dayman

We're a soft team. Need a new D coordinator and many different starters it's the only way to change.

We look helpless but dropping 60 is basically impossible for the Jets. No matter what they can't do it.

well played misdirection

Literally the shittiest .500 team in history. Worst team in the league easily. In all seriousness there is not a team we are better than.

I'm a supporter of CJ but honestly he seems afraid of being hit.

I second Sh*tpatrick

Tell me we shouldn't do this right now.

I'm saying run 12 plays a game like this. Not change the entire offense. And I agree it isn't the future of the NFL and I don't think Tebow will sustain his success but I would hardly knock this scheme based on last night KC in CT, Denver dominated our effort against that D.

But what I'm saying is not to run the wildcat. Literally run the Meyer Spread option. It's much more than the wildcat.

Ya and what I'm saying is Smith should start out wide and he can come in motion and bump CJ out wide to run those when we want. But what we REALLY could succeed with is basically the Urban Meyer scheme w/ FRED taking the snap and CJ as the pitchman. Smith in the slot coming in motion it's basically a tripple option. Fred can hand it right away to Smith who will run weakside or stretch it and then make a high/low read throwing it to stevie or david. If fred keeps it he runs the regular option w/ CJ as pitchman.

I'm not saying we go to this exclusively but hear me out. Fred takes the snap. Nobody reads the developments on the line better than him. He will stick his nose up there and get 4 yards if it's there every time. Teams would have to respect that. If it's not, pitch it to CJ. We drafted the kid in the 1st. He was explosive on college. He's looked very quick for us in flashes. Get the kid involved. I have a hard time believing he couldn't take a pitch like a champion. Then you have Brad Smith out wide. He comes in motion for the hand off the other way. He runs reverses well and could pull up at any point and throw a simple high/low route Stevie/Nelson run. Nobody stretches out the play behind the line better than him. At times he can just come in motion presnap and be the QB himself and CJ can move out wide. Fred, CJ, and Smith seem to me like they could make this work. Nelson did this in college he can operate out there under this scheme. Stevie will do whatever the hell we tell him to. Light a fire under the line get them moving downhill and throw some gimmicky stuff out there to keep us winning this year. Right now we are struggling. Anyone else think those 3 guys in particular are well suited for this sort of offense?

Light a fire under our Oline. Have Fred take direct snaps and run the option w/ CJ as the pitchman. Have Smith come in motion for reverses and passing plays w/ Nelson and Stevie running high low. Sometimes have Smith take the snap etc. That would be dangerous IMO. Don't do it exclusively but we need something. That could move the ball.

A lot of formations have come and gone.

Ponder will be busted out by 2016

Rodger has that unique ball flight and the wheels and the mind etc...the cold veins....the desire...they could easily be our forever overloards come the end of the season. BUT we've ween this before. Hell it would be ironic for the Pats D to get to average and beat them in the bowl

I'm sure he won't get anything ridiculous but we need to keep him. Who cares how much money he gets. Stop being so concerned about money. Keep the players that are good. Draft good ones instead of ones that don't develop. Keep them too. Repeat. It's the only way.

Well our D has been bad from day 1. Dareus isn't anything to rail against but he's not some all-world all the time impact guy. The fact that you say Moats, Shepp, and Batten aren't anybody to fear...that's a problem. Those are our guys. The guys we draft aren't really getting better. I know they're young but when you do get a lot of playing time by the end of your first you start to show more signs than we've seen if you end being an impact guy. As for the second year for last years class by the end of this year it would be surprising to see any gigantic change in momentum. Now I'm not saying no young guys we have are any good at all. But I am saying they aren't "good" and you turn from young to just crappy pretty quickly in this league. Not sure I agree on the Merriman deal but I would like to and Kyle Williams is a legit huge blow for us but you have to go w/ what you have. This is one of the biggest problems I have w/ the coaching staff. I don't believe there are some holes in our scheme itself I'm sure the guy knows football. And I can even understand if the playcalling has to be limited b/c we get our teeth kicked in if we try and do anything too fancy. But the ability to develop, coordinate, and motivate our mix of young and old is completely lacking. Our secondary is a joke. LBs don't really make too many big plays. Dline probably plays better than last year even w/ out Kyle but still gets pushed around. There is no pass rush. You get the point. I'm not trying to pile on. I'm really not trying to have a negative tone either. But reading it, it is negative. That's just the way it is IMO. Yes if everyone were healthy the D probably would play a little better but it would still have the problems listed above...guys don't develop/step up consistently. Talent. Coaching. A mix of those two. Whatever the reason there is no real indication of turning the corner on that side of the ball. I like to think a good draft, a new bill of health, a new coach, and maybe JUST MAYBE we get lucky and one or two existing players actually play better and we could start to stop people. I hope that's true but honestly looking at that list that is a lot of things we don't do well...draft...hire coaches...get lucky...stay healthy...etc... ...not to mention we need OL and WR help on offense too. All that said...we're better than last year for what that's worth. Maybe if we escape Miami and get at least normal on the Oline even if we lose to NY we can put together a run. That's saying a lot. It's enough to hold onto for now to avoid crashing on the team.

Ya we're a joke team. Had a gimmick offense to be honest. They figured it out. Fitz is very average and we're hurt. Bad WRs. Defense is worst it's been ever. Special teams a non-factor. Coaching sucks. Can't block. Can't get off a block. Can't catch. Can't throw. Can't tackle. Can't kick. Can't throw. Etc

Ya but even the Broncos aren't completely out of it yet. Any team at this point can be happy w/ the right focus...maybe there are 5 or so that can't but the point remains.

Dallas can be beat at home and we don't hold onto the ball long enough to get sacked anyway. Fitz hardly even looks.

But Fitz isn't a great scrambler and he can't throw it deep anyway.

You guys are funny about the ego thing. HE'S A SPORTS TALK GUY. They all have egos. You literally can't get up every day and go sit in front of a microphone assuming people want to hear what you have to say about sports unless you have a giant ego. They all do.

For the record guys I turned on Cowherd when I saw this thread...he actually is interviewing multiple people about this Sunday and the Bills are a game he keeps asking about. It's the guests that say we won't win. He actually picks us to upset Dallas this weekend. Also, regardless of what I think about Collin at a given moment his show is entertaining IMO. He's basically the Bill O'Rielly of sports and that is a good thing whether you realize it or not. He certainly does. Scott Van Pelt Show >>>>> all other sports talk btw

Well he's right but it's funny b/c I think most of us would have agreed even while we were overrated and said that we were average but winning. Cowherd on the other hand thought we were great earlier in the year. He was loving us. Now he doesn't like us.

Ya honestly I think we beat Dallas. So so team. They could easily beat us they are "one of those" teams where you don't know what you get until you show up. But...not great at stopping the run...lacking the two shut down guys Jets had...our D IMO is playing better than they were b4 the bye even w/ the Jets holding the ball. We should win. Go Bills! I'm over the loss but I'll not forget it. Back to the grind. We shouldn't have had all that national respect anyway. I like it better like this.