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Haha he did there's no denying that. As for my stance on gas Rob, IDK what to tell ya dude. It's just the way I see.

To me the idea that drilling as Gingrich wants to spike the global supply is the way to go is just wrong. Also leave it to him to promise $2.50 a gallon...ok Newt. We HAVE to move towards alternative fuels regardless. How we do it, when we do it...all open to debate. But the sooner and more aggressive we are about it the better off we'll be. Massive investment in oil or in other means? I'll take the later. I can see it's not popular here. As I've said over and over, I've seen strong personalities on both sides talk about how drilling domestically won't have the effects on our local gas prices that the proponents of drilling would have us believe. Ultimately disagreeing on something like that is reasonable though, it's difficult to forecast even for experts. I know Solyndra, believe me it's all anyone talks about. One company that went bankrupt. And yes, there are others. So be it. It happens. I'll not be asked to defend every bill labeled "Obama" that people on this board hate.

From everything I've heard/read on the subject that's a specious argument.

Well I just don't agree that they don't care gas prices are high. From a purely political standpoint I assure you they do. As for failing green companies...that's what happens as we all know. I'm not defending a huge amount of public money funding that research but that talking point is overblown. As for the last point on Obama failing to get an export tax that he "could have got" I really have no knowledge of that. You can elaborate if you want but I can't speak to that.

Condoms simply aren't a close equivalent IMO. My girlfriend gets so many benefits from her birth control besides us not having a baby we don't want right now. Her periods are regulated so she knows when she gets it (it's no longer quasi-mystery) and it's lighter. It helps cramps and pain. Generally it helps women control their body, the biology of which stacks the deck against them from the get go. If men had periods we wouldn't be saying things like "use a condom" and "don't have sex." Just my opinion but birth control is not simply one of many options. It is THE option.

If there's one thing that Bill O'Reilly has nailed on the head it's his talking points on gas prices. He puts it better than I will given the time I am willing to spend on this post (or probably am capable of) but the bottom line is it's a global market and even if we extract more oil domestically it's still private companies doing it and it still flows into the global market. It'll just end up in a big pot with the rest of the oil. China is willing to pay more than us per barrel, a private company that extracts it has no barriers to sending it over there and getting $5 a gallon. Hell, it's roughly $9 a gallon in Europe right now! So it's not like we're doing terrible. He did put forth an idea about crazy taxes if you send it out, which I'm not sure how practical it would be (and I know we wouldn't like it other nations did that). But the point is...the no presidential candidate can really do anything in the short term and in the long term it's not something that going to necessarily help us relative to world.

I mean, like I said it's fair enough you don't feel it should be included. To me, the idea coverage that leaves out birth control and other reproductive care is complete is BS. Did you know for instance medicare covers pedicures? Podiatrists are banking. Sort of anecdotal for me to say that but the point is IMO even assuming that we should begin to adopt a more minimalist approach to what is and isn't covered...I wouldn't start with birth control. I also believe it saves money ultimately. The people that need cheap birth control the most are the exact people who have kids that cost society far more than the pill. As for designer pills and any slippery slope argument about fertility...well...we can have that discussion but I'm not really against reasonable limits on how we approach managing reproductive care in terms of cost.

Ultimately I think people need to elect more moderate/reasonable politicians to the house/senate. That would require educated people who care about local politics outside of the presidential noise which I can't see happening anytime soon. Like I've said before...no American politician could possibly have a great term in the presidency right no IMO

That's a very complicated question. I don't have the answer. But the game of "this for that" and blocking everything you can and just competing for every little tread of momentum party wise is what I refer to. And Nancy Pelosi and many democrats are equally as guilty as the Tea Party champions so don't think I'm just throwing the far right under the bus.

Well as for your first paragraph you are ultimately not satisfied with the way Washington works. Neither am I. Either way, "we" adopted it. As for the second paragraph, you are entitled to your opinion I would never call it wrong. I would cover birth control (for what most people I talk to in real life consider obvious reasons).

Like it or not as a nation we have adopted healthcare reform. With such a change we have adopted standards. Some things are in, some things are out. Women's reproductive healthcare is in, as it should be IMO. If you don't agree, chalk it up to one of many things we all pay for (in this case through premiums) that you don't want to pay for. There are a lot of those things I pay for I don't want to pay for. I don't call the people that money goes to entitled. As for the religious argument. I don't see pacifists across the nation getting refunds for the billions upon billions that pay for our wars.

