dayman

yeah, you said it

I stand by Whaley 100% if that is what this topic is about. Sammy is always hurt, couldn't have predicted that coming out of college. EJ is a disaterous bust that caused me to question my Bill fandom...but the nightmare is almost certainly over after today (even if we have to wait until next preseason to fully realize the end). Also, I'm not sure how much to put on Whaley regarding the EJ pick (although it seems he's the Cassel-trade guy for sure...which is not good). With that said, the roster has gotten better every year for the last few years and is currently the best it has been in a while (notwithstanding the unbelievably ****ty play as of late). We're trending upwards. Rex seems to really be !@#$ing up the defense, but with the season in the tank at this point might as well give him a year to see if he can mesh with the talent and look forward to returning to defense glory next year with renewed offensive health and no EJ.

Today will likely be remembered as the worst day of this season. I watched every minute of it. I was dying (engaged) throughout most of the second half. If you can't be entertained watching your team, even when they lose, then you aught not be a fan. It makes no sense. Personally, as disgusted as I am at the team, I still don't understand how someone could say they truly don't want to watch. No matter how bad it gets.

EJ is a classic case of what coddling does to a player. Hopefully he's in shock, as the other guy said, b/c his career just ended. But there is a chance he is so out of it he doesn't even understand what happened.

We're 3-4. A lot of football left, but we probably have about 2 (maybe 3) losses to give for the entire rest of the season now if we want to compete for playoffs. We've got a much improved Dolphins team and the Pats again, and a good Jets team twice. Plus a Cowboys team that will be healed by the time we play them, as well as a slew of other games we could potentially drop. Best case scenario I can realistically forecast would be: W - Dolphins (use the bye as an excuse to do this) L - @Jets (best case scenario we split and win the home game) L - @Pats (can't beat them, never do) W - @Chiefs (fair to say we win) W - Texans (who really knows but this is best case scenario) W - @ Eagles (again, best case scenario here) W - @ 'Skins L - Cowboys (really don't think we're winning this one, at least not this one and the next one v. the jets) W - Jets That would put us at 9-7. I doubt we make the playoffs with that, and this was me being about as optimistic as possible. Rex lasted 7 games. This season is over.

Worked fantastic for me. Worked WAY better than streaming Sunday Ticket online. I wish everything was on Yahoo!

No quicker way to step away from a ledge than stepping off the ledge

Cut him

I don't know why we need to wait until the end of season. There is a bye to get another back up ready. We cannot have EJ touch teh football ever again.

I think we should just go ahead and cut his ass immediately after this game if he doesn't come back and win. Down 17 to the Jags w/ a half to go...win and you can continue to collect checks on bench...lose and career is over.

Can you double sticky a topic?

EJ is playing for his career tomorrow. The Jags defense isn't good. It'll be known, one way or another, if this cat is a #2 or done in Buffalo by noon tomorrow.

Injuries are an excuse for Greg Roman. The offense has been decimated. They do not excuse Rex Ryan. Not a problem this week. But when you are a part of the decision making circle and lose out on some decisions that later don't work....over time it has an effect.

What!? Harvin is way more dangerous and puts way more stress on defense than Hogan. I'm glad we have Hogan for exactly the situation we are in, and there is an argument about durability that can be made against Percy (especially in Macro terms considering the cumulative durability of Percy, Sammy, and Goodwin combines is terrible) but that doesn't mean Percy should be gone for Hogan. It mean Percy should be gone for someone better than Hogan who can stay healthy more. If we absolutely had to choose between Woods or Percy I would choose Woods (entirely b/c of durability)...but if it's Hogan v. Percy the choice is easy. TLDR: Hogan is not better than Percy Harvin.

Hopefully he's ready to play after the bye, but if not this dude should take his time. All concussions are not created equal, if you get a bad one, you really shouldn't be playing RB in the NFL (really for a year or so...maybe ever again if it is truly horrendous). Let this dude sit, we have other players.

Percy is fantastic to have on the team, but he is not a reliable fixture of the offense. Everyone knew this about him. It would be a non-issue if Sammy were healthy. Percy is supposed to be the icing...if you are looking for whole cake you can't really blame him. And as others have already said, it's ironic that he's the closest to being the whole cake out of anyone.

I'm not done with any of our players. I still believe we have a good roster, we're just crazy hurt and going through growing pains of a new coaching staff. Give it time, even for Percy. If we could flip a switch right now and have healthy options that were substantially similar, I would agree....but we can't.

Go Bills, hope we show on D big time and with a good gameplan on offense and roll 'em! They're just the freaking Jags, lets do this we are fighting to stay alive! With that said, given our current status and the fact that the Jags have demonstrated scoring capability, I will predict: Bill 13 Jags 20 Hope I'm wrong, but it could be rough morning.

5th or later I would do it...assuming we beat Jacksonville. Steve Smith has been amazing this year.

Who is with me!? Start the chant! "WIIIIIDDDDEE 999999. WIIIDDDDEEEE 99999."

Part of it is coaching, another part is (and it pains me to say this) our guys are overrated. Mario isn't done but he's past his prime, same is true with Kyle Williams. Jerry Hughes can have good games but isn't going to dominate every week like a prime-Mario (and he'll get us penalties). Dareus may be he only truly elite player we have at the moment on the supposed great D-line...and he can off weeks he's not superman. Of course, the biggest problem is coaching. But all in all, we may need to adjust the expectations for the defense. How many games can we play like this on defense before we accept that we won't hold people to 10 points every week? We get soem QB relief moving forward, so hopefully we look better. But we do not have a 1-3 defense that is going to carry us like we thought we would...it isn't there. Not who we are. Sad part is without that...we won't make the playoffs. Another 8 or 9 win season coming down the pipe.

My take: 1. It is officially time to light a fire under the coaching staff over the defense. It's a disaster. 2. Offense is just too banged up to win. Nothing really to be done about it, just sucks. 3. EJ played ok for a backup QB. He could continue to grow and be a decent back up but never a starter in this league. 4. Special teams is terrible. Worst unit on the team. 5. Obligatory penalty comment. Overall, we're just not doing the things it takes to win. The defense is not itself and it needs to be. Then special teams and penalties kill us, with no turnovers to compensate. Offense is just hopeless...IDK what to do w/ no players it is a sad situation. Hope to god we can win a sloppy one in London and get to the bye and heal up. Come out strong after the bye hopefully healthy and with some schedule relief.

Defense not being used as designed. Offense hurt.

Great players want the ball. And if he's looking at tape seeing himself open ... this is professional football. Everyone wants to get him the ball...he doesn't have to say this to make other people look bad the situation makes them look bad.

Agreed. I've criticized him for missing games and not being all-world when he plays (fair or not). I'm thrilled to see he feels the same. Working this out through his agent is a little questionable, but none of this bothers me. Sammy could turn into a malcontent for all I care...he would be justified. I say give this guy 15 touches, 10 isn't even enough! lol