dayman

resign this man

lol Fitz outrushing entire Dolphins team at half

Fitz calls and points "mike 58, mike 58"...then throws right into mike 58 hands

y Donald there Fitz? why?

Dolphins are terrible

When we say run it Chan...we do not mean like that

Leodis "I want more money" McKelvin playing for an extension

He starting to get a little George Lucas look going

120 on the ground 45 through the air 2 tds Probably end up let down but I'm excited tonight...very exciting knowing Spiller will get all the touches.

As per that particular policy, I do not think you are correct. As to the basic line of thinking that noncompetitive taxes will drive business away, I do agree.

Honestly all kinds of different rice out there....find a few different ones to keep variety, cut up some mushrooms, onions, peppers, etc...and throw them on the pan with some different sauces....that basic approach a number of different ways is usually good. Not saying it's crazy expensive and I know Chef will kill me for bringing it up again but that is still more expensive than hamburger meat and frozen french fries.

Nobody is throwing money around while there's a mess that has yet to hit rock bottom either way. When people feel it is over and climbing and there is money to be made, an extra 5% isn't going to scare away the capital needed to bounce back every bit as strong as we are capable of. It's not as if I don't hear all points made and to some extent agree...all I'm saying is 23% =/= France and 23% when we're growing is fine for investors if that is what it comes down to. Europe is crazy, even China and India are sluggish as a result relative to what they expect...when we pick up we'll be a great place to invest whether it's 23 or 18. And that 5% by itself isn't going to stop of us from picking up when we're ready...the capital is there and waiting for the storm to clear when it does if there's an extra 5% skimmed off it'll be fine. Not the end of the world, is all I'm saying. Certainly not if it helps get the house in order and takes a bit of pressure off of the purchasing class spurring demand.

Going from 18 to 23 is far cry from what that guy aims to do. And when things get cranking again, everything settles down, people know what Obamacare will do to them (good or bad) and there is certainty in the tax code...if things pick up money will be willing and able to profit off it. Nobody is thinking 2013 is going to be gangbusters is all I'm saying either way. If we end up with a 5% increase in capital gains it's not going to permanently strip our nation of capital when a hypothetical 2014/2015 start making big gains.

No I get it, and it's not going to change until there's a deal...which there probably will not be until late January of next year (which can be made retroactive back to the 1st). Obviously investors, the market, etc...not going to pick up until after that point. The question is not so much where will we be on February 5th but more so do we have a deal that makes some of the budget insanity doable that also allows for a strong economy to take off in the next 1-2 years.

I'm wearing underwear from Walmart right now. It seems to be covering my balls well enough.

Seems like a bit of an over dramatic prediction. In any event, until some details on some new policy negotiations come out we are getting ahead of ourselves. Last I heard Boehner was insisting he can't sell it to the house unless it's done w/ our raising the rate, Obama saying his thing...so we'll have to wait and see.

ah...the old aids in the eggs trick eh? And also, 11c more a pizza is unacceptable. I'm done w/ papa

Chris Matthews always sounds like he just ran up a flight of stairs.

Well we'll just have to see what they settle on and how it goes. There's no question you can always argue for a lower rate, but in the end if they decide to raise it a bit as part of new revenue we'll just have to see how it goes. I still don't think that capital is the problem and if demand gets going again I don't see 5% uptick holding things back.

You'll have to go slow with me now I'm challenged...where do you get the 50% income off the table for reinvestment from? And I do think (for what it is worth) that if a lot of people on the left felt that capital was the primary problem they would be with you...

I still think all things considered, the budget problems, the recessions effect on the middle class, the election results...while certainly not being happy the people most effected would feel 22/23% isn't the end of the world. Once again, not that they wouldn't like it lower...but it's not going to crush investment...and I'm not sure but I do think it's half that for lower income investors. As for dividends at income levels idk about that...

I think a lot of Dems want the cap gains up to about 23 to put it around the middle effective rate if not slightly above before deductions...argument being it'll help revenue w/ out disrupting investment too much and would be more equitable.

If the argument is things adjust to new rates I don't disagree I just am not buying that people in mass will just say "eff it" and all the sudden there is no capital just b/c it goes from 18 to 23 or something like that...ideally you would like to have it at 0...but if part of the revenue recipe includes some acceptable increases in capital gains I doubt it will kill us...

That's worse case scenario for dividends...probably won't happen and in any event much lower for capital gains...