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Williams was/is our #2 before he got hurt. So I will not calm down. Williams is done. I don't want to see him out there again. McKelvin is a SOLID CB when compared to Williams.

Why does it take Williams getting hurt for us to see the switch. Why can't this team evaluate their own damn talent? Same w/ CJ splitting 50/50 w/ Fred. On and on... McKelvin is better. Period. Get it through your skull Wanny.

Anyone else think so?

80/20 carries. I'm sick of this nonsense. Spiller might be the most dangerous man in the league. This idiocy must end.

uh...we need Levitre brother

The bottom line....how long are we gong to ride Fitz? To actually be good and have a chance to WIN in the playoffs...the answer should be "no longer."

We lost b/c Fitz threw an INT in the area TJ was in with the game on the line while everybody else was playing great. /topic

General "betray-her?"

I would second this. B/c it wasn't just this thread...it was a summer of lunatic posts all 1000 words long about how stupid everybody was and how smart he was. About how he "looked at the data" and he "knows how to do that" and we should pat attention to him b/c it's clear somehow that the GOP angle on the polling is right. So we should pin it. Do it mods.It's not even partisan. Romney supporters on this board didn't go nuts in mass about things like "polls"...OC did. And it was hilarious.

Not the best source of info on any president but PBS has a series available for free called "The Presidents" you can stream about 3-4 hours on him and others.

Obama declared winner of Florida officially today. Silver 51/51

Personally if I could make good money doing manual labor I'd take it...of course one day I would get old.

.....Ms Petraeus.... ...Ms. Journalist...

The electorate is the same old idiot America it's always been. I would caution the GOP against shifting from bashing Obama to now bashing the American electorate.

Debt ceiling debate must be figured out later (per his presser this morning). Can Boehner control his conference? Since Obama won and Dems kept the Senate the only fight left in the house is to try and use that along with some Senate maneuvering to attach rider amendments to "must do bills" such as appropriations and debt ceiling deals which would defund or kill certain potions of the ACA. Thus forcing Obama to sign or not sign things crucial to running the county. Ultimately this showdown would come down to who the public blamed and what they understood. So my question. Are we done with this battle? Or will it continue?

Stimulus worked as was predicted for short term stability and set groundwork for good things he ran on. But that isn't the point. In any event, the Stimulus was created in about a month and half. So, go figure. As for money, GOP had a $715B stimulus of their own so lets not pretend this is about money. In any event, all I'm saying...there are hacks and there are data wizards. At least this round we know who is who.

Haha, data mine the nation to manipulate the economy? You guys would freak and claim Obama has made himself overlord. Imagine though Fox reports on the latest Rasmussen sample of 1000 likely voters in various swing states and then Dick Morris goes on to talk about the turnout being way down (causing OC to get hard and write a novel on PPP complete w/ so many emoticons he nearly crashes the system) while in Chicago they're looking at a sample of 29,000 in the last month alone in Ohio. I don't care to knock Romney when he's down but he's supposed to be Mr. CEO, manager extraordinaire, and he isn't writing consession speeches b/c he is totally thinking he's going win? Like I said even outside people were saying it could be huge Obama win (Silver). Romney is supposed to know how to get good people around him, get accurate info to make great decisions...and he may have basically mismanaged a $1B enterprise.

Would be chastising it along with you if I get reason to believe it's true. Reports show Patraeus was not compromised just place himself in a bad position at one point and by the investigation he was monitored and seen to be basically just having an affair. Guy on CNN reported when Obama got the resignation last night he didn't want to accept it and it took a while before he finally did. If he was actually a security threat that wouldn't be the case. Patraeus is by all accounts a good general/director and while made mistakes and got investigated was not actually security risk. Just my opinion. I know you will feel differently. Which is fine.

Also contrast this to the Romney campaign. Romney apparently lived in the GOP bubble and thought he was winning...he couldn't even know what Nate Silver knew from the outside. Obama's squad knew they were likely good AND knew how to make it that way.

Jesus Patraeus use your brain...you are not young or good looking also lol 3rd uses bing

http://www.cnn.com/2...team/index.html

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Breaking News FBI investigating Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell for improperly trying to access his email, officials tell@NBCNews

CNN just reported there was an "FBI probe" into the affair for some period of time lol...jesus http://www.newsmax.c...11/09/id/463573 Ronald Kessler reporting from Washington, D.C. — The resignation of David H. Petraeus as CIA director followed an FBI investigation of many months, raising the question of why he was not forced out until after the election. In his letter of resignation, Petraeus cited an extra-marital affair he had been having. “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair,” Petraeus said in his letter to President Obama. “Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.” Petraeus, who had a distinguished military career, revealed no additional details. However, an FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption. Petraeus was commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan from July 4, 2010 until July 18, 2011. The investigation began last spring, but the FBI then pored over his emails when he was stationed in Afghanistan. The woman who was having an affair with Petraeus is a journalist who had been writing about him. Given his top secret clearance and the fact that Petraeus is married, the FBI continued to investigate and intercept Petraeus’ email exchanges with the woman. The emails include sexually explicit references to such items as sex under a desk. Such a relationship is a breach of top secret security requirements and could have compromised Petraeus. At some point after Petraeus was sworn in as CIA director on Sept. 6, 2011, the woman broke up with him. However, Petraeus continued to pursue her, sending her thousands of emails over the last several months, raising even more questions about his judgment. Neither Petraeus nor the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs had any immediate comment. FBI agents on the case expected that Petraeus would be asked to resign immediately rather than risk the possibility that he could be blackmailed to give intelligence secrets to foreign intelligence agencies or criminals. In addition, his pursuit of the woman could have distracted him as the CIA was giving Congress reports on the attack on the Benghazi consulate on Sept. 11. The CIA ‘s reporting to Congress included a claim that protests over a YouTube video played a role in the attacks, thus allowing Obama to initially discount the possibility that the U.S. had suffered another terrorist attack just before the election. In contrast, based on real time video and reports, the State Department was reporting that the attack that led to the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, was terrorist-related. The State Department reported that there were no protests at the consulate. Still, the FBI, Justice Department, and the White House held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election. FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged. “The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.” Michael Kortan, the FBI’s assistant director for public affairs, said he had no comment.

I voted yes just to add a yes. Seriously though, I mean I would find it ridiculous and that the terrorists won and we went too far, but if it was mandatory and I had to fly...wtf else would I do besides bend over?