they know what they need to do. And they were willing to give up the most for Brown, it appears. Sticking point seemed to be the salary.

I’ve said previously the only way the Bills are getting a proven “#1” receiver is via a trade. To me that means you have to inquire about: Brown(they did) Jones OBJ Evans OBJ and Evans would obviously cost more but those teams are rebuilding and a WR is not the cornerstone of your franchise. I mean look what Oakland just pulled off. Swapped Cooper, a 3rd and 5th for Brown and a 1st.

TB moving on from Evans isn’t that far fetched. They are in a bad way cap wise and will have to cut some players anyways and they only have 6 draft picks this year. A lot of work to be done there in TB, couldn’t hurt to inquire what it would take.