Once upon a time people were living independently. Then to guard against clans of roaming pillagers they got together to form some sense of community contract...a social contract if you will to protect each other. As society gets more complicated people necessarily become more intertwined. The great debate is how you view that social contract (conservatives want it as loose as possible generally and liberals wanting it tighter than that). This and all the issues that flow from this are legitimate political debate. Politics as it has become (certainly since Atwater changed it forever) it just spin and BS and it's all noise. That's the way I see it. "Entitlement" and things of that irk are just stalling progress and logical discussion that we need to strengthen our society.

Haha, it's fine to not like government if that's how you feel. That's a legit position IMO (to an extent). But degrading people is just typical Lee Atwater holdover mentality that has dominated the Repubs party since the late 80s.

When I see anyone from either party talk about high gas prices I automatically assume they are dumb thinking the president can control that. Also...unemployment and debt are a side effect of the greatest collapse and most complicated recovery ever. Unemployment and poverty would be worse if not exactly the same under a conservative leadership. The real issue is that nobody can keep promises or have a truly great presidency with Washington the way it is now. It's completely broken.

The whole "entitlement" push is so stupid. Just be real and admit you don't like government and leave it at that conservatives. No need to degrade people.

The only way they give in is if that pressure comes to a head and the internal working of Iran save the day. Otherwise, I believe Israel. They're strike, and they'll do it alone if they have to.

Well I recognize one other but not because of his play sadly. RIP Darrent Williams. Drive by victim.

God help whoever gets Matt Flynn.

Well here's to hoping he is.

2005 Draft 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR Miami (FL) ACC 2 56 Denver Broncos Darrent Williams CB Oklahoma State Big 12 2 57 New York Jets Justin Miller† CB Clemson ACC 2 58 Green Bay Packers Terrence Murphy WR Texas A&M Big 12 2 59 Atlanta Falcons Jonathan Babineaux DT Iowa Big Ten 2 60 Indianapolis Colts Kelvin Hayden CB Illinois Big Ten 2 61 San Diego Chargers Vincent Jackson† WR Northern Colorado Great West

Manning is an over the hill guy until he proves otherwise no?

Sources close to the team told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen Haha, eat that Shefter. Mort owns you now.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/02/28/what-is-the-rams-second-overall-pick-really-worth-not-nearly-as-much-as-the-rams-want/ Of course, the issue is what the pick might be worth. Andrew Brandt said, “Draft trade chart flawed with new CBA. Top picks are same quality player at half the price, lesser cost brings higher value.” The Rams front office now loves Andrew Brandt. The second sentence is true. The problem with that statement, though, is that the draft trade chart was already terminally flawed. It was never based on actual results and analysis. It’s real creator was Dallas minority owner Mike McCoy, and what he did was look at four years worth of draft day trades, then create a chart based on the trades that happened so Dallas would have a quick reference of perceived value. Thus, a circular argument was created, draft pick trades are worth what specific teams decided to do between 1987 to 1990, and since then has become a self-fulfilling cycle. CLEVELAND BROWNS (4th overall pick) Using Draft Value Chart, Rams would want: EVERY PICK IN THIS YEAR’S DRAFT PLUS 2013 2ND ROUND Using Career Value, Rams should get: THE 4TH OVERALL PICK (1st ROUND) AND THE 36TH OVERALL PICK (2nd ROUND) WASHINGTON REDSKINS (6th overall pick) Using Draft Value Chart, Rams would want: EVERY PICK IN THIS YEAR’S DRAFT PLUS 2013 1ST ROUND Using Career Value, Rams should get: THE 6TH OVERALL PICK (1st ROUND) THE 38TH OVERALL PICK (2nd ROUND), AND 6TH ROUND PICK MIAMI DOLPHINS (8th overall pick) Using Draft Value Chart, Rams would want: EVERY PICK IN THIS YEAR’S DRAFT PLUS 2013 1ST AND 2ND ROUND Using Career Value, Rams should get: THE 8TH OVERALL PICK (1st ROUND) THE 40TH OVERALL PICK (2nd ROUND), AND 4TH ROUND PICK [WITH ST. LOUIS GIVING UP ITS 7TH ROUND PICK ALSO] KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (11th overall pick) Using Draft Value Chart, Rams would want: EVERY PICK IN THIS YEAR’S DRAFT PLUS 2013 1ST AND 2ND ROUND PLUS 2014 1ST ROUND Using Career Value, Rams should get: THE 11TH OVERALL PICK (1st ROUND) AND THE 43RD OVERALL PICK (2nd ROUND) AND THE 75TH OVERALL PICK (3RD ROUND)

Man if we can't afford him who can? We can compete for him if we are serious about bringing in the best talent in the league. Whether he comes is a different story. But who am I kidding, we won't compete for him.

Even w/ Stevie we still have no good WRs corps. I mean remember the end of last season? God forbid if Stevie gets hurt. Sign this man now